Venting A cautionary tale

[traingirl]

on antipsychotic you are emotionally numb and your whole perception of reality is altered, i already took these med and it turned me into an apathetic zombie, was horrific, maybe you should try to stop them and make your decision after ? even if it is difficult to stop, just taking the time to do it a your own rythm then considering suicide or not in a more logical and emotionally neutral state of being

How were you able to come off them?

 

[WeDontKnowTheFuture]

How were you able to come off them?

i didn't take them for long and i stopped cold turkey, wasn't difficult

 

[traingirl]

i didn't take them for long and i stopped cold turkey, wasn't difficult

Lucky for you. I've been on this awhile. I would end up in the psych ward if I did that.

 

[WeDontKnowTheFuture]

i didn't take them for long and i stopped cold turkey, wasn't difficult

but what fucked me up was antidepressants ( SSRI ). Took it for four years, becoming depressed because of them and i wasn't before to take them, then when i stopped them i started experimenting weird and unbearable sensation that are still there 3.5 years after the withdrawal and are the reason why i plan to kill myself.

Lucky for you. I've been on this awhile. I would end up in the psych ward if I did that.

why did they give you that ?

 

[traingirl]

but what fucked me up was antidepressants ( SSRI ). Took it for four years, becoming depressed because of them and i wasn't before to take them, then when i stopped them i started experimenting weird and unbearable sensation that are still there 3.5 years after the withdrawal and are the reason why i plan to kill myself.

So you understand why I would want to kill myself as well. I'm getting the unbearable sensations too.

 

[madameviolette]

but what fucked me up was antidepressants ( SSRI ). Took it for four years, becoming depressed because of them and i wasn't before to take them, then when i stopped them i started experimenting weird and unbearable sensation that are still there 3.5 years after the withdrawal and are the reason why i plan to kill myself.

why did they give you that ?

Akathisia ?

 

[idiotmother]

on antipsychotic you are emotionally numb and your whole perception of reality is altered, i already took these med and it turned me into an apathetic zombie, was horrific, maybe you should try to stop them and make your decision after ? even if it is difficult to stop, just taking the time to do it a your own rythm then considering suicide or not in a more logical and emotionally neutral state of being

Did you not read her post?? She said she's getting sick from even tapering it. You seriously need to back off , she's suffering horribly and you have no clue how it feels so stop acting so high and mighty. Maybe this isn't the right website for you to be on. Telling her to "be brave," is so ignorant when you've got no clue what serious withdrawal from these poisons feels like.

 

[Liebestod]

I'm on an antipsychotic and honestly I can't believe that is has no effect on me whatsoever. There's no differences in whether I take it or not. Not only for the antipsychotic but other medications I've taken as well. It's like I'm immune to any of it's intended effects or side effects.

 

[traingirl]

but what fucked me up was antidepressants ( SSRI ). Took it for four years, becoming depressed because of them and i wasn't before to take them, then when i stopped them i started experimenting weird and unbearable sensation that are still there 3.5 years after the withdrawal and are the reason why i plan to kill myself.

why did they give you that ?

They gave me it for insomnia. It's very common for doctors to do even though most health organizations advise against it.

 

[WeDontKnowTheFuture]

Did you not read her post?? She said she's getting sick from even tapering it. You seriously need to back off , she's suffering horribly and you have no clue how it feels so stop acting so high and mighty. Maybe this isn't the right website for you to be on. Telling her to "be brave," is so ignorant when you've got no clue what serious withdrawal from these poisons feels like.

getting sick from tapering it is perfectly normal. Just trying to help someone who could be able to live decently after a while. I'm not in a death cult that encourage suicide as soon as potentially temporary unbearable suffering present itself. tappering medication create terrible symptoms for sure but i do not see a reason to ctb for that as long as it is TEMPORARY. And i know what is withdrawal, at least from SSRI, had panick attack and other things like that, it's terrible but do not see the point of ctb when it is just a phase for your body to adapt, the symptoms are the manifestation of your body finding a new balance, not a demonic thing that justify to ctb.

 

[madameviolette]

I'm on an antipsychotic and honestly I can't believe that is has no effect on me whatsoever. There's no differences in whether I take it or not. Not only for the antipsychotic but other medications I've taken as well. It's like I'm immune to any of it's intended effects or side effects.

