• Hey Guest,

    We wanted to share a quick update with the community.

    Our public expense ledger is now live, allowing anyone to see how donations are used to support the ongoing operation of the site.

    👉 View the ledger here

    Over the past year, increased regulatory pressure in multiple regions like UK OFCOM and Australia's eSafety has led to higher operational costs, including infrastructure, security, and the need to work with more specialized service providers to keep the site online and stable.

    If you value the community and would like to help support its continued operation, donations are greatly appreciated. If you wish to donate via Bank Transfer or other options, please open a ticket.

    Donate via cryptocurrency:

    Bitcoin (BTC):
    Ethereum (ETH):
    Monero (XMR):
J

Journeytoletgo

Broken and hated 7-14 years long overdue
May 14, 2018
1,608
I really need to CTB I can't keep dragging all this torturous existence out of mistakes socially with the guys I made mistakes with. That said do you think the universe is cyclic meaning again we will morph into being?
 
  • Like
  • Love
  • Hugs
Reactions: come to dust, Rational man, natali4 and 6 others
T

ThePaleWhiteLight

Member
Mar 28, 2022
52
I do, but it may not be identically cyclical.

Consider a string of integers - 1739822781902. You might have an infinite string of integers but this exact sequence found in it only one time. But you may get arbitrarily close to it - 1739822781901(1)).

You might experience every possible branch of your life, not just this one.
 
  • Like
  • Love
Reactions: jakaranda3, Rational man, natali4 and 4 others
J

Journeytoletgo

Broken and hated 7-14 years long overdue
May 14, 2018
1,608
I do, but it may not be identically cyclical.

Consider a string of integers - 1739822781902. You might have an infinite string of integers but this exact sequence found in it only one time. But you may get arbitrarily close to it - 1739822781901(1)).

You might experience every possible branch of your life, not just this one.
So another chance?
 
  • Like
Reactions: Rational man
N

nooo2

Member
Jan 22, 2019
93
This is something that worries me, I wouldn't mind being in a new body but to have to live this life over and over again sounds like torture, but at the end of the day it's just a theory and there's so many other plausible theories, or the universe will just eventually die and there will be nothing left. Either way we'll never know so that makes me feel better.
 
  • Like
Reactions: come to dust, stygal, Rational man and 2 others
Chiisai

Chiisai

To infinity and beyond!
Sep 1, 2021
754
Everything is a possibility. Even "nothing". We will know once we're there. 😅
 
  • Like
Reactions: WonderingSoul, Rational man, jakaranda3 and 2 others
demuic

demuic

Life was a mistake
Sep 12, 2020
1,384
If it was you wouldn't know about it and so it doesn't matter. As if it was there would be no reason to think this is your first time around the block and no one outside of crackpots trying to sell you something and those manipulated by them can recall any past lives or experiences.

Why would it be the same "you" that exists right now experiencing something else? Even if there was an exact clone of you made of the same matter there would be no connection between you and that clone, and no experience of its experiences, because you are different physical beings.
 
  • Like
  • Hugs
Reactions: NoLightRemains, Rational man, markimobzzdeasui and 2 others
T

ThePaleWhiteLight

Member
Mar 28, 2022
52
If it was you wouldn't know about it and so it doesn't matter. As if it was there would be no reason to think this is your first time around the block and no one outside of crackpots trying to sell you something and those manipulated by them can recall any past lives or experiences.

Why would it be the same "you" that exists right now experiencing something else? Even if there was an exact clone of you made of the same matter there would be no connection between you and that clone, and no experience of its experiences, because you are different physical beings.

Eh. We aren't talking about a clone, A conspicuous thing wth its own continuity. We're talking about a universal cycle that includes everything in it. Yes, your experiences wouldn't be connected, but it seems likely your subjective continuity would be.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Rational man
demuic

demuic

Life was a mistake
Sep 12, 2020
1,384
Eh. We aren't talking about a clone, A conspicuous thing wth its own continuity. We're talking about a universal cycle that includes everything in it.
It's a comparison. Reread my first paragraph.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Rational man
T

ThePaleWhiteLight

Member
Mar 28, 2022
52
It's a comparison. Reread my first paragraph.

I get it. I just don't think it holds. A clone exists as an ontologically distinct entity. A cyclical universe is different. The effect is more likely to be anaesthesic from a first-person subjective experience.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Rational man
symphony

symphony

surving hour-by-hour
Mar 12, 2022
779
If it was you wouldn't know about it and so it doesn't matter. As if it was there would be no reason to think this is your first time around the block and no one outside of crackpots trying to sell you something and those manipulated by them can recall any past lives or experiences.

