Yew Seeds (Taxus baccata)

[PandaDespair]

I've ordered about 80 from an online retailer as there's no way for me to reliably identity them in nature. I'm physically healthy and in my early 40s. I weigh 80kg. If I crush or chew the seeds then eat will this me enough to finish me off? Obviously, I'd prefer to go as painlessly as possible. However, I'm prepared to tolerate as much pain as required to end it.

 

[Tackingintothewind]

Plants are very unreliable...

 

[PandaDespair]

Plants are very unreliable...

I know. However, I'm pretty certain I wouldn't be able to hang myself correctly. Furthermore, I'm aware of the ramifications of getting it wrong i.e. making my intolerable existence even worse. Perhaps even leaving me in a situation where I would be too incapacitated to try to end things ever again. I live in Europe so I lack easy access to firearms. My alternative to yew poisoning is jumping from height, probably from a motorway flyover near my workplace. A truly horrific way to go. Effectively forcing someone to become my murderer. Then some poor person has to clean up the terrible mess. Dying in such a violent way would also have a terrible impact on my family.

 

[Tackingintothewind]

Dying in anyway will impact your family. It's one of the reasons I'm still here. Most people with yew poisoning recover

Is the yew really poisonous to you? - PubMed

Taxus spp exposures result only rarely in significant morbidity. Consistent with published case reports, the most common symptoms were gastrointestinal. Decontamination had no impact on patient outcome.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

This study reported 0 deaths over a 10 year period

 

[PandaDespair]

Dying in anyway will impact your family. It's one of the reasons I'm still here. Most people with yew poisoning recover

Is the yew really poisonous to you? - PubMed

Taxus spp exposures result only rarely in significant morbidity. Consistent with published case reports, the most common symptoms were gastrointestinal. Decontamination had no impact on patient outcome.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

This study reported 0 deaths over a 10 year period

You're right. But the pain has been intolerable for months. I know the impact on my family will be terrible. But I need to end it. Having someone have to scrape me up will make the pain worse for them.

It's true that most people with yew poisoning recover. However, given the prevalence of yew trees, most cases are accidents. For example, the academic paper you kindly shared states "Children less than 12 years of age were involved in 96.4% (< 6 years 92.7%; 6-12 years, 3.7%) of the exposures". This seems to be consistent with accidental poisoning. Eating as many seeds as I plan to must dramatically reduce the probability of survival. Furthermore, I believe that yew poisoning can be hard to detect and therefore the number of fatal cases may be significantly underreported.

 

[Pau MP]

Plants are very unreliable...

Agreed. The only one...Death Cap. Ingesting just one is enough. But a painful death, several days of suffering for sure. Fatal renal and liver failure. Unless you get a liver transplant, you go to the other side.

 

[DetachedDreamer97]

I've ordered about 80 from an online retailer as there's no way for me to reliably identity them in nature. I'm physically healthy and in my early 40s. I weigh 80kg. If I crush or chew the seeds then eat will this me enough to finish me off? Obviously, I'd prefer to go as painlessly as possible. However, I'm prepared to tolerate as much pain as required to end it.

80 grams or 80 seeds?

And also, there's a way you're gonna have to do this to ensure it's peaceful and reliable.

 

[Wrennie]

Agreed. The only one...Death Cap. Ingesting just one is enough. But a painful death, several days of suffering for sure. Fatal renal and liver failure. Unless you get a liver transplant, you go to the other side.

Can it be bought online?

 

[DetachedDreamer97]

Agreed. The only one...Death Cap. Ingesting just one is enough. But a painful death, several days of suffering for sure. Fatal renal and liver failure. Unless you get a liver transplant, you go to the other side.

There is actually one more people don't know about, and it's relatively easy.

Pong pong seeds (provided it's become expensive nowadays). But one seed is enough to kill, though having more is recommended. How it kills you is by cardiac arrest.

You can either simply eat them, or if you want it to be efficient and have it absorb into your system quickly, make a tincture.

Don't forget to take scopolamine (kwells tablets/datura inoxia seeds) beforehand, lest you want to vomit and suffer other nasty GI symptoms.

