Thinking on going into recovery

[miguel6565]

Since i smoked weed for last time and my mood been better since that day i am starting to have thoughts of recovery,like i would like to work and have a good pc whit and try different gaming things like new keyboards and mouses (yes i am a fanboy of tech things and i would spend my money in drugs and pc`s) but form the other side i am sick of life and i dont really wanna recover,i mena im still 18 and i have schizophrenia and depression and i dont know how much time i will be able to keep living,i am so confused i thought i was ready but i am not

 

[Spitfire]

I am sorry you are confused and having these type of feelings.

It sounds understandable to feel this way by what you said, having recently been diagnosed with schizophrenia.

I think in some time, by working with your psychiatrist and other doctors, there is a good chance to get some of the things you want in life.

A lot of the confusion may even start to go away most of the time for you when you start getting the right treatments too.

 

[Ghost2211]

CTB is not a limited time thing. If you ever feel like trying recovery it's worth doing so. Your diagnosis is new, and probably causing a lot of complex emotions. Hopefully doing some research and talking to doctors will help you have a clearer picture of the potential future and what you want.

 

[Pharmaruined]

Since i smoked weed for last time and my mood been better since that day i am starting to have thoughts of recovery,like i would like to work and have a good pc whit and try different gaming things like new keyboards and mouses (yes i am a fanboy of tech things and i would spend my money in drugs and pc`s) but form the other side i am sick of life and i dont really wanna recover,i mena im still 18 and i have schizophrenia and depression and i dont know how much time i will be able to keep living,i am so confused i thought i was ready but i am not

You're so young.. and sounds like you have a couple bucks.. I would look into a lab test that tests 600 foods you could be having an allergic inflammatory reaction to.

My massage therapists husband came down with Lou gherigs disease and after that test he eliminated a few foods and after 3 or 4 months he was walking again.. no problem.. it sounds like a miracle. But u have no idea how negative food can affect us.. even supposedly healthy ones.. everybody is different, and has different triggers.

there's something going on having schizophrenia, but I think u have time to beat it.. don't listen to drs..
Anyway pm me if u want the details.. good luck and congrats on your decision

 

[Spitfire]

Nutritional intake is very important to the overall health of our bodies, to include psychological issues.

I do not like, or agree at all with the other advice you gave him to not listen to his doctors. I do understand where you are coming from, but not for with schizophrenia.

I would not recommend that advice without knowing much more about his specific personal situation to this disease.

 

[Ghost2211]

You're so young.. and sounds like you have a couple bucks.. I would look into a lab test that tests 600 foods you could be having an allergic inflammatory reaction to.

My massage therapists husband came down with Lou gherigs disease and after that test he eliminated a few foods and after 3 or 4 months he was walking again.. no problem.. it sounds like a miracle. But u have no idea how negative food can affect us.. even supposedly healthy ones.. everybody is different, and has different triggers.

there's something going on having schizophrenia, but I think u have time to beat it.. don't listen to drs..
Anyway pm me if u want the details.. good luck and congrats on your decision

It's one thing to encourage a healthy life style, but telling people not to listen to doctors is potentially dangerous. Also, you can't "beat it" it's not a state of health where if you try hard enough it goes away, but rather a mental health situation that is predetermined from birth, emerges in teens-twenties, and is part of who the person is. Lou gherigs is ALS (Amyotrophic lateral sclerosisis) and not reversible, and anyone who told it is would be lying. It's a degenerative death sentence. Do more research and learn more science before you spread this bs.

 

[Cant Maintain]

Trying for recovery is always worth the shot, and there's some resources and the new chat room on the site for recovery, it's usually fairly empty, but more and more people have started Checkin in regularly if you need to chat. Weed is great medicine at times, but don't be afraid to also follow your docs advice. Wishing you luck

 

[Pharmaruined]

It's one thing to encourage a healthy life style, but telling people not to listen to doctors is potentially dangerous. Also, you can't "beat it" it's not a state of health where if you try hard enough it goes away, but rather a mental health situation that is predetermined from birth, emerges in teens-twenties, and is part of who the person is. Lou gherigs is ALS (Amyotrophic lateral sclerosisis) and not reversible, and anyone who told it is would be lying. It's a degenerative death sentence. Do more research and learn more science before you spread this bs.

Als is reversible.. I've been fighting 10 years and the majority of doctors are clueless.. pharma dictates every thought and action they take... Case in point, a few years ago, scientists came out and said that they can't deny any longer that people with Alzheimer's are loaded with viruses , and fungus in their brain.. does the medical community address this? No.. they don't consider Alzheimer's as an infection..because 90 percent of all ailments are infection related..and all these specialists don't deal with infections disease.

. the whole premise of a different Dr for a different body part is ridiculous.. the body doesn't operate in pieces.. it's a collectively whole entity. Another example, if you had fungus on a toenail they would send u to a podiatrist.. but do u think just maybe the fungus is in the blood? But a podiatrist doesn't treat blood, that's a different specialist.. he only treats the feet..