Why would it be the same "you" that exists right now experiencing something else? Even if there was an exact clone of you made of the same matter there would be no connection between you and that clone, and no experience of its experiences, because you are different physical beings.
This is mostly my view. Definitionally we can't know what comes next and there's no real reason to think it's more likely that (if there is a "next life") it'll be more positive or more negative. Thus there's no reason it should impact our decision making now.
 
  • Aww..
Reactions: Rational man
S

summers

Visionary
Nov 4, 2020
2,493
No science points to the universe being cyclic. But even if it were, you have quadrillions of years, if not more until you have to go through life again. Your rest periods would be plenty to get ready for another go round.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Rational man
its-about-time

its-about-time

nope
Mar 19, 2022
807
I don't know if I even believe in time, I don't think the future or the past exist on a timeline so much as they exist above and below us, I can tell you the future right now and it wouldn't matter one bit because everything is in motion. Like I used to see things that just morphed and morphed and morphed, one moment it was almost like a person the next it was animal the next it was a face mouthing silent words. How is time different? Why are we so obsessed with measuring something that doesn't exist? Why so anxious? I'd say this is all but a flash of light but even that lends to the idea of time. Whatever this is, I don't think it's real, any one bit. It's just all in your head. If you stop caring, it ceases to exist.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Rational man
Al Cappella

Al Cappella

Are we there yet?
Feb 2, 2022
888
No. Who we are now dies with us, as far as we know. But there is so much we don't know—we don't even yet know what consciousness is. I mean, everything in the universe is recycled, so can consciousness be recycled? I do think something happens after we croak, just don't know what.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Rational man
M

miserable_existance

I don't know
Dec 17, 2021
72
I really need to CTB I can't keep dragging all this torturous existence out of mistakes socially with the guys I made mistakes with. That said do you think the universe is cyclic meaning again we will morph into being?
i dont know , Karma theory makes sense to me , if everything was so random , the suffering goes unexplained . for some life is celebration for some life is misery . why
 
  • Like
Reactions: Rational man
FuneralCry

FuneralCry

Just wanting some peace
Sep 24, 2020
48,615
No, I just think that there is nothing after death. When we lose consciousness that is it for us, we are gone, we cease to exist. Death is freedom from all pain and suffering.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Rational man, LifeHasNoOptIn and houseofleaves
whatevs

whatevs

Mining for copium in the weirdest places.
Jan 15, 2022
2,911
It definitely is cyclic, and has no beginning, and no end. Basically we can't comprehend ultimate reality as it seems comprised of contradictory states and processes. For example, we can't imagine either an infinite Universe nor an Universe that has a limit.

The best you can do is extrapolate from living organisms how the Universe is, since apparently everything in here is a fractal or holographic reflection of a bigger thing.
 
  • Like
  • Informative
Reactions: Shu, jakaranda3, Élégie and 2 others
Mashedout

Mashedout

Student
Nov 25, 2020
126
If infinity is a real thing, then for certain we will be aware again, perhaps after an incomprehsible amount of time has passed.
 
  • Like
Reactions: jakaranda3, Journeytoletgo and Rational man
Rational man

Rational man

Enlightened
Oct 19, 2021
1,482
Its something beyond our control; not worth contemplating. I do believe in a cosmic cyclic evolution. I.came.from stardust and my carbon dust will be scattered into the soil where trees and plants will suck up my nutrients. But i will never be me again. Being ME is enough. I dont need to revisit my pain.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Élégie
EraseRewind

EraseRewind

Circling the drain
May 13, 2020
225
It's definitely something that has occupied my mind, the feeling of deja vu is far to prevalent in my life for me not to consider cyclic universe. I just hope I get the change to make improvements next time round.
 

Similar threads

BrokenByTheSystem
Replies
13
Views
838
Suicide Discussion
GrievingPhantom
GrievingPhantom
Freaknik
Replies
2
Views
295
Suicide Discussion
birdie7
birdie7
skiski_what
Replies
3
Views
230
Suicide Discussion
skiski_what
skiski_what
G
Replies
3
Views
299
Suicide Discussion
FuneralCry
FuneralCry
m3nhera
Replies
15
Views
691
Suicide Discussion
m3nhera
m3nhera