 

[Tackingintothewind]

There is actually one more people don't know about, and it's relatively easy.

Pong pong seeds (provided it's become expensive nowadays). But one seed is enough to kill, though having more is recommended. How it kills you is by cardiac arrest.

You can either simply eat them, or if you want it to be efficient and have it absorb into your system quickly, make a tincture.

Don't forget to take scopolamine (kwells tablets/datura inoxia seeds) beforehand, lest you want to vomit and suffer other nasty GI symptoms.

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Pong pong seeds are easily treatable in the west today

 

[DetachedDreamer97]

Pong pong seeds are easily treatable in the west today

By treatable, you mean… detectable? Cause I know they can be treatable with Digifab.

 

[Tackingintothewind]

Yes easily detectable and treatable. I did some research before... will try to find

 

[DetachedDreamer97]

Yes easily detectable and treatable. I did some research before... will try to find

Oh hell no… I'm kinda glad I decided to upgrade. But that would've been my secondary option because of that one perk.

It'd probably be a big deal if one were to get caught, but you'd never know what the hell is gonna happen when you do… heck…

 

[Pau MP]

Can it be bought online?

Impossible. It´s a mushroom found in gardens, forests and in similar areas under pines, spruces, chestnuts, oaks, etc. Quite similar to edible mushrooms. Easy to find them in Europe, North America, etc. Nasty and painful symptoms though. The first symptoms occur 8/12 hours after consuming it. If you are admitted to the hospital and unless you report that you have consumed such specific mushroom, the toxins are already in your body (liver) but in such subtle way that there´s no way to detect that. You apparently make full recover and doing better but 48 or even 72h after the initial consumption both liver and kidneys start to fail and death occurs the following days. At this point, it's untreatable unless there´s a liver transplant. However, it's a very painful and awful process and might take you several days.

 

[Tackingintothewind]

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/thre...d-up-mixed-with-milkshake.84536/#post-1510574

80 seeds no way near enough

 

[DetachedDreamer97]

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/thre...d-up-mixed-with-milkshake.84536/#post-1510574

80 seeds no way near enough

I'm hoping he meant grams. Cause… yeah…

I fear people tend to use misinformation that keeps overexaggerating the toxicity without much critical thought.

 

[PandaDespair]

Thanks everyone for your answers. Given the effect of yew seeds on the heart, would combining the seeds with a box or two of Ritalin help things along?

 

[Lost Magic]

Thanks everyone for your answers. Given the effect of yew seeds on the heart, would combining the seeds with a box or two of Ritalin help things along?

Panda, can you not get access to Sodium Nitrite instead? Btw Pong Pong seed death is a very painful and miserable way to go. Not entirely sure about how peaceful a Yew seed poisoning would be like either.

Transgender woman dies after eating pong pong seeds from Thailand

Her mother is trying to understand how this happened.

www.dailydot.com

 

[Tackingintothewind]

I was wrong about pongpong seeds being detectable, but they do treat symptoms with the requisite antidote regardless of what the detect. Some people still die though. However paulstrong is right it really is a miserable way to go.

 

[PDAnnie2610]

There is actually one more people don't know about, and it's relatively easy.

Pong pong seeds (provided it's become expensive nowadays). But one seed is enough to kill, though having more is recommended. How it kills you is by cardiac arrest.

You can either simply eat them, or if you want it to be efficient and have it absorb into your system quickly, make a tincture.

Don't forget to take scopolamine (kwells tablets/datura inoxia seeds) beforehand, lest you want to vomit and suffer other nasty GI symptoms.

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Omg! I can get it free in my neighbourhood!

 

[DetachedDreamer97]

Omg! I can get it free in my neighbourhood!

Ah, lucky you! But remember… this isn't pleasant by itself, but I made a thread on how to mitigate that.

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/understanding-cardiac-glycosides-protocol-nyan.55593/

The most important thing you'll need would be scopolamine.

I was wrong about pongpong seeds being detectable, but they do treat symptoms with the requisite antidote regardless of what the detect. Some people still die though. However paulstrong is right it really is a miserable way to go.

