Venting ugly short people should not have kids

[greebo6]

I can sort of relate to this in terms of creating ugly offspring. It doesn't seem fair.

 

[johnnywalter271]

Even so, they still find ways to make it happen anyway so there's certainly still hope for the short and ugly out there.

you're still making the life of your kids hard.
very selfish to get kids when you know your kids will fall well below the average in terms of appearance and/or height.

 

[Dr Iron Arc]

you're still making the life of your kids hard.
very selfish to get kids when you know your kids will fall well below the average in terms of appearance and/or height.

I'm ugly and tall so I only know half of the struggle. It's still been impossible for me to get into a relationship let alone have kids.

 

[Haematemesis]

I don't agree. I think life can be good, wonderful even. It's just that for many people it won't be. I'm 5'11, half black, ugly as all shit, and because of that I know no woman can love me. However, if I was white, 6'2, attractive, I would be able to have a good life almost certainly and I wouldn't be depressed or miserable

oh hello elliot, i hope you get professional help

 

[TheLightOfMyLife]

oh hello elliot, i hope you get professional help

Elliot? As in Elliot rodger?
What is professional help supposed to do bud

 

[Haematemesis]

Elliot? As in Elliot rodger?
What is professional help supposed to do bud

yes as in elliot rodger

 

[TheLightOfMyLife]

yes as in elliot rodger

funny guy
welcome to my ignore list

 

[Al_stargate]

Ugly people can have good-looking kids and good-looking parents can have ugly kids as well, genetics are weird, it's hard to know. Most people aren't ugly, they just not their best version of themselves in terms of looks. Like they are unhealthy, overweight, bad posture, bad skin, don't take care of their appearance. I rarely see a person that I think is just ugly naturally. Some are definitely but maybe just few percent. Looks can be improved through being fit, mewing, face yoga, having clean diet, you know, it's not set in stone that someone is ugly. There are also height stuff a person can do, proper posture can make someone taller.

 

[beelzebul]

honest question: does it make any difference being tall?

for men, yes. personality is what is most important, but the common experience among short men is that women tend to overlook them or actively discriminate against them.

even as a (short) gay guy, i wouldn't date a short man because i just don't find being at the same height as my partner to be attractive. it's a real thing short guys (especially straight men) face.

 

[-nobodyknows-]

What the fuck

 

[Why was I born]

I feel you man, I'm an ugly and short guy as well. People have reacted to me weirdly and treated me like shit all my life, simply because of my looks. How I fucking wish my parents never reproduced with their shit genes.

 

[INYGTRMTFMO]

I'm short and not especially attractive (objectively a solid 4/10 on a good day, maybe a 5/10 in the best possible lighting), and my daughter is GORGEOUS and, so far, average height for her age (my husband is also on the shorter side, but he's handsome and has tall family members).

Of the reasons I'm suicidal, my height and appearance aren't among them, although I know the height thing is more stigmatized if you're AMAB and/or male-identifying.

I'm sorry you're getting picked on. That's not cool of them at all.

I hope you can come to see your beauty even if assholes are being assholes (because assholes will always find SOMETHING to pick on you about).

 

[LostLily]

Having kids is a personal choice.

However for me I do t want to curse them with my genes

 

[KillMeh]

Any two people that have real love for each other, are happy and otherwise able to have them are allowed to have them in my book. Okay theyre ugly, but they found love and happiness, they can guide their ugly offspring to find it too and love them along the way

 

[liskuntreat]

Any two people that have real love for each other, are happy and otherwise able to have them are allowed to have them in my book. Okay theyre ugly, but they found love and happiness, they can guide their ugly offspring to find it too and love them along the way

except love comes ONLY biologically (as selfish organisms, weve been wired to do this for thousands of years to reproduce optimally), what ur speaking about is two unwanted people settling for eachother in a half-assed and forced way (desperation) because thats all they can ever aspire to live out. Either party would consider abandoning the other in a heartbeat for a more appealing mate.

"""real love""" is animalistic attraction, to biologically dominant traits, and it will ALWAYS be that way until were not animals

 

[AnxiousLlama]

also short deathnic and unattractive. not sure whether i should hate myself or normgroids. all is see about body positivity is fat black women in adverts. otherwise representation for men is dictated by 6ft+ chads or deadbeat tyrones. Both by liberals and conservatives, women and men. Every one hates our existence.

I don't blame my parents. they try exceptionally hard. feel almost bad for being here.

 

[vitbar]

except love comes ONLY biologically (as selfish organisms, weve been wired to do this for thousands of years to reproduce optimally), what ur speaking about is two unwanted people settling for eachother in a half-assed and forced way (desperation) because thats all they can ever aspire to live out. Either party would consider abandoning the other in a heartbeat for a more appealing mate.

"""real love""" is animalistic attraction, to biologically dominant traits, and it will ALWAYS be that way until were not animals

This isn't my experience, unless you count a bunch of non-looks based traits as dominant. I've been head over heels for "ugly" looking people.

Have you never known someone below average in looks and felt like having kids with them? Just this visceral sense your children would be strong.

Have you never met someone you'd like to fuck, but wouldn't even think of anything beyond that?

imo our instincts are more imperfect than you describe. It's all indirect pushing and pulling. There is a trend towards some optimal, but there are multiple instincts and multiple goals.

 

[darksouls]

Having kids as 2 ugly short people is setting your offspring up for failure.
This should be forbidden by law.

I am short and ugly and am always ignored.
People constantly make jokes about my height and appearance as if I chose to look this way. I am not even mad at other people, but my parents. Why did they choose to have kids knowing that I would be ugly as shit.
I can't imagine myself keep living like this. I truly want to end this shit. I want to live a normal life. I want to have a good social circle. I don't want to be the social reject.
One part of me says to go all out with surgeries and one part tells me to just end it all. It's a constant war.
However, even if I try to fix myself, the years of constant bullying will never leave me. My mind is too far gone atp.

The point tho: if you get a kid as a couple of ugly short people, your kids will be ugly and short. They WILL get bullied and will never get loved like their peers.
Even if they manage to get friends, they will never be the first option anywhere. They will develop anxiety and will resent humanity.
Getting kids when you're ugly and short should be forbidden!

it is generelly the worst crime to bring children in this sick world

 

[liskuntreat]

Have you never known someone below average in looks and felt like having kids with them? Just this visceral sense your children would be strong.

Have you never met someone you'd like to fuck, but wouldn't even think of anything beyond that?

no, i havent.

 

[clavicle]

Having kids as 2 ugly short people is setting your offspring up for failure.
This should be forbidden by law.

I am short and ugly and am always ignored.
People constantly make jokes about my height and appearance as if I chose to look this way. I am not even mad at other people, but my parents. Why did they choose to have kids knowing that I would be ugly as shit.
I can't imagine myself keep living like this. I truly want to end this shit. I want to live a normal life. I want to have a good social circle. I don't want to be the social reject.
One part of me says to go all out with surgeries and one part tells me to just end it all. It's a constant war.
However, even if I try to fix myself, the years of constant bullying will never leave me. My mind is too far gone atp.

The point tho: if you get a kid as a couple of ugly short people, your kids will be ugly and short. They WILL get bullied and will never get loved like their peers.
Even if they manage to get friends, they will never be the first option anywhere. They will develop anxiety and will resent humanity.
Getting kids when you're ugly and short should be forbidden!

& people will have the audacity to say eugenics is cruel. It's not that only beautiful people deserve to live it's that if we could live in world where everyone was more or less equal in terms of looks there would be 90 percent less suicides