Sn without meds possible?

[Sslsh]

Can I take sn without ANY meds? What are the risk factors? I'm good at controlling nausea. And don't easily puke. Due to some reasons, I'm unable to procure meds.

I'll have two glasses so that I immediately drink the second one in case I do puke the first one.

Any advice would be appreciated

 

[blueclover_.]

Yeah, it's gonna be more uncomfortable though.

 

[9kevinngannou]

Yeah you can take SN without the meds, people have been succesful without it. The risk factors are obviously that you can puke a good amount of it out and jeopardize your attempt. You can also puke after you've fell uncounscious though , I think? Not so sure about that.

 

[Grumpy Bear]

Can I take sn without ANY meds? What are the risk factors? I'm good at controlling nausea. And don't easily puke. Due to some reasons, I'm unable to procure meds.

I'll have two glasses so that I immediately drink the second one in case I do puke the first one.

Any advice would be appreciated

Yes it is possible but like others have said it will be more uncomfortable and have a higher risk of failure. My partner and I will CTB without an antiemetic but we will have OTC anti acid and pain relievers. Our CTB is New Years night and it will be observed and reported back to the community to help others.

 

[Someone123]

Can I take sn without ANY meds? What are the risk factors? I'm good at controlling nausea. And don't easily puke. Due to some reasons, I'm unable to procure meds.

I'll have two glasses so that I immediately drink the second one in case I do puke the first one.

Any advice would be appreciated

There have been some recent posts about this, and in every case people vomited and it didn't work. A strong stomach is not likely to be enough aqgainst such sa potent poison. People keep trying this out of desperation to stop their pain, but I haven't seen it work yet.

 

[Dot]

Thread 'PROOF! - VOMITING HAS *NOT* BEEN REPORTED ON THE FORUM AS A CAUSE OF SN FAILURE' https://sanctioned-suicide.net/thre...-on-the-forum-as-a-cause-of-sn-failure.47986/


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Thread 'SN attempts: failures / successes - detailed methods and experiences information [google docs]' https://sanctioned-suicide.net/thre...nd-experiences-information-google-docs.29900/

 

[sandalphon]

There have been some recent posts about this, and in every case people vomited and it didn't work. A strong stomach is not likely to be enough aqgainst such sa potent poison. People keep trying this out of desperation to stop their pain, but I haven't seen it work yet.

People still vomit even without AE. Stop spreading misinformation, plenty of members here successfully completed with only SN.

 

[Someone123]

People still vomit even without AE. Stop spreading misinformation, plenty of members here successfully completed with only SN.

This is not at all misinformation- this is correct information from a number of recent posts @_elliott had a recent attempt with SN that did not work, and he said that both meto (or another anti-emetic) and painkillers would have helped, and these are part of the protocol from Stan's Guide. Some of these posts were on Sunday, 11/14/21.

@grungeCat has also posted about a failed sn attempt due to vomiting and not using anti-emetics (nov 13/14)

There have been plenty of others but I don't want to keep searching through the threads since there are so many other posts.

Several recently have ctb on sn based on their posts but they followed the protocol in stan's guide either mostly (only variation - meclizine instead of a prescription anti-emetic) or completely (2 cases in recent days)

Can you show any recent posts of people who took only sn and were able to ctb, based on their posts?

 

[Dot]

This is not at all misinformation- this is correct information from a number of recent posts @_elliott had a recent attempt with SN that did not work, and he said that both meto (or another anti-emetic) and painkillers would have helped, and these are part of the protocol from Stan's Guide. Some of these posts were on Sunday, 11/14/21.

@grungeCat has also posted about a failed sn attempt due to vomiting and not using anti-emetics (nov 13/14)

There have been plenty of others but I don't want to keep searching through the threads since there are so many other posts.

Several recently have ctb on sn based on their posts but they followed the protocol in stan's guide either mostly (only variation - meclizine instead of a prescription anti-emetic) or completely (2 cases in recent days)

Can you show any recent posts of people who took only sn and were able to ctb, based on their posts?

