Still here. Have a question though.

[PanaxMan]

taw is a legend! I've looked at many of his post when I didn't have an account! Whenver I get an opportunity to message, would love to chat with you on the side panaxman!

Sure

I don't really understand why you think I just want attention. But anyway, I'm looking for a place where we can be anti-life, promortalist and pro-suicide without having to sugarcoat it in "suicide prevention" techniques. Also, I'm not forcing anyone to interact with me, you came here from your own will, you don't have to interact with my "horrible" and "terrific" views if you don't want to.

Exactly the point but others can also use that point from their point of view. And once again you don't have to use the recovery side. You can just stay on this side and post and vent as well about problems or methods etc

 

[Unworthyhuman]

I don't really understand why you think I just want attention. But anyway, I'm looking for a place where we can be anti-life, promortalist and pro-suicide without having to sugarcoat it in "suicide prevention" techniques. Also, I'm not forcing anyone to interact with me, you came here from your own will, you don't have to interact with my "horrible" and "terrific" views if you don't want to.

you don't have to sugar coat it, you just have to work around the guidelines. I don't think your views are horrible or terrific, those aren't my quotes. You just have to think about the thousands on this site and work within the guidelines.

 

[BlueMist96]

Hey, everyone, unfortunately I'm still here. I couldn't get on with the VSED. But I was reading another thread, and why are you guys trying to prohibit "encouraging suicide"? Isn't this the whole point of this website? to be a place where promortalists can exchange methods and information? Or is this becoming a pro-life website where we have to "save people from themselves". I'm really confused.

Suicide should be an entirely personal decision. The point of this website is not to encourage suicide, it is to provide a space to talk about suicide without judgement. Respecting someone's choice to end their life is not against the rules, but encouraging them is.

 

[PanaxMan]

Suicide should be an entirely personal decision. The point of this website is not to encourage suicide, it is to provide a space to talk about suicide without judgement. Respecting someone's choice to end their life is not against the rules, but encouraging them is.

Exactly and it does that pretty well and there's a lot of nuances do to a lot of free speech (besides slurs) here so it's refreshing

 

[antinatalismpromort]

Suicide should be an entirely personal decision. The point of this website is not to encourage suicide, it is to provide a space to talk about suicide without judgement. Respecting someone's choice to end their life is not against the rules, but encouraging them is.

again, it's kinda the same thing, but anyway. I guess this rule only exists to safeguard the site from authorities, because I doubt a pro-life person would actively come in here to seek "positive words to stay alive".

 

[BlueMist96]

like I said, they will find people willing to "stop them" everywhere. It's the status quo of this pro-life world. I guess I'm feeling kinda bad that even here, I'm still feeling like I'm in a therapy session.

Theres nothing wrong with telling someone if you think they are making a mistake. Suicide is the final decision anyone can make, it should be done with a clear mind and not on impulse.

 

[PanaxMan]

again, it's kinda the same thing, but anyway. I guess this rule only exists to safeguard the site from authorities, because I doubt a pro-life person would actively come in here to seek "positive words to stay alive".

Haven't seen much on this side of the forum and haven't seen much at all within this site but I'm sure they exist

 

[Unworthyhuman]

try a new thread with whatever it is you are looking for. just use caution with your wording!

 

[antinatalismpromort]

Haven't seen much on this side of the forum and haven't seen much at all within this site but I'm sure they exist

a sugarcoated advice for any pro-lifer that comes here would be to go to therapy if life means so much to them. But my actual opinion is I don't think any suicide is a mistake unlike BlueMist96, so if a pro-lifer comes here, I'm not gonna act like every other corner of the world acts about suicide.

try a new thread with whatever it is you are looking for. just use caution with your wording!

I'm enjoying the conversation. Can't see why you're trying to make me go elsewhere.

 

[PanaxMan]

a sugarcoated advice for any pro-lifer that comes here would be to go to therapy if life means so much to them. But my actual opinion is I don't think any suicide is a mistake unlike BlueMist96, so if a pro-lifer comes here, I'm not gonna act like every other corner of the world acts about suicide.

I'm enjoying the conversation. Can't see why you're trying to make me go elsewhere.

True

And once again for any bumbling idiot most people DO NOT CARE about your death meaning the 99 percent of people you pass on the street everyday

 

[antinatalismpromort]

True

And once again for any bumbling idiot most people DO NOT CARE about your death meaning the 99 percent of people you pass on the street everyday

well, are you sure? We've got millions of laws, institutions and therapies for you to us to stay alive against our will. People care TOO MUCH about other people choosing to die.