What a relief! Guess I'll consider that to be my secondary option once I finish the yew.

I am aware about the antidote, but in order for them to be treated, there must be evidence that someone ate a pong pong seed, or the patient tells them.

I've managed to gather information about cardenolides from a dead girl from a now banned newsgroup (ASM), which there is a way to make it less agonizing.

Thanks everyone for your answers. Given the effect of yew seeds on the heart, would combining the seeds with a box or two of Ritalin help things along?

Beta blockers help. But don't be naive and consume just 80 seeds based on anecdotal news articles. The low end lethal dose for you would be 240 seeds, but for an attempt, you'll need at least 960, or… about 58 grams.

 

[PandaDespair]

Panda, can you not get access to Sodium Nitrite instead? Btw Pong Pong seed death is a very painful and miserable way to go. Not entirely sure about how peaceful a Yew seed poisoning would be like either.

Transgender woman dies after eating pong pong seeds from Thailand

Her mother is trying to understand how this happened.

www.dailydot.com

Thanks again for everyone's replies.

Paulstrong, I'm in the EU and it seems to be pretty hard to get hold of sodium nitrite. It appears that the authorities have curtailed access due to a number of recent suicides. It's a shame because it seems a good way to go.

I made the decision to CTB some months ago and my mind is very much made up. The only issue is selecting the best method for me personally. Yew poisoning seems my best option. There's plenty of spurious information out there about the toxicity of yew. From my further research, it's now clear that 80 seeds is nowhere near enough.

I'm aware that drinking a tincture would be preferable to eating the seeds. Sadly, I'll surely make a mess of the process. I'm just that kind of guy. However, even I can't get crushing and eating seeds wrong.

I've ordered some more seeds and I will have 1,000 in total. Unfortunately, I simply can't afford to buy more than this. I'm going to crush the seeds and then eat them. Would it be more effective if I eat the crushed seeds on an empty stomach? If I have a choice in the matter, I'd like to go out eating MacDonalds and drinking beer. If I do this after eating the seeds will it affect the outcome?

Finally, thanks to everyone on this site. It means so much to talk with people in the same position as me. The people I know in person wouldn't understand what it's like to have made the decision to CTB.

 

[DetachedDreamer97]

I'm aware that drinking a tincture would be preferable to eating the seeds. Sadly, I'll surely make a mess of the process. I'm just that kind of guy. However, even I can't get crushing and eating seeds wrong.

Don't sweat it. Not everyone can pull this off. And I think it's bound to be an even bigger challenge when it comes to seeds.

I've ordered some more seeds and I will have 1,000 in total. Unfortunately, I simply can't afford to buy more than this.

This is good enough.

I'm going to crush the seeds and then eat them.

Fair enough… But remember to take scopolamine or datura seeds. You're likely going to vomit otherwise.

Would it be more effective if I eat the crushed seeds on an empty stomach?

Yes.

If I have a choice in the matter, I'd like to go out eating MacDonalds and drinking beer. If I do this after eating the seeds will it affect the outcome?

I would not recommend eating anything, let alone beer; you're just going to complicate things. That said, you may have after consuming the seeds would be a piece of chocolate or something, because what you're gonna eat will be bitter.

Finally, thanks to everyone on this site. It means so much to talk with people in the same position as me. The people I know in person wouldn't understand what it's like to have made the decision to CTB.

No problem!

 

[Joeydoe]

Don't sweat it. Not everyone can pull this off. And I think it's bound to be an even bigger challenge when it comes to seeds.

This is good enough.

Fair enough… But remember to take scopolamine or datura seeds. You're likely going to vomit otherwise.

Yes.

I would not recommend eating anything, let alone beer; you're just going to complicate things. That said, you may have after consuming the seeds would be a piece of chocolate or something, because what you're gonna eat will be bitter.

No problem!

Where are we supposed to get scopolamine?

 

[DetachedDreamer97]

Where are we supposed to get scopolamine?

Ebay, or buy datura inoxia seeds. Get the Kwells tablets.