Is suicide weak or strong?

[Anon123]

I hear from professionals that it takes strength to stay alive and that I'm strong. But I dont view it that way for myself at all. I believe I'm weak for not fully going through with it yet despite previous attempts. I know I need to die but something is stopping me. I often trigger myself more to try and push myself over the edge but I'm still hear. I feel so weak and I wish I had the courage to do it. Does anyone else see it like this or relate at all?

 

[PNKPNDA]

Yes I see things this way! People say to me how strong I am for just living and getting by despite previous attempts but it does feel super embarrassing and weak that I haven't been successful in the past.
something is stopping me too and I think it's bcos I'm scared of failing again and having to deal with family etc after it not working again

 

[AutoTap]

In my opinion it is situational and has many factors

 

[mapletree]

Honestly who gives a shit just do what feels right to you. When you're dead you won't have the time to navel gaze over how weak or strong xyz was

 

[yive]

suicide is definitely a strong act, because we need to overcome the biological program imposed on us.
nonsense that this is supposedly «weakness» is based on false logic

 

[hoping to lose hope]

I think it depends on the individual and also a whole heap of personality traits but in general it is harder to kys then stay alive.
You would be amazed of how resilient you can be for no reason.

 

[Kat!]

The courage to live through life and brutally execute yourself are both equally strong expressions.

 

[Gnip]

So-called "professionals" are profiteering assholes and lying scum who only want you to stay alive so they can make money off you. Fuck them and their lies.

Overcoming fear of the unknown is what takes honest courage and strength. Choosing to suffer instead only makes us masochistic.

 

[hoping to lose hope]

So-called "professionals" are profiteering assholes and lying scum who only want you to stay alive so they can make money off you. Fuck them and their lies.

Overcoming fear of the unknown is what takes honest courage and strength. Choosing to suffer instead only makes us masochistic.

based and angry piled as always.

 

[signifying nothing]

I'm not sure we have a choice either way. Whether you see it as strong or weak to live or die is up to you in the end.

 

[Kat!]

So-called "professionals" are profiteering assholes and lying scum who only want you to stay alive so they can make money off you. Fuck them and their lies.

Overcoming fear of the unknown is what takes honest courage and strength. Choosing to suffer instead only makes us masochistic.

Of course they do, that's their job. Leeching money from desperate people.

 

[Arvinneedstodie]

My therapist tells me that I'm strong for staying alive. I tell her No, I'm still here because I'm weak. I was strong years ago when I tried to fix my hopeless life, I was strong when I attempted to end my life, but now I'm just plain stupid, cowardly, and lazy. So I'm still here because I am avoiding my problems and scared to face reality. Am I strong?

Strong means doing what you believe in, and doing it even if it means going against the strong current. What do you believe in?

 

[yive]

So-called "professionals" are profiteering assholes and lying scum who only want you to stay alive so they can make money off you. Fuck them and their lies.

Overcoming fear of the unknown is what takes honest courage and strength. Choosing to suffer instead only makes us masochistic.

absolutely

 

[VivaldiBR]

The courage to live through life and brutally execute yourself are both equally strong expressions.

That is it!

Funny these comments against therapists, when I have two friends who are therapists and have had depression and suicidal thoughts in the past. And they recovered precisely from therapy

 

[HelloHell]

I believe I'm weak for not fully going through with it yet despite previous attempts. I know I need to die but something is stopping me.

I feel exactly the same!
Imo both staying alive and ctb require incredible strength. Staying alive when all you want is to die means you're strong. Ctb when all your survival instinct going against you also means you're strong

 

[unlovible000]

It's neither, it's just a way to escape a hopeless and terrible situation.

 

[Meditation guide]

Weak or strong is not anything I ever think about. Can't relate to that. And btw, therapists can be very manipulative in how they talk to you.

Honestly who gives a shit just do what feels right to you. When you're dead you won't have the time to navel gaze over how weak or strong xyz was

this.

 

[NightmareTour]

I wouldn't say it's either. The decisions someone makes are unique to their situation. If you go on even though life is painful and difficult, that's strong. But if you've been fighting through the pain and found no other way out, and you choose to end it there, you don't stop being strong. It's a difficult decision and takes a lot of effort both emotionally and physically. I don't see strength as having anything to do with what you achieve, it's what you've endured.

