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crochetpenguin

crochetpenguin

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Jan 5, 2025
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im new to all of this and ive been doing research. I bought sodium nirate at 99% purity. is it just as lethal as sodium nitrite? or should I take more than the SN protocol?
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J&L383

Enlightened
Jul 18, 2023
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No. It's totally different. Even though it sounds similar the biochemical reactions are not the same.
 
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Odwin

Odwin

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Mar 31, 2021
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Here is what chatgpt said;

1. Sodium Nitrite (NaNO₂): More Deadly in Excess

  • Toxic Mechanism:
    • Sodium nitrite interferes with the ability of red blood cells to carry oxygen by converting hemoglobin into methemoglobin, a form that cannot bind oxygen effectively. This condition is called methemoglobinemia and can lead to oxygen deprivation.
  • Lethal Dose:
    • The median lethal dose (LD50) of sodium nitrite is approximately 71 mg per kilogram of body weight. For an average adult, as little as 2–6 grams could be fatal.
  • Symptoms of Overdose:
    • Blueish skin (cyanosis), difficulty breathing, low blood pressure, confusion, dizziness, and possibly death if untreated.
  • Use in Food:
    • Sodium nitrite is regulated in food products because even small amounts can be dangerous if mishandled.

2. Sodium Nitrate (NaNO₃): Less Immediately Toxic

  • Toxic Mechanism:
    • Sodium nitrate is less reactive than sodium nitrite. However, it can be converted to sodium nitrite in the body, particularly in the stomach, under acidic conditions.
    • In high amounts, it can lead to methemoglobinemia, but the process is slower compared to sodium nitrite.
  • Lethal Dose:
    • The LD50 of sodium nitrate is 3,000–4,000 mg per kilogram of body weight, which is much higher than sodium nitrite. This means it requires significantly more sodium nitrate to cause acute toxicity.
  • Symptoms of Overdose:
    • Nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, abdominal pain, and potential methemoglobinemia if converted to nitrite.
 
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crochetpenguin

crochetpenguin

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Jan 5, 2025
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Here is what chatgpt said;

1. Sodium Nitrite (NaNO₂): More Deadly in Excess

  • Toxic Mechanism:
    • Sodium nitrite interferes with the ability of red blood cells to carry oxygen by converting hemoglobin into methemoglobin, a form that cannot bind oxygen effectively. This condition is called methemoglobinemia and can lead to oxygen deprivation.
  • Lethal Dose:
    • The median lethal dose (LD50) of sodium nitrite is approximately 71 mg per kilogram of body weight. For an average adult, as little as 2–6 grams could be fatal.
  • Symptoms of Overdose:
    • Blueish skin (cyanosis), difficulty breathing, low blood pressure, confusion, dizziness, and possibly death if untreated.
  • Use in Food:
    • Sodium nitrite is regulated in food products because even small amounts can be dangerous if mishandled.

2. Sodium Nitrate (NaNO₃): Less Immediately Toxic

  • Toxic Mechanism:
    • Sodium nitrate is less reactive than sodium nitrite. However, it can be converted to sodium nitrite in the body, particularly in the stomach, under acidic conditions.
    • In high amounts, it can lead to methemoglobinemia, but the process is slower compared to sodium nitrite.
  • Lethal Dose:
    • The LD50 of sodium nitrate is 3,000–4,000 mg per kilogram of body weight, which is much higher than sodium nitrite. This means it requires significantly more sodium nitrate to cause acute toxicity.
  • Symptoms of Overdose:
    • Nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, abdominal pain, and potential methemoglobinemia if converted to nitrite.
so if i just calculate the right ratio. I could still ctb? as ive found it near impossible to find SN
 
ijustwishtodie

ijustwishtodie

I have finally found my ultimate bliss
Oct 29, 2023
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No, you'd fail an attempt if you were to use nitrate instead of nitrite
 
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Loaf of bread

Warlock
Mar 22, 2022
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See this thread, where a user accidentaly took nitrate (NaNO3) without realizing. Not effective at all!
 
cali22♡

cali22♡

Banned
Nov 11, 2023
452
Here is what chatgpt said;

1. Sodium Nitrite (NaNO₂): More Deadly in Excess

  • Toxic Mechanism:
    • Sodium nitrite interferes with the ability of red blood cells to carry oxygen by converting hemoglobin into methemoglobin, a form that cannot bind oxygen effectively. This condition is called methemoglobinemia and can lead to oxygen deprivation.
  • Lethal Dose:
    • The median lethal dose (LD50) of sodium nitrite is approximately 71 mg per kilogram of body weight. For an average adult, as little as 2–6 grams could be fatal.
  • Symptoms of Overdose:
    • Blueish skin (cyanosis), difficulty breathing, low blood pressure, confusion, dizziness, and possibly death if untreated.
  • Use in Food:
    • Sodium nitrite is regulated in food products because even small amounts can be dangerous if mishandled.

2. Sodium Nitrate (NaNO₃): Less Immediately Toxic

  • Toxic Mechanism:
    • Sodium nitrate is less reactive than sodium nitrite. However, it can be converted to sodium nitrite in the body, particularly in the stomach, under acidic conditions.
    • In high amounts, it can lead to methemoglobinemia, but the process is slower compared to sodium nitrite.
  • Lethal Dose:
    • The LD50 of sodium nitrate is 3,000–4,000 mg per kilogram of body weight, which is much higher than sodium nitrite. This means it requires significantly more sodium nitrate to cause acute toxicity.
  • Symptoms of Overdose:
    • Nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, abdominal pain, and potential methemoglobinemia if converted to nitrite.
Lmao i asked the same
 

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