Discussion If you could create your ideal life, would you choose to be born?

[Ricoshay]

Well, I'm assuming people on here are obviously unhappy of an aspect/aspects in their life. But, if you were able to choose the exact sequence of main events in your life as well as control every variable; meaning you are guaranteed a life with things such as great physucal attributes, have a great partner/great friends, tons of wealth, be of stable mental health and good physical health, have as minimal suffering as possible etc. Basically, be able to live in your own story. Of course, everyone has different things they value. So this is YOUR ideal life if you had to live on the planet as a human. Would you choose to be born or stick with non-existence? Personally, I'd still choose non-existence because I have quite a nihilistic view on life and just find it pointless in general. I still don't think some happy years are worth it because you're gonna lose everything when you eventually die anyway. Not to mention being born and living in itself still causes suffering in the world indirectly/directly, it's just part of the game.

 

[lpdsvm]

After all what had experienced, I'm sure just total nonexistence. I'll be a slave/peasant in any country.
I think I chose this stupid path in my previous state and now it regrets everything. I might have thought I would invent, lead, or inspire but instead thinking about how to CTB and greedily looking for more methods. Also kinda academics hehe.

 

[yearned]

i think i would choose to be born like i was in this life, but with the knowledge that i have now lol. so i could make better decisions. i always think about going back in time to fix mistakes. there are a bunch of times in my life where i had to decide between options and i think if i chose differently i would probably be happier now. never being born also sounds good, but i am lucky enough to have experienced/tasted what a good life could be like that i would like to try and give myself that.

 

[FuneralCry]

Only non-existence is ideal to me, more than anything I wish I was never burdened with this terrible, torturous existence of suffering all for the sake of it that I just always saw as a mistake with no limit as to how much one can be tortured, only non-existence could ever be positive for me no matter what.

To be conscious burdened with this existence is always so dreadful and torturous, I'll always see the existence of life as the most terrible, devastating tragedy that only ever causes all this harm and suffering torturing existing beings, there's just so much evil in existing, if it's up to me I'd choose to erase this existence, I just want it to be like I never suffered at all, humans should just never impose this existence as all they cause is all this pain and torture there was never a need for at all.

 

[Hystearical]

Sure. Since an ideal life is one in which I would not be suicidal so why not

 

[franos666]

Yeah. I don't think about ending my life because I hate living but because I am unhappy and feel a lot of mental pain so if I had an option to live perfect or atleast happy, normal live I would definitely choose it

 

[Mooncry]

 

[bl33dingboy]

Absolutely not- I wouldnt want to live ever again

 

[Dinozauria]

If I got to have a life where I had enough money to live however I want, I'd likely choose to be born

 

[memento-mori]

i think i would
there are details in my life that i wish i could change and sometimes i just wish i could have a different life

 

[Mrs. T-800]

I did a past life regression after I felt many things pulling me to the notion that I had indeed lived before. In that, I relived a lot of important moments from that life, I woke up sobbing. I miss it so much. I want to relive that life again. It was cut short when I died. But I was so happy, it was blissful, the circumstances of it were hard, but I was the happiest girl on earth then

 

[Shadows From Hell]

I'd rather never exist, but if I had a chance to choose how my life would have been, I would have wanted to be born in the mid 1800s during the cowboy days.

 

[E4syW3y0u7]

Of course, yes. If i could tailor it to make me the happiest and being able to experience to most out of life as i can i would for sure.

There is no reason not too, we all have expiration date, might aswell make the most of it, especially if it's custom made for you.

Thought i wouldn't want to be "self-aware" about it.

Everything that would put me on tracks from my perfect life should be "instinct" driven.

Otherwise that would prolly drive me insane

 

[pthnrdnojvsc]

i would never want to live for many reasons.

just one reason is that the worst pain outweighs the pleasurable fleeting meaningless garbage by a billion times. normies or even many here might say no. but look at the example below and you can see that the worst pain and the horrible things that can happen to any human or animal far outweigh any pleasurable meaningless garbage

imagine a giant bed sized sheet of scalding hot metal a giant griddle over fire. .

what is worth putting your hand on red hot stove and holding it there for 10 seconds. is a 30 minutes video or eating food worth that? lets say you are not hungry but a good tasting meal is placed in front of you. but to get that you have to place your hand on scalding hot metal for 10 seconds. assume you don't even get permanent damage just the pain. i wouldn't trade any pleasure addiction activity for even 1 second much less 3 seconds 10 seconds of that kind of pain .

is a 30 minutes video or 30 minutes meal worth 30 minutes of this constant pain every second holding your hand against red hot metal scalding hot ? people have no idea how bad this would be.

imagine a giant bed sized sheet of scalding hot metal a giant griddle over fire. .

what if to get that you had to lay down and place your whole bare skin of body against red hot metal for 10 seconds. the pain would be exponentially worse than just one hand. many more skin pain receptors would be screaming at the same time .

is a 30 minutes video or 30 minutes meal worth 30 minutes of this constant pain every second holding your whole skin against red hot metal scalding hot ? people have no idea how bad this would be.

what is worth 10 minutes or 10 hours of that constant pain? to me nothing is even worth 1 second of that level of pain.

what about days weeks months years of that constant pain every second not a seconds' relief?

