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Utter_emptiness

Utter_emptiness

I hate myself
Dec 22, 2022
37
I want them to just allow me to kill myself. I don't understand how they're forcing me to stay in this life against my own will. It's ridiculous.
Do you think making them hate me and eventually disown me will make my suicide less painful for them?
 
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pedro3211

Student
Jun 10, 2026
129
I relate to not understanding why family wants you to live, I don't think making them disown you will make it any easier for them though.
 
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needtofindrightway

needtofindrightway
Jun 15, 2025
42
I'm asking myself the same questions. My parents are very old since they had me in their fifties (dad) / fourties (mom). My dad's in his seventies right now and I am definitely going to kill myself once he dies, if not earlier.

I have also wondered if making my parents hate me wouldn't make it easier for all of us. But how? I am already a loser, financial burden, neet, wasted potential and yet they say they love me. For them to hate me I would probably need to do something criminal, and that's against my ethics.
 
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whywere

Angelic
Jun 26, 2020
4,093
It is all over this site, as far as my "parents" NEVER EVER wanting me and the day after I turned 18, I was raised on a working dairy farm, they drove me to our local town and dropped me off on a street curb with NO money, food, shelter, job, NOTHING. Never heard from them again, 100% their choice.

When I was growing up, my two siblings always had presents under the Christmas tree and I always had one wrapped box. In the box was a note that I was feed and housed for the year and that was my Christmas present.

When they died, my younger sister got a hobby farm and cash, my older brother got 8 million (USD) and I got ZERO.

Sorry, but when I read about someone who would love it if their parents hated them, it REALLY hurts me, as folks do NOT, in general, have no idea what it is like to have a hollow hole in oneself knowing that a person was never wanted and was treated as a common criminal.

Neither of my siblings have ever had anything to do with me, as my "parents" had poisoned their minds, so ZERO family since I was born and I am 70 now.

I guess the old saying: "be careful what you wish for" might have some meaning in this thread.

Walter
 
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SASU-KE

How I get up when I hear the alarm ↑
Nov 26, 2025
1,130
I want them to just allow me to kill myself. I don't understand how they're forcing me to stay in this life against my own will. It's ridiculous.
Do you think making them hate me and eventually disown me will make my suicide less painful for them?

I'm asking myself the same questions. My parents are very old since they had me in their fifties (dad) / fourties (mom). My dad's in his seventies right now and I am definitely going to kill myself once he dies, if not earlier.

I have also wondered if making my parents hate me wouldn't make it easier for all of us. But how? I am already a loser, financial burden, neet, wasted potential and yet they say they love me. For them to hate me I would probably need to do something criminal, and that's against my ethics.
Please don't do that to your parents. If they love you, they're not bad parents. They don't deserve that. It will be a slow and painful process,it's really cruel.
 
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Bitter Almonds

Student
Jan 16, 2026
106
It is all over this site, as far as my "parents" NEVER EVER wanting me and the day after I turned 18, I was raised on a working dairy farm, they drove me to our local town and dropped me off on a street curb with NO money, food, shelter, job, NOTHING. Never heard from them again, 100% their choice.

When I was growing up, my two siblings always had presents under the Christmas tree and I always had one wrapped box. In the box was a note that I was feed and housed for the year and that was my Christmas present.

When they died, my younger sister got a hobby farm and cash, my older brother got 8 million (USD) and I got ZERO.

Sorry, but when I read about someone who would love it if their parents hated them, it REALLY hurts me, as folks do NOT, in general, have no idea what it is like to have a hollow hole in oneself knowing that a person was never wanted and was treated as a common criminal.

Neither of my siblings have ever had anything to do with me, as my "parents" had poisoned their minds, so ZERO family since I was born and I am 70 now.

I guess the old saying: "be careful what you wish for" might have some meaning in this thread.

Walter
I know i have no place to speak - I just discovered a whole branch of my family tree I didn't know. maybe enough time has passed that your siblings might be able to break free of your parent's conditioning and be willing to start a relationship, if that's what you want.
 
