Help still confused about fsh

[peewee]

still confused as everyone says place rope under jaw but the resource on hangiong says this

Ligature positions tested;
- at top of neck / just over the larynx ring;
With prior inhale = 20+ seconds. The ligature, when in contact with the throat, produces a strong
desire to swallow, or cough. Without a prior inhale the time frame is longer, and the over
stimulation remains. It cannot be recommended.
- at base of neck/ one inch above collar bone gullet;
With prior inhale approx 10-20 seconds. This position resulted in mild pressure build up, but did
not cause throat irritation.
- just under larynx ring;
With prior inhale = 15-20 seconds. This location resulted in slight pressure build up pressure
build up, but no throat irritation.
I have found that despite there being a crossing over on the throat area, that the
overstimulation found on certain areas of the neck is based not on location of the knot or
crossing, but by the ligatures position relative to the larynx. Placement above and on top of the
larynx results in irritation, whereas placement below, with muscles to cushion the compression,
results in a much more comfortable experience.
Out of thoroughness, a second attempt was made to verify the relatively comfortable position of
the ligature at the based of the neck, but this time with the crossing point being at the back of
the neck and with an inhale. The swimming sensation was met within 20 seconds, with no throat
stimulation and with no pinching.
It is of my opinion that the best position for the ligature is at the base of the neck, not the
stereotypical top.

 

[locked*n*loaded]

I don't think they worried too much about placement back in the Old West days. The rope was large, the noose was just placed over the head and tightened around the neck, and the trapdoor opened. Same effect jumping from a tree limb.

 

[JesiBel]

Let's be realistic, for the few seconds you are conscious you will feel the pressure of the rope penetrating your neck.

Especially at the front of the neck where the ligature exerts the most pressure. You can see in photos of hanged people that the rope's groove is much deeper there.

When you're completely suspended in the air with the rope around your neck, gravity will pull your body down, and the rope will slide to the top of your neck anyway. This whole experience won't be pleasant if you position the rope lower.

Look at the insane level of compression that can be achieved by positioning the rope under the jaw (Warning, sensitive and explicit content)

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[Gustav Hartmann]

This whole experience won't be pleasant if you position the rope lower.

Interesting wording!

 

[Suizident]

Out of thoroughness, a second attempt was made to verify the relatively comfortable position of
the ligature at the based of the neck, but this time with the crossing point being at the back of
the neck and with an inhale. The swimming sensation was met within 20 seconds, with no throat
stimulation and with no pinching.
It is of my opinion that the best position for the ligature is at the base of the neck, not the
stereotypical top.

Back, base. I can't really picture what you mean. Could you use Paint to draw on a picture (like the one below) to show me which areas you're referring to? :)

 

[AreWeWinning]

- just under larynx ring;
With prior inhale = 15-20 seconds. This location resulted in slight pressure build up pressure
build up, but no throat irritation.
I have found that despite there being a crossing over on the throat area, that the
overstimulation found on certain areas of the neck is based not on location of the knot or
crossing, but by the ligatures position relative to the larynx. Placement above and on top of the
larynx results in irritation, whereas placement below, with muscles to cushion the compression,
results in a much more comfortable experience.
Out of thoroughness, a second attempt was made to verify the relatively comfortable position of
the ligature at the based of the neck, but this time with the crossing point being at the back of
the neck and with an inhale. The swimming sensation was met within 20 seconds, with no throat
stimulation and with no pinching.
It is of my opinion that the best position for the ligature is at the base of the neck, not the
stereotypical top.

I guess, it depends on the person. Some people find it's more comfortable and effective when the rope is positioned lower, below the Adam's apple (as it is in your case).

However, there are two additional factors here, and I'm not sure whether you've considered these:

1. The rope will likely slide up anyway when you pass out and lose muscle tone.
2. The windpipe (trachea) is below the Adam's apple and it's much more sensitive to pressure and irritation.

In most cases (about 98%) the rope is positioned at the top when the victim is found, so we can assume it's either the best position for passing out or the rope slides up under tension. I think, in some cases it's the latter, and the rope just slides up. My fear is that, if someone has a larger Adam's apple, this can be painful if it happens before the person has fully passed out.

Regarding the windpipe, it starts at the level of the Adam's apple and goes down toward the lungs, and it's more sensitive to pressing forces than the throat, at least in theory. You may be able to pass out easier when the rope is positioned lower, but if you do full suspension or if the weight increases as you're passing out, it might become more uncomfortable, even if it appears to be more comfortable initially.

Any thoughts?

 

[setspiritfree]

still confused as everyone says place rope under jaw but the resource on hangiong says this

Ligature positions tested;
- at top of neck / just over the larynx ring;
With prior inhale = 20+ seconds. The ligature, when in contact with the throat, produces a strong
desire to swallow, or cough. Without a prior inhale the time frame is longer, and the over
stimulation remains. It cannot be recommended.
- at base of neck/ one inch above collar bone gullet;
With prior inhale approx 10-20 seconds. This position resulted in mild pressure build up, but did
not cause throat irritation.
- just under larynx ring;
With prior inhale = 15-20 seconds. This location resulted in slight pressure build up pressure
build up, but no throat irritation.
I have found that despite there being a crossing over on the throat area, that the
overstimulation found on certain areas of the neck is based not on location of the knot or
crossing, but by the ligatures position relative to the larynx. Placement above and on top of the
larynx results in irritation, whereas placement below, with muscles to cushion the compression,
results in a much more comfortable experience.
Out of thoroughness, a second attempt was made to verify the relatively comfortable position of
the ligature at the based of the neck, but this time with the crossing point being at the back of
the neck and with an inhale. The swimming sensation was met within 20 seconds, with no throat
stimulation and with no pinching.
It is of my opinion that the best position for the ligature is at the base of the neck, not the
stereotypical top.

This is some good research and I thank you for sharing. I am definitely taking this into consideration.

 

[peewee]

Back, base. I can't really picture what you mean. Could you use Paint to draw on a picture (like the one below) to show me which areas you're referring to? :)


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hey im not sure, this is not my reasearch it is from one of the reousrces provided x