. I've seen so many miracles in alternative health..I've spent 500k dollars chasing cures..I've been all over the world.. you've totally bought into Western medicine bullshit.. there a place for it no doubt.. but it's noth the end all cure all.. in fact it's not about curing anything..

I guess it's taboo to encourage life in a suicide forum when someone reaches out . You're pathetic

 

[Chupacabra 44]

You mentioned you have schizophrenia in the OP. Have you tried any diet modification to help this disorder?

I researched dietary implications for schizophrenia. Studies show the majority of schizophrenics have food intolerances to both gluten and dairy.

I highly recommend you cut both of those things out of your diet by 100% to see how it impacts your disorder. if you choose to do so, be advised that both of those ingredients are extremely common in the majority of packaged foods.

Personally, I have bipolar disorder and I am able to influence my symptoms through dietary interventions.

Good luck.

 

[Ghost2211]

Als is reversible.. I've been fighting 10 years and the majority of doctors are clueless.. pharma dictates every thought and action they take... Case in point, a few years ago, scientists came out and said that they can't deny any longer that people with Alzheimer's are loaded with viruses , and fungus in their brain.. does the medical community address this? No.. they don't consider Alzheimer's as an infection..because 90 percent of all ailments are infection related..and all these specialists don't deal with infections disease.

. the whole premise of a different Dr for a different body part is ridiculous.. the body doesn't operate in pieces.. it's a collectively whole entity

. I've seen so many miracles in alternative health..I've spent 500k dollars chasing cures..I've been all over the world.. you've totally bought into Western medicine bullshit.. there a place for it no doubt.. but it's noth the end all cure all.. in fact it's not about curing anything..

I guess it's taboo to encourage life in a suicide forum when someone reaches out . You're pathetic

I don't buy into medical world, I'm part of it. I've done the studying, and the research. I don't just read a bunch of fairy tales that food can cure everything. My problems isn't your theories on life it's that you told OP not to listen to doctors.

 

[VIBRITANNIA]

it's alright to be confused. whatever you decide, we're here for you.

 

[Pharmaruined]

I don't buy into medical world, I'm part of it. I've done the studying, and the research. I don't just read a bunch of fairy tales that food can cure everything. My problems isn't your theories on life it's that you told OP not to listen to doctors.

So he should just accept defeat?.. yea great strategy.. food is medicine and poison. Not everything can be cured by food/herbs but it's a huge equation that I'm sure your studies didnt cover it. Or toxic metals etc..

I don't buy into medical world, I'm part of it. I've done the studying, and the research. I don't just read a bunch of fairy tales that food can cure everything. My problems isn't your theories on life it's that you told OP not to listen to doctors.

And just to clarify, I said don't listen to drs in terms of not trying anything different or something outside their paradigm. Doesn't mean he can't try both.. life isn't either/or

 

[Ghost2211]

So he should just accept defeat?.. yea great strategy.. food is medicine and poison. Not everything can be cured by food/herbs but it's a huge equation that I'm sure your studies didnt cover it. Or toxic metals etc..

I never said accept defeat. I dont look at things like schizophrenia as a something that must be stomped out. We all have our struggles in life, and learning what helps our specific needs is important. yes, good lifestyle choices should be part of life, and do help. Sometimes meds are needed for people to function in society. Until you deal with auditory and visual hallucinations you really shouldn't assume people can just deal and eat the problem away. You're clearly anti medicine, so I'll avoid that topic with you since we can't see eye to eye on it.

 

[Spitfire]

Als is reversible.. I've been fighting 10 years and the majority of doctors are clueless.. pharma dictates every thought and action they take... Case in point, a few years ago, scientists came out and said that they can't deny any longer that people with Alzheimer's are loaded with viruses , and fungus in their brain.. does the medical community address this? No.. they don't consider Alzheimer's as an infection..because 90 percent of all ailments are infection related..and all these specialists don't deal with infections disease.

. the whole premise of a different Dr for a different body part is ridiculous.. the body doesn't operate in pieces.. it's a collectively whole entity. Another example, if you had fungus on a toenail they would send u to a podiatrist.. but do u think just maybe the fungus is in the blood? But a podiatrist doesn't treat blood, that's a different specialist.. he only treats the feet..

. I've seen so many miracles in alternative health..I've spent 500k dollars chasing cures..I've been all over the world.. you've totally bought into Western medicine bullshit.. there a place for it no doubt.. but it's noth the end all cure all.. in fact it's not about curing anything..

I guess it's taboo to encourage life in a suicide forum when someone reaches out . You're pathetic

I promise you that you do not know what you are talking about when it comes to this thread and schizophrenia.

Please stop encouraging dangerous gibberish.

"Pathetic"? Just stop...

 

[Spitfire]

miguel6565,

Please do not listen to this person. I do not think they have your best interests in mind.

EDIT: I don't think it was deliberate. I think they had good intentions. I just do not think they understand this disease and its treatments very well. Possibly too much influence coming from their own personal life circumstances?