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CarbonBased

The Nothing
Jun 18, 2026
215
I think this would make them more upset. They might think that you acted the way you did because of a mental illness and they turned you down instead of helping you through it. They will likely blame themselves for what happened
 
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EndlessRage

Student
Aug 30, 2025
114
I want them to just allow me to kill myself. I don't understand how they're forcing me to stay in this life against my own will. It's ridiculous.
Do you think making them hate me and eventually disown me will make my suicide less painful for them?
You can't, they will never allow you to do something like that. It is up to you, your life is in your hands.
 
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v4r0

Member
May 14, 2026
17
I want them to just allow me to kill myself. I don't understand how they're forcing me to stay in this life against my own will. It's ridiculous.
Do you think making them hate me and eventually disown me will make my suicide less painful for them?
Do they have total knowledge of how you feel and where those feelings come from? I mean, uncomfortable as fuck I know, but if suicide looks like the option for you already and it looks like you care about how they feel so I'd say try to run through every option with them with honesty. I mean, you can always ctb later why not try all the shit you can think of. I just feel like the "lying " method will leave you disatisfied even if it seems " easier"
 
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Rick&Morty1

Member
Jun 4, 2026
36
I want them to just allow me to kill myself. I don't understand how they're forcing me to stay in this life against my own will. It's ridiculous.
Do you think making them hate me and eventually disown me will make my suicide less painful for them?
Why do you wanna kill yourself still hasn't your family accepted your atheism already?!
 
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DeathSweetDeath

Enlightened
Nov 12, 2025
1,502
What do you mean by allow? And how can they be forcing you to live? And why do they even know you want to CTB in the first place?
 
Utter_emptiness

Utter_emptiness

I hate myself
Dec 22, 2022
37
Do they have total knowledge of how you feel and where those feelings come from? I mean, uncomfortable as fuck I know, but if suicide looks like the option for you already and it looks like you care about how they feel so I'd say try to run through every option with them with honesty. I mean, you can always ctb later why not try all the shit you can think of. I just feel like the "lying " method will leave you disatisfied even if it seems " easier"
No, I don't like to be vulnerable with them each time I get suicidal. They'll likely say it's the fact that I am not religious that's making me feel this way and I'm so tired of hearing this. It's so ignorant.
Why do you wanna kill yourself still hasn't your family accepted your atheism already?!
No it's just that I'm lonely, there is no one, no help, no qualified psychologists in my area, no proper treatment for my adhd, how draining university is, and how I'm failing all my classes. this whole life is not for me tbh.
What do you mean by allow? And how can they be forcing you to live? And why do they even know you want to CTB in the first place?
ive begged my brother and mother before to just let me go. To let me commit suicide and for them to realize how that decision will free me and grant me so much inner peace.
 
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DeathSweetDeath

Enlightened
Nov 12, 2025
1,502
No, I don't like to be vulnerable with them each time I get suicidal. They'll likely say it's the fact that I am not religious that's making me feel this way and I'm so tired of hearing this. It's so ignorant.

No it's just that I'm lonely, there is no one, no help, no qualified psychologists in my area, no proper treatment for my adhd, how draining university is, and how I'm failing all my classes. this whole life is not for me tbh.

ive begged my brother and mother before to just let me go. To let me commit suicide and for them to realize how that decision will free me and grant me so much inner peace.
I actually think you should keep trying to make life better because of your age, but you're still not understanding my question. What do you meant exactly by "let" you?
 
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Utter_emptiness

I hate myself
Dec 22, 2022
37
I actually think you should keep trying to make life better because of your age, but you're still not understanding my question. What do you meant exactly by "let" you?
Give me permission. Say they understand why I would choose something like this and accept that this is my fate.
 
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DeathSweetDeath

Enlightened
Nov 12, 2025
1,502
Give me permission. Say they understand why I would choose something like this and accept that this is my fate.
This conversation is going around in circles. Why do you need their permission to do anything?
 
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Utter_emptiness

I hate myself
Dec 22, 2022
37
This conversation is going around in circles. Why do you need their permission to do anything?
You feel like the conversation is going in circles, don't engage, it's easy.

I need their permission because I don't want them to be surprised by my choice, and traumatize them that way, I only see them a few times during the year and I don't want them to get a unexpected call that would change their lives forever.
 
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bloodmoonhypothesis

Member
Jun 1, 2026
10
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You feel like the conversation is going in circles, don't engage, it's easy.

