Reddit thread likely talking about SaSu

[SaulGoodmanxX]

Stumbled upon this most on reddit, where im 90% sure they talk about this site. Which i didnt care about really until i saw one of their comments wishing the site could get taken down. I mean, i get it from their point of view, im sure they partly, or even may mostly blame the site for the passing of their loved one. But SaSu has so much more going for it then that. Just curious your guys's thoughts.

 

[Harrier]

Not sure if it is the same individual, but I recall someone who was trying to ctb a week or so ago who was posting as they left.

Hopefully, they found peace.

 

[em4250]

I feel like without sites like this, I'd have been more likely to try some ineffective method and end up permanently injuring myself. So honestly, l feel like this site has prevented me from attempting many times. However, I am more educated on various ways that I could somewhat effectively kill myself, so maybe that's a negative idk.

 

[thelostautistic]

They probably are talking about this site. I can fully understand why people that don't feel the way we do are horrified by this website. There are things on here that I don't think should be allowed but I won't go into that. It's not all bad. If it was I never would have made an account. It's provided me community that I lack in real life. I think suicidal people should have a place to speak openly about how they feel without the threat of being hospitalised. I'm fully aware that I'm biased though. I've received a lot of kindness and understanding here that I haven't always received in person.

 

[SaulGoodmanxX]

I feel like without sites like this, I'd have been more likely to try some ineffective method and end up permanently injuring myself. So honestly, l feel like this site has prevented me from attempting many times. However, I am more educated on various ways that I could somewhat effectively kill myself, so maybe that's a negative idk.

I think its an insanely sharp double edged sword. It can help people be more careful if they do choose to ctb, be more educated, it can help others feel theyre not alone and try to get better and recover. But it can, and has thrown people deeper into the pit. I see both sides, but am heavily against trying to take it down.

 

[NotSoEnchanted]

Stumbled upon this most on reddit, where im 90% sure they talk about this site. Which i didnt care about really until i saw one of their comments wishing the site could get taken down. I mean, i get it from their point of view, im sure they partly, or even may mostly blame the site for the passing of their loved one. But SaSu has so much more going for it than that. Just curious your guys's thoughts.

I'm almost certain I know whose goodbye thread this is about, it's one that I participated in and it reminded me of the true weight of this website. However I still respect the choice of others to leave this world, especially if it's well thought out. This person had been struggling for a long time and was a member of SaSu for over five years, I really do feel that they had thought this through and were ready to move on from this realm.

I get the Reddit poster is grieving, but I do wish they could see that a lot of people here actually care. While yes, we're technically a bunch of 'strangers' we were there for him in his last moments and supported him, the same can't be said about the family. There's a reason people come here to share their last moments rather than call a family member. They feel understood, less alone, safe, and respected here. Not to kick this person while they're down, a loss like this is incredibly hard (I've also lost someone to suicide), but I do wish they could see that this isn't some awful evil place full of people who want others to die.

As another commenter noted, in a way SaSu is a double edge sword and I agree with that. This place isn't perfect by far, and there's times I feel uncomfortable by some of the things here. I agree it can push people down a darker path, but even then, at least this place provides space for people to shed some of the weight and not carry the burden of feeling this way alone. Yeah this place is kinda fucked up, but it's even more fucked up that people are expected to carry the weight of suicide/suicidal ideation alone, and shove it all deep down within themselves lest they be locked up in some for profit 'treatment' facility where they loose both their dignity and autonomy.

I get that I've very biased though, I do, especially since I'm going to CTB soon the same way. However I just really don't care for this site and its users to be framed in such a way.

 

[TAW122]

After some digging on the subreddit, I found it (since I couldn't directly access the link in this thread). Some of the Redditors's comments are despicable and ignorant, including one of them suggesting to get SaSu shut down, which would result in more people attempting (possibly dangerous, brutal, and risky methods to) suicide.

Then of course, all the comments talking about SN and make it all about the person who is a survivor. While I get the sadness for the survivor, I don't appreciate how that subreddit is all about the people who go through the aftermath of someone who CTB'd rather than addressing the reasoning and respecting the person who had just CTB'd.

Maybe my take and opinion on this is too harsh and certainly unpopular, but that's how I see the situation. Until society comes to terms with death by one's own volition (if ever, not anytime soon...), then people will continue to 'secretly' plan and attempt CTB (whether they fail or succeed, moreso the latter) and those who are left behind will continue to be surprised and question things. If only society accepted that CTB can sometimes be a rational decision made by someone who has decided they had enough of sentience and do not wish to keep playing the 'game of existence/life' and go on their own terms to cut short of the suffering by their own hand, then more people would be honest and the bereaved would be less negatively impacted than waking up or encountering a 'surprise'.

 

[SaulGoodmanxX]

I'm almost certain I know whose goodbye thread this is about, it's one that I participated in and it reminded me of the true weight of this website. However I still respect the choice of others to leave this world, especially if it's well thought out. This person had been struggling for a long time and was a member of SaSu for over five years, I really do feel that they had thought this through and were ready to move on from this realm.

I get the Reddit poster is grieving, but I do wish they could see that a lot of people here actually care. While yes, we're technically a bunch of 'strangers' we were there for him in his last moments and supported him, the same can't be said about the family. There's a reason people come here to share their last moments rather than call a family member. They feel understood, less alone, safe, and respected here. Not to kick this person while they're down, a loss like this is incredibly hard (I've also lost someone to suicide), but I do wish they could see that this isn't some awful evil place full of people who want others to die.

As another commenter noted, in a way SaSu is a double edge sword and I agree with that. This place isn't perfect by far, and there's times I feel uncomfortable by some of the things here. I agree it can push people down a darker path, but even then, at least this place provides space for people to shed some of the weight and not carry the burden of feeling this way alone. Yeah this place is kinda fucked up, but it's even more fucked up that people are expected to carry the weight of suicide/suicidal ideation alone, and shove it all deep down within themselves lest they be locked up in some for profit 'treatment' facility where they