Victim?

[hiddenpurple]

Who is the victim? Who really, is the victim?

 

[JustAMatterOfTime]

Me always me poor me.

 

[Superdeterminist]

I think it's all of us. All humans, and all other conscious animals. Yes, even the criminals that rape and murder. And many oppose that idea, and I totally understand why. But if behaviour is dictated by brain structure, as the overwhelming majority of evidence suggests that it is, then even criminals are merely victims of their biology. That doesn't make those horrors ok, but under this view, they become just extra atrocities of nature, rather than any kind of 'free choice' made by a 'free agent'. If it has a nervous system, it can probably suffer, and therefore I argue, it is a victim (of nature/reality).

 

[Makko]

I don't think it's meaningful to think of the world in terms of victim and perperator. It makes much more sense to think in terms of giver and taker.

 

[Neowise]

Everyone is the perpetrator in someone else's eyes.

 

[TooConscious]

I don't know what it is but my whole life I never 'played the blame game' as they say...
But this year I can't clear my head off people close to me who have destroyed me (well, not been good) by blaming me for their problems, so I was brought up to never blame, but to take it.
Do who's right now, I feel it's got me a in a teenage angst state of mind because I was more human than all around me, other n a couple of good friends doing good by me. Everyone else vampirized me and my love was wasted on them. Realising you would die for people who throw you in the garbage when it suits them, but know you will continue loving them. Is a profoundly cruel experience. This sick evil species.

 

[signifying nothing]

Like locks and keys I think people just fit together in certain ways.

 

[Sunset Limited]

I think it's all of us. All humans, and all other conscious animals. Yes, even the criminals that rape and murder. And many oppose that idea, and I totally understand why. But if behaviour is dictated by brain structure, as the overwhelming majority of evidence suggests that it is, then even criminals are merely victims of their biology. That doesn't make those horrors ok, but under this view, they become just extra atrocities of nature, rather than any kind of 'free choice' made by a 'free agent'. If it has a nervous system, it can probably suffer, and therefore I argue, it is a victim (of nature/reality).

I agree the same. We bite the apple, love it or not. We cannot decide. All these out of control variables create us. I can't take pleasure in hurting someone, even if I want to. If someone was born with a strong killing instinct and is not mentally capable of controlling it, would they be guilty of their nature? I believe that I should stop that person, but I do not judge. We are all victims.

 

[WornOutLife]

I think the victims are those who were forced to exist when they never asked for it so, US.

 

[FuneralCry]

Our souls are the victim. We are trapped inside these bodies that can torture us to extreme extents, as there is an unlimited amount of diseases we can get, and yet we have to be brave and couragous to get out of of it. We are the victim of our brains which are programmed to survive at all costs.

 

[Journeytoletgo]

I am. A victim of parental ignorance, a victim of genetic random bio chance. And people want me to continue? Leave me be and CTB will make me free