 

[antinatalismpromort]

also, I think I got reported since my last message is "waiting approval", I guess I became too encouraging of suicide.

 

[Unworthyhuman]

a sugarcoated advice for any pro-lifer that comes here would be to go to therapy if life means so much to them. But my actual opinion is I don't think any suicide is a mistake unlike BlueMist96, so if a pro-lifer comes here, I'm not gonna act like every other corner of the world acts about suicide.

I'm enjoying the conversation. Can't see why you're trying to make me go elsewhere.

just trying to figure out what you want help with. I tried vsed too, I couldn't take the pain. feel like I would have to be away from civilization to do it. I think we've answered your question you had. I recently chugged 10 bottles of visine, I puked, so I think I messed up by taking them all at once. think i'm going to try and drink 2 bottles every 2 hours. haven't been able to complete partial hanging, because of SI- can't jump in front of a train, thought about a bridge with traffic underneath but worry about being a vegetable. can't figure out the SN---wish there was an easy way out for all who choose...especially because our organs could be used for people that want to live. It's terrible to walk around this earth not wanting to live.

 

[antinatalismpromort]

just trying to figure out what you want help with. I tried vsed too, I couldn't take the pain. feel like I would have to be away from civilization to do it. I think we've answered your question you had. I recently chugged 10 bottles of visine, I puked, so I think I messed up by taking them all at once. think i'm going to try and drink 2 bottles every 2 hours. haven't been able to complete partial hanging, because of SI- can't jump in front of a train, thought about a bridge with traffic underneath but worry about being a vegetable. can't figure out the SN---wish there was an easy way out for all who choose...especially because our organs could be used for people that want to live. It's terrible to walk around this earth not wanting to live.

finally you're speaking my language. I hate being alive. And that's why I'm a promortalist. I know some people may hate life only because of their personal circumstances, but I hate life in general. I hate wars, even though I'm not in a war. I hate physical illnesses, even though I'm physically healthy. I hate wage slavery, even if I'm not working right now. And I'm totally on board for suicide. Unfortunately, in my last thread, when I announced I was trying vsed, a random person came here and was very rude and arrogant about me lacking "suicide knowledge".

 

[Unworthyhuman]

Just want you to see that the site is pro anyone who wants to be here! I hate it all too. We are caged in a prison and the wrong people are in control. I'm sorry someone was rude to you, it happens, it's part of life. Vsed is very difficult, it has so many side effects. once I got the headache, I had to drink water and eat. I feel like i'm pretty determined right now everytime I begin my attempts they progress. I had a gun one time and I couldn't pull the trigger, stupid me. I have a basement and a rope and I haven't tried, although I tried many years ago over a door and my set up broke. I took it as a sign as life would get better....it did for a bit and now it's worse than it ever has been. I have 10 bottles of visine now, going to get 10 more today and some booze. I don't know...this world is misery and if you don't have money, food in your belly, a roof over your head and people that care about you, it makes it hard to live...so trust, I get it. I hate life, I hate people and I hate life and I'd give all my organs freely to someone that wanted to live if that meant I could die

 

[PanaxMan]

finally you're speaking my language. I hate being alive. And that's why I'm a promortalist. I know some people may hate life only because of their personal circumstances, but I hate life in general. I hate wars, even though I'm not in a war. I hate physical illnesses, even though I'm physically healthy. I hate wage slavery, even if I'm not working right now. And I'm totally on board for suicide. Unfortunately, in my last thread, when I announced I was trying vsed, a random person came here and was very rude and arrogant about me lacking "suicide knowledge".

Oh I see. You hate the flaws of humanity. Pretty interesting as I do as well.

 

[DeathSweetDeath]

I think you're in the wrong place for no other reason than the fact that you have no interest in viable methods.

 

[PanaxMan]

I think you're in the wrong place for no other reason than the fact that you have no interest in viable methods.

Ain't wrong at all tbh

 

[PanaxMan]

well, are you sure? We've got millions of laws, institutions and therapies for you to us to stay alive against our will. People care TOO MUCH about other people choosing to die.

99 percent of people don't even know more then 100 people nor 1000 people. It's very likely they don't care. They might care if someone dies but not about the person and who they truly were