 

[Pookie]

It takes a lot of balls to face death (the unknown) and kill yourself.

 

[W’ren]

In my opinion, it takes strength to choose and follow through with your decision.

Choosing to live, that would be hard for me- living the rest of my life in pain everyday, with mental illness, with limiting physical conditions- not being able to eat what i want when i want... That would take some crazy *ss balls. It's taken crazy strength to get this far- but i no longer have the strength for this battle. I am tired. I am weary...

Choosing to ctb, that's taken some crazy strength too. As every day passes, i live life more like a goodbye. I pull away from everyone irl, not that there are many- but i've disengaged from group, stopped talking in conversations. Overcoming SI will take strength. Practicing takes strength. Overcoming every minor SI attack i've had so far takes willpower...

I'm so stubborn.... lol!!
So i see choosing to get help + live as strong, and i see choosing to ctb as strong too.

 

[Death22]

Maybe you are too weak to live and too weak to take your own life? Weak through and through?

I firmly believe that it takes balls to kill yourself.
Depending on method of coarse.
Without justifying anyone I believe N is for girls in my opinion.

Why do people call suicidal people weak?
ANSWER: Because they are projecting their fears about death onto others.
Read up on projection.
It can be both subconscious or consciously.

 

[Lilium]

I think it is subjective whether it's strong or weak. but tbh it shouldn't matter what other's think, the decision is yours and yours alone other people's opinions won't change that.

 

[Gsz1982]

I think after a failed attempt it gets harder. I worry about failing again and ending up a vegatable. However, being a vegatable would mean I'm not aware of anything. The more I think about it and talk about it the more impossible it seems. I wish I'd been successful on my first attempt back in July. It's now become an impossible dream.

 

[Nymph]

I personally see myself as weak because I want to die. I don't want to fight through life and survive it, do jobs and have responsibilities. I want to escape life because I'm weak. That's why I want to ctb. Technically I've been fighting life for a while so I could be told I'm strong but I still don't have a will to stay here and continue, i still want to die so because of that I believe I'm weak.
And I think it's okay, I don't care that I'm weak. I'm okay with being weak. So what? Not everyone is a fighter and has a will to live. I'm weak and I'm going to ctb someday in the future and I don't care. I'm happy about ctbing

 

[darksideofthebright]

Personally, I don't think it's either, because what even is strong and weak? The way one defines strength and weakness can be completely from another, and so it's just the matter of subjective perceptions.

I normally like to think about it this way, we all start from the same point in life, which is 0, but then from the very first second into life, we all branch out in different directions. Some have more supports than others, and some have more challenges thrown their ways than others, which ultimately shape everyone as their individual selves.

Life is like a scale, especially when it comes to the moments of crisis and when it comes to suicides. It's about balancing between sufferings and the amount of resources we have to help cope with the sufferings. When someone is suicidal, it's because that scale is imbalanced, not because they are weak or strong. It's both about internal and external factors of a person that led to them wanting to ctb.

That's just how I see it. I get really irritated when someone calls me weak for having suicidal thoughts and tells me to "be stronger". Literally, f**k off.

 

[TheWhiskyTheLiar]

It depends on your reason for commiting suicide.

If you're doing it to hurt others and have negative impact? Weak.

If you're doing it over something meaningless? Weak.

Anything else? That person is genuinely suffering. It's not weak or strong. It's just something they're deciding to do because they don't want to suffer anymore.

We put dogs down when they're suffering without really discussing the ethics of ending their life all that much. The owner isn't weak or strong for either choice.

I see suicide the same way.

 

[Lilacmoon]

does it matter if it's weak or strong? who cares what anyone else thinks? if it's what I have to do to be free, it doesn't matter if suicide is a weak or a strong act.
it is simply a solution, at least for me.

 

[Sprite_Geist]

Neither. It is a personal choice - that is it.

 

[Sakura94]

Terrifying when SI hits...

 

[Gromit-CTB]

Death is the solution, life is the problem