You're so lucky (or not if you really need it)

Might be the genes. There are people who get poly drugged and are fine while others take just a few pills and are screwed

 

[Liebestod]

You're so lucky (or not if you really need it)

Might be the genes. There are people who get poly drugged and are fine while others take just a few pills and are screwed

I was diagnosed with schizoaffective disorder which is a psychotic disorder so according to most medical literature I actually need it but I've been on five different medications and none have really effected me that much.

 

[madameviolette]

I was diagnosed with schizoaffective disorder which is a psychotic disorder so according to most medical literature I actually need it but I've been on five different medications and none have really effected me that much.

Have you tried SSRI, SNRI, or benzos ?

You get no reactions from them either ?

 

[mychois]

I've always been against medicine unless one has no other choice. Maybe try natural medicine before if any is know and available. But the usual drugs!? No! Even if they do work there are always side effects, the question is what and how strong are they. Besides, most mental problems should be healed with love and understanding not forcefully, like this.

Where can one get the "love and understanding" you mentioned?

Protracted withdrawals exist. And they can make your life a living hell for a long long time. Total insomnia for months. Anxiety for months. Intrusive thoughts for months. It's a perfectly good reason to ctb.

Have you tried non medication methods to ease the symptoms, such as meditation or aromatherapy?

 

[kitkat9234]

i didn't take them for long and i stopped cold turkey, wasn't difficult

Must be nice.

 

[Liebestod]

Have you tried SSRI, SNRI, or benzos ?

You get no reactions from them either ?

Tried a SSRI and didn't get a reaction but I never tried a benzo or a SNRI.

 

[madameviolette]

Where can one get the "love and understanding" you mentioned?

Have you tried non medication methods to ease the symptoms, such as meditation or aromatherapy?

I know it comes from good intentions. But people who never went through withdrawal or akathisia don't understand how meditation or natural things won't do anything in that case. That's how terrible it is

Tried a SSRI and didn't get a reaction but I never tried a benzo or a SNRI.

I mean if you can live without any medications then no need for other meds. Are you a high functioning schizoaffective ? Why did they want to medicate you ?

 

[Liebestod]

I mean if you can live without any medications then no need for other meds. Are you a high functioning schizoaffective ? Why did they want to medicate you ?

It was mainly my parents, they forced me into treatment. Then I got diagnosed with it along with other stuff. I guess I'm high functioning I don't really know though.

 

[stack-audio]

Seroquel is what made me worse. I'm not even on it for psychotic symptoms. They put me on it for sleep.

Hello, ok then please please go to your GP ask for a referral to a psyciatrist tell them what's happening and tell them you want to swap to 25mg quetiapine 1 tablet to be taken at night, I promise you, you will feel so much better you will definitely get better sleep and you will feel much calmer during the day without any side effects, you deserve to be on the correct medication for you're own quality of life, please let us know what happens, for now I would take yourself of your current meds if you cannot get to see shrink straight away, come off slowly though don't just stop, hopefully you will get to see someone without having to do that. I wish you all the best
For those of you that wish to stay away from big pharma and I don't blame you, I suggest you try kratom especially green it work wonders, just Google it as I'm not sure I'm allowed to post sites and I wouldn't want to get them in trouble, just look for something with bird in the name those guys I highly recommend. A couple of spoonfuls of that and you'll be grinning your head off as the plant works on your opium receptors, without the addiction part, people actually use this stuff to come of H, Benzos, and much harder drugs. Like the lab made opioids that have the USA and many other countries addicted. It's literally just a plant dried in the sun and powdered, then it is taken using the chug and swallow method, which does take a bit of getting used to plus depending which strain you get some of them can taste bitter at first.

 

[Bruce]

@traingirl Yeah, I'm not sure what I can add to this conversation that has not been said yet. People here are (or are trying to be) helpful.

You are in a bad situation, I can't imagine, I'm trying to but.. I can't. It feels incredibly overwhelming. I'm sorry for what you are going through. If you feel that you have to go.. But if at any time you feel that there might be any hope I think @WeDontKnowTheFuture has some good points. Maybe there could be a way to slowly decrease dosages? But.. I think you would need support to do that.