I need their permission because I don't want them to be surprised by my choice, and traumatize them that way, I only see them a few times during the year and I don't want them to get a unexpected call that would change their lives forever.
to be fair you have told them many times, its not going to be a surprise anymore. If they choose to be ignorant of it then its kind of on them. They cant blame you for making it a surprise anymore cuz u have done ur part
 
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DeathSweetDeath

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Nov 12, 2025
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to be fair you have told them many times, its not going to be a surprise anymore. If they choose to be ignorant of it then its kind of on them. They cant blame you for making it a surprise anymore cuz u have done ur part
Exactly this.
You feel like the conversation is going in circles, don't engage, it's easy.

I need their permission because I don't want them to be surprised by my choice, and traumatize them that way, I only see them a few times during the year and I don't want them to get a unexpected call that would change their lives forever.
They will never give you permission and you do not need it. They will be traumatized either way, but they won't be surprised. It will change their lives forever either way.

You can't keep blaming them for "not letting" you do something, because in reality, you're an adult. If you can't bring yourself to CTB, that's fine, but stop playing this charade with yourself. You are the only person who believes this false narrative. They aren't forcing you to live or preventing you from dying. You're blaming the wrong person. The person who won't let you CTB is you (which is completely fine), but it's time to get honest with yourself. I don't think you're ready to face the truth yet though. The only person you need permission from is yourself.
 
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Utter_emptiness

I hate myself
Dec 22, 2022
37
Exactly this.

They will never give you permission and you do not need it. They will be traumatized either way, but they won't be surprised. It will change their lives forever either way.

You can't keep blaming them for "not letting" you do something, because in reality, you're an adult. If you can't bring yourself to CTB, that's fine, but stop playing this charade with yourself. You are the only person who believes this false narrative. They aren't forcing you to live or preventing you from dying. You're blaming the wrong person. The person who won't let you CTB is you (which is completely fine), but it's time to get honest with yourself. I don't think you're ready to face the truth yet though. The only person you need permission from is yourself.
I think you're right. Maybe wanting my loved ones to give me permission to die is my way of avoiding the fact that I am not ready for some reason. Even though I have been feeling this way for many miserable years. Idk why I keep procrastinating my death, I can't stop thinking about the aftermath, finding a painless method, and making my death as easy as it can be for others.
 
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Rick&Morty1

Member
Jun 4, 2026
36
No, I don't like to be vulnerable with them each time I get suicidal. They'll likely say it's the fact that I am not religious that's making me feel this way and I'm so tired of hearing this. It's so ignorant.

No it's just that I'm lonely, there is no one, no help, no qualified psychologists in my area, no proper treatment for my adhd, how draining university is, and how I'm failing all my classes. this whole life is not for me tbh.

ive begged my brother and mother before to just let me go. To let me commit suicide and for them to realize how that decision will free me and grant me so much inner peace.
My condolences I'm really sorry that you live in tiaret but yeah every compatriot who ever felt stuck has said those exact same words 🥲
 
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v4r0

Member
May 14, 2026
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No, I don't like to be vulnerable with them each time I get suicidal. They'll likely say it's the fact that I am not religious that's making me feel this way and I'm so tired of hearing this. It's so ignorant.

No it's just that I'm lonely, there is no one, no help, no qualified psychologists in my area, no proper treatment for my adhd, how draining university is, and how I'm failing all my classes. this whole life is not for me tbh.

ive begged my brother and mother before to just let me go. To let me commit suicide and for them to realize how that decision will free me and grant me so much inner peace.
Yeah I guess if you're coming from a religious family they will give you that as the whole answer for how your life is worth sticking with even if it doesn't work for you, though it doesn't seem like it's in bad faith from what you've said so at least it seems like caring. And for the being lonely here there's a lot of people willing to hear you vent and stuff so maybe that helps you a bit, though maybe try to follow specific interests you have in person so you maybe meet real people that like what you like. The mental health resources part can be tough, but in here there's quite a bit I think and of course try to use all that may be available around you ( in my case I have access to some psychologists with my insurance and there's also college counselling that I have access to though I know that may be out of reach depending on the place). And of course the classes part it's gonna be shitty to perform at if you can't find any joy in life, don't drive yourself crazier focusing on that over finding how to make your existence at least sorta enjoyable at times. And try to give you some grace of course, life's tough as shit most times
 
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