It's the brain that is capable of creating such pain and torture and every animal or human with a brain can suffer this extreme torture at any day.

so to me why risk extreme torture for what some stupid social media , videos, eating food? all that garbage is fleeting and meaningless anyway .

and i hate the pleasure addictions the most because they kept me distracted from working on getting my suicide method decided and ready to go.

people forget how bad pain is .

also how fast time passes.

imo most people aren't even aware they are going to die and soon too cause how fast did the last 5 years pass by. they fear Death but do they act like they are going to die as we all will. in 130 years every human will be dead and obliterated forever , never to exist again. to me Death is good for me but i don't want to go through even 3 seconds of the worst pain much less hours of it or days weeks years.

i would never want to be a brain that can suffer unending constant unbearable pain. the brain is a torture chamber. imo the brain , consciousness, sentience ,life , existence is evil because these can cause such extreme suffering.

if i'm dead / don't exist i can suffer unbearable pain that's a trillion times worse than one can imagine but while alive i certainly can. so to me Eternal Non-existence is a trillion times better than being alive.

pain can get unbearable but one might not be able to move away from intolerable pain.

and they made every guaranteed painless suicide method a crime so that you can't move away from extreme torture. they made Nembutal , sarco suicide pod , me paying someone to shoot me in the head crimes and many more.

 

[Leidensgenosse]

Not in a place like this. It's fundamentally broken on a foundational level, even the laws of physics are working against you. As far as I'm concerned there are no material circumstances that would justify the trouble.

 

[in hell out soon]

Ship of Thesus. Am i still myself if I change basically everything about myself?

Because I think i would genuinely probably change everything about my life if I could. Maybe keep my eye color, it was cute. I guess.

So in lieu if changing everything and starting over, which I cannot do, then yes, nonexistence is perfectly fine with me.

 

[telekon]

my whole life i wanted to return to earth with the knowledge i have now, so i could make better decisions and socialize better etc. i'm at a stage now where i probably would never want to be a human again. i've lived it. i even loved it while it was good and i love my memories. but i'm over it... i don't know how to explain it. maybe i feel above it. i would like to become a god, or a king, or something like that. if by create my ideal life you mean i can control everybody with my mind and create things out of thin air, and enjoy epicurean pleasures beyond imagination then yes, i could handle existing. above all i need to live in a world without judgement, or just where people don't judge each other, or at the very least, a world where people could agree to disagree and let people live their lives how they wish without putting pressure on them to live another way. but i don't think this world could ever be that.

 

[Lapdog6795]

Non-existence is always better than existence. All the problems start with existence. Life is a snake that is always eating its tail.

 

[Pluto]

 

[SoTiredOfWakingUp]

But if i've been given the choice, i already exist in some form. I cannot 'contine' to not exist, because to make the choice, I must think, therefore i am (exist). It Is hard for me to wrap my head around this question.
Then again in my worldview, conciousness is basically a program for propagating a dna pattern. It exists to preserve its meatsuit and by extension itself. It Is difficult to imagine any kind of decision being made without an existing and functioning brain.
Supposing i was somehow a disembodied mind, with all the knowlege of this world that i have, i would choose annihilation.
If every negative aspect of existence could be removed, sure. I'd exist. But if i had to live in this reality, no thanks.

 

[Forever Sleep]

I'd probably still choose to not exist. How can there even be a harmonious world where every single person gets their own way? Let's take relationships. In my perfect world, I get to marry some gorgeous, kind man. Presumably, I'm gorgeous and kind too. Presumably, everyone is. What if they prefer my friend though? What if they're gay? Are they allowed to be gay or fancy someone else or, does everyone just need to bend to my will? But then- where is choice in all of this? Do I really want a world where everything is a slave to me? Maybe it would be fun for a holiday but, wouldn't that feel weird? Would it even feel genuine?

Wouldn't it be boring after a while too? If I get to set the level of challenge for myself? If nothing exterior tried me or surprised me even? If I could choose to see a rainbow whenever I wanted, would it be special anymore?

I suppose I just think we or at least- I am a very difficult being to satisfy. I don't really like it when things feel fake- if they are supposed to be real. Even playing games on sandbox mode is boring pretty quickly. I doubt I could set my own level of challenge and be satisfied for long.

Maybe a holiday in a world tailor made for me would be fun but, a whole life? Probably not. There again- presumably, we could die peacefully when we wanted in such a perfect world and have all those who remember us simply forget and move on, so- maybe it would be worth a shot. Non existence would seem simpler though.

I simply don't trust existence too. Seeing as our parents presumably thought existing would turn out ok for us, I wouldn't trust coming alive some place new- relying on all my wishes being respected. Definitely not without reading the small print anyway and, I'm still not sure I could be bothered.