Do you think people know how much they have pushed you to the point you don't want to live

[Freeme3820]

I learned in life that there are people who are litrually horrible and make your life hell just because they can and its enjoyable to them, I think it's a power and control thing and it genuinely makes them feel good to make you feel bad even though they litrually have no right to do that, do you think they honestly realize that they are pushing someone to suicide, not just feeling suicidal, they know that but I mean we're you are actually trying to kill your self because of the way they treat you. like it's a case of that person wants you to feel suicidal but dosent expect you to go through with it even though that's the only way of stopping it all for good?

 

[Nature_is_God]

I don't think most aggravating people understand the full extent of their actions. There may be actions that I do that may negatively affect people around, and don't even know it. However, there are people that are assholes on purpose, although, I don't think those people intend to push someone to the brink of suicide.

 

[falloutcarter13]

Tbh, no, I don't think most "normal" people understand the effects they have, and I don't think they'd care if they did. Part of the reason we're all here is because we can't *stop* caring. It makes us different and people feel it and it creates an invisible rift between people like us who are sensitive to everything, and the "normal" people who actually were able to buy into all of the selfish attitudes and beliefs that make them able to cope with life in this shithole. Or maybe I'm totally wrong lol.

 

[Freeme3820]

I'm kind of torn on if it's a case of this person just gets enjoyment out phychological torture to the point of making me feel suicidal or if it's a case of that's the ultimate goal. Honestly this person is arrogant as hell. I feel like my life is Owned by them even though it isent a partner, friend, family member or even someone I work with, it's weird as hell, I honestly wish I could explain the whole situation but I wouldent even know were to start. I just feel so trapped and I really shouldn'tbx

 

[so tired or manic]

the people i've known who fall under the abusive category are completely unaware they're doing it. i'm not denying there's people out there who know damn well, just what i've come across is acting like children. not thinking. an impulsive response to everything that may or may not wind up deadly

 

[Pryras]

Some people do and they don't care.
Its why you should never hurt yourself in attempt to gain empathy, because they don't care and you dying won't change that. A shock? Maybe, but you won't be in the forefront of their minds and they will continue as they do, without guilt or remorse. Spite is what kept me alive for a bit longer because I don't need any compassion from someone who doesn't matter to me.

 

[Emily123]

Yes . they know . i told the surgeon who botched my face in the last conversation that the surgery was very important for me and i will remain suicidal if i don't get the expected result from that surgery . he knew that he was not capable of that surgery but he fooled me just to get my money

 

[Worthless_nobody]

My ex knew...he was a sociopath who deliberately hurt me knowing I was suicidal. It's almost like he got sick satisfaction from all the abuse, lies, cheating and trauma he caused me...and he knew he was the one driving me to suicide. Maybe normal people don't understand or see it. And I don't think they do it intentionally but a sociopath does.

 

[Freeme3820]

I think sociopath is a great way to describe it tbh, I just find it so hard to process that people get so much joy out of pushing some one so much, the world's a shit place, well maybe not the word but more some of the people in the world x

 

[nerve]

No, not really.

My boyfriend will be at my wake talking about how I killed myself because my blood sugar was low or I didn't get enough sleep the night before.

 

[CoalmineCanary]

Covert and Overt Narcissists.

Dark Triad Personalities.

There are many youtube videos describing specific abusive methods of these types of people. It was like a mystery solved for me.





Hope this helps.

 

[OpheliasFlowers]

I agree with those that have said that most "normal" people don't even realize how much they hurt others by their insensitivity or callous behaviors, or by their actions. They are clueless and SIMPLY DO NOT CONSIDER how what they say or do might affect others. But then there *are* those (like some of my own family members, co-workers I've had, even "friends" or exes) who deliberately do and say hurtful things with the express purpose of making you feel bad about yourself; they do seem to get enjoyment out of pushing the precise buttons which cause the most emotional pain. And people that do that -- they are sick themselves. Anybody who gets enjoyment or sadistic pleasure out of knowing they're causing another human being emotional pain is a person in desperate need of psychological help themselves.

 

[Nemy]

Usually for me anyways, its often by my family. I have no energy to fight back so they take it as a free ticket to say the worst things. They do apologize but they're are so many that they all come out as insincere. And then all of that eats me up inside and on bad days you can already guess by why I'm here. So yeah hurting others seems like a way to make themselves feel better or "surperior" but that's at the expense of someone else state of mind. I just wish others were more understanding and careful of the words they choose especially when you know they can act as triggers.

 

[Deleted member 17949]

honestly no, because they aren't horrible people as far as anyone else is concerned. They are people that would probably be described as lovely by friends and family. 'Normal' people are capable of some horrible things, and I doubt anyone cares much about the impact they have on me.

 

[GoodPersonEffed]

My ex knew...he was a sociopath who deliberately hurt me knowing I was suicidal. It's almost like he got sick satisfaction from all the abuse, lies, cheating and trauma he caused me...and he knew he was the one driving me to suicide. Maybe normal people don't understand or see it. And I don't think they do it intentionally but a sociopath does.

I think sociopath is a great way to describe it tbh, I just find it so hard to process that people get so much joy out of pushing some one so much, the world's a shit place, well maybe not the word but more some of the people in the world x

I had a sociopathic boyfriend who was Latino, and there are many men in the culture who lie and cheat and intentionally drive women crazy and treat it as a game. This is not a racist statement, this is quite rampant in the culture. With this guy, his father cheated on and gaslighted his mother when he was young and he watched her go crazy, and when his parents divorced he moved in with his dad and ended up hating his mother and treating her like absolute shit. He learned from his dad how to play games with women, cheat on them, play sick mind games. He did it to me and several other girls in high school, would play us against each other, was subtly physically abusive, even kicked me out of the car once during an argument in the evening, left me in an industrial area. When we briefly got back together in my twenties, I didn't know he was living with a woman who he'd played against me in high school, and she called me and told me when he visited me he'd told her he was on a business trip, and that he'd gotten her pregnant and insisted she get an abortion, but he didn't show up for the appointment and the next month she found on the long distance bill he'd called me at that exact time. He used to gaslight me terribly when we were together in high school. He once bought a fake engagement ring and gave it to me, then immediately took it back and said he'd just wanted to know how I would react. For as long as I knew him, he used every manipulation tactic in the book. I think he would definitely get off on pushing a woman to suicide, he was all about the power trips. He wanted to become a cop, but last I heard he'd become a nurse, and I can only imagine how he must have gotten off on covertly abusing his patients, especially the females.

 

[V1990]

I tried to commit suicide a few months ago, I was in a coma and I almost died, my mom still treats me like shit, always telling me to die, saying she doesn't care... I'm already used to it and I plan on doing it again anyway, let's just hope I don't survive this time.

 

[Freeme3820]

Omg some of these are just awful, imagine going from being a sweet innocent baby and growing into someone who gets off on mentally torturing others, if heaven and hell were real I'd say this is hell, we're already there x

 

[Gamja]

There are people I opened up to and they believe I'm attention-seeking or playing victim.
That I'm free to do whatever I want with my life if I choose to end "in self-pity". In a way it's reassuring that people treat me like shit and think I'm lazy, crazy and unpleasant. One less reason to live.
Whatever it is, I'll follow the plan I crafted for the past few years after going through my check list.

 

[Freeme3820]

There are people I opened up to and they believe I'm attention-seeking or playing victim.
That I'm free to do whatever I want with my life if I choose to end "in self-pity". In a way it's reassuring that people treat me like shit and think I'm lazy, crazy and unpleasant. One less reason to live.
Whatever it is, I'll follow the plan I crafted for the past few years after going through my check list.

I often wonder when people say "why diddent they open up to someone" after someone commits suicide, if they did open up but the person got fobbed off :-(

 

[Tabbyql]

I have no doubt they do at some level the same as I have no doubt they don't give a f#$@. My bf if he doesn't have nefin better to do, will be at my wake saying how he tried to help me, he tried to talk to me, he did everything he cud. Then using it as a chance to preach of how "she shud of got a job that wud of cured her" My brother no doubt will take it as an opportunity to put me down, whillst enjoying people giving him attention. My dad won't care he will enjoy all the attention too. My dad and brother will make it a me!me!me! Show. I can't get rid of that feeling that if I just explained what they do to me, they wud realise and change their ways. It's so stupid.

 

[Fedrea]

I learned in life that there are people who are litrually horrible and make your life hell just because they can and its enjoyable to them, I think it's a power and control thing and it genuinely makes them feel good to make you feel bad even though they litrually have no right to do that, do you think they honestly realize that they are pushing someone to suicide, not just feeling suicidal, they know that but I mean we're you are actually trying to kill your self because of the way they treat you. like it's a case of that person wants you to feel suicidal but dosent expect you to go through with it even though that's the only way of stopping it all for good?

Every thing that has pushed me to ctb was caused directly or indirectly by people who abuse others. Yes there are people who like power and control over others and enjoy your suffering. It's a horrible realisation. A key realisation for me has been these people can smell weakness like sharks, so once you've been weakened by one such person you have to be careful not to fall prey to others.

There are also many, many very kind and good people in the world and it's important to remember that. Only thing I've learned is if you have an instinct that anyone around you is cruel or exploitative then take all steps you reasonably can to get away from that person.

 

[Freeme3820]

Every thing that has pushed me to ctb was caused directly or indirectly by people who abuse others. Yes there are people who like power and control over others and enjoy your suffering. It's a horrible realisation. A key realisation for me has been these people can smell weakness like sharks, so once you've been weakened by one such person you have to be careful not to fall prey to others. There are also many, many very kind and good people in the world

This is 100% the perfect description x

 

[Fedrea]

This is 100% the perfect description x

Hyenas more than sharks really. Blood is what sharks can smell, hyenas attack the weak!

I think a lot these people have either NPD or a degree of sociopathy, was writing about it a while back. I feel they are responsible for causing A LOT of MH issues.

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/attracting-narcissists-sociopaths.43003/page-2#post-819036

I think the ones with NPD often have a lot of insecurity and self esteem issues themselves, but instead of beating themselves up, they try to boost their sense of power and control by tormenting others. Pure sociopaths have few SE issues and will torment others simply out of sadism or to get ahead.