@91Days & @AntHydra ddnt us AE. @Cheers usd otc AE whch nt nrmlly advsed.Thre is a docmnt whch shws tht ppl do ctb w/o AEs altho usng AEs wll incrse chnces whch y r recmmndd.

 

[_elliott]

it's possible, but meds help a ton. as long as you can intake more than you're flushing out, you should be fine. it might be more unpleasant, though.

i wish you peace with whatever you choose.

 

[Someone123]

People still vomit even without AE. Stop spreading misinformation, plenty of members here successfully completed with only SN.

You even posted yourself on August 19th that certain people failed because they did not follow the regimen, which is the same thing I am trying to communicate.

 

[Someone123]

@91Days & @AntHydra ddnt us AE. @Cheers usd otc AE whch nt nrmlly advsed.Thre is a docmnt whch shws tht ppl do ctb w/o AEs altho usng AEs wll incrse chnces whch y r recmmndd.

In the case of @Cheers which you mentioned- this supports what I am saying- she did not use only sn, which is what we are discussing-she used all the recommended meds but she made one change- otc meclizine instead of meto. @Cheers is not a case of only sn, which is what we are discussing.

It does look like the other two used only sn, one used a pain med, so it can work, but there are quite a few posts of vomiting from sn ruining ctb.

 

[sandalphon]

Sigh. Your assertion was you can't succeed with SN without AE. That is objectively false. There are literally multiple threads here where people caught the bus with only SN, some of them are very well known here.

As I said, stop spreading misinformation. The only thing you actually need is SN. The other meds just make the process easier.

 

[PeacefulTonic]

Can I take sn without ANY meds? What are the risk factors? I'm good at controlling nausea. And don't easily puke. Due to some reasons, I'm unable to procure meds.

I'll have two glasses so that I immediately drink the second one in case I do puke the first one.

Any advice would be appreciated

Surely you can buy antacids, paracetamol, and Dramamine(the one with meclizine hydrochloride). Those are all easily accessible without prescriptions.

If not, then to answer your question, yes you can take SN without any meds and still succeed

 

[Someone123]

That was not my assertion. I said in the recent posts that I had never seen it work with just sn. You're saying that something was absolute which I did not say was absolute, so that is false. Based on the collection of recent posts sn often fails without the other meds- I posted a couple examples and there are many more. The other meds improve your chances of success greatly with sn- that is why Stans Guide is on this site.

Most people here are trying to work together to get information together so that people can make informed choices, but you do have a very confrontational approach, instead of cooperative, at least in some of these posts, which is not helpful. It is definitely true that the odds of success improve greatly when you take all the meds in Stans Guide compared to those who only take sn.

(Its looks the original post this was responding to is gone- but I was saynig that I didn't say thta this couldn't work with sn only, just that it is more reliable if you use the other meds).

 

[blueclover_.]

That was not my assertion. I said in the recent posts that I had never seen it work with just sn. You're saying that something was absolute which I did not say was absolute, so that is false. Based on the collection of recent posts sn often fails without the other meds- I posted a couple examples and there are many more. The other meds improve your chances of success greatly with sn- that is why Stans Guide is on this site.

Most people here are trying to work together to get information together so that people can make informed choices, but you do have a very confrontational approach, instead of cooperative, at least in some of these posts, which is not helpful. It is definitely true that the odds of success improve greatly when you take all the meds in Stans Guide compared to those who only take sn.

(Its looks the original post this was responding to is gone- but I was saynig that I didn't say thta this couldn't work with sn only, just that it is more reliable if you use the other meds).

Well, if you think about it, dead people can't post here that they failed.

 

[Someone123]

Well, if you think about it, dead people can't post here that they failed.

Yes but the posts I am referring to here are ones that posted as they went through the process (of taking sn, possibly other meds, and what they posted after this)- for some of them the process seemed to go smoothly and we havne't heard from them again, and some posted later that it seemed to go well at first but posted later that it didn't work and what happened, and for some the process never went smoothly and they vomited before they ever lost consciousness. I am just considering the ones that posted as they went through this process.