@mychois Yeah, if I knew I would probably not be here. This world is built on pain. : (

 

[traingirl]

@traingirl Yeah, I'm not sure what I can add to this conversation that has not been said yet. People here are (or are trying to be) helpful.

You are in a bad situation, I can't imagine, I'm trying to but.. I can't. It feels incredibly overwhelming. I'm sorry for what you are going through. If you feel that you have to go.. But if at any time you feel that there might be any hope I think @WeDontKnowTheFuture has some good points. Maybe there could be a way to slowly decrease dosages? But.. I think you would need support to do that.

@mychois Yeah, if I knew I would probably not be here. This world is built on pain. : (

I am trying to get better at liquid tapering and have found a way to take my dose without getting the muscle twitches or having a hard time falling asleep. I'm doing a bit better my anxiety is just high.

 

[Steve Vermont]

I was on Seroquel for a year and it ended up making more depressed. However, I did not have ANY of the withdrawal symptoms your are talking about. Also, I don't understand how you can do "liquid tapering" in one night. "Tapering" means reducing your dosage by tiny amounts under medical supervision over a long period of time.

After I got off of Seroquel, they put me on Esc and a low dose of clonazepam to deal with my anxieties. This has been 8 years now and I have noticed no side effects except a diminished libido. I have tapered down to nothing several times during the last five years, but my problems always come back, full force, and I go back on the drugs. My life is manageable with them. Without them, I'd be dead.

 

[traingirl]

I was on Seroquel for a year and it ended up making more depressed. However, I did not have ANY of the withdrawal symptoms your are talking about. Also, I don't understand how you can do "liquid tapering" in one night. "Tapering" means reducing your dosage by tiny amounts under medical supervision over a long period of time.

After I got off of Seroquel, they put me on Esc and a low dose of clonazepam to deal with my anxieties. This has been 8 years now and I have noticed no side effects except a diminished libido. I have tapered down to nothing several times during the last five years, but my problems always come back, full force, and I go back on the drugs. My life is manageable with them. Without them, I'd be dead.

I'm not doing it in one night. I'm doing it over an extended period of time. Dropping my dose by 10% using water every two weeks. I changed the way I make my liquid dose and stopped experiencing the symptoms but the body jerking and shocks are very real and withdrawal differs between everyone. Not one size fits all. Medication withdrawal is a very subjective experience.

 

[Steve Vermont]

"Not one size fits all".

But isn't that what your post says about medication?

 

[BullsDon'tFly]

Hi, first of all I'm sorry to hear you're suffering that much. In my experience antpsychotics didn't have such an impact on me, but I think I had the lowest dosage (5 mg aripiprazole) available.
I read that you're willing to live and that you want to stop suffering from these symptoms, and I really admire your strength. Have you considered changing your physician and searching for someone who's more willing to understand the impact of certain meds on you and find a more appropriate therapy?

 

[traingirl]

Hi, first of all I'm sorry to hear you're suffering that much. In my experience antpsychotics didn't have such an impact on me, but I think I had the lowest dosage (5 mg aripiprazole) available.
I read that you're willing to live and that you want to stop suffering from these symptoms, and I really admire your strength. Have you considered changing your physician and searching for someone who's more willing to understand the impact of certain meds on you and find a more appropriate therapy?

I did switch psychiatrists and I'm more happy with the one I have now. I'm learning how to taper on my own using a water and apple juice mixture to make smaller cuts that are less destabilizing to the nervous system. My opinion still stands that antipsychotics are pretty bad drugs most of the time but I'm learning how to water taper and getting better.

 

[BullsDon'tFly]

I did switch psychiatrists and I'm more happy with the one I have now. I'm learning how to taper on my own using a water and apple juice mixture to make smaller cuts that are less destabilizing to the nervous system. My opinion still stands that antipsychotics are pretty bad drugs most of the time but I'm learning how to water taper and getting better.

I hope you'll find a proper therapy and live your life fully, as it should be. Good luck.

 

[InevitableDeath]

Been through that fucking lottery. Most AD and AP meds are damaging in one way or another. For every success story there are ten failures. You have to conclude that the MH industry and big pharma are profit over people.

That being said, am currently thinking of getting back on them as they definitely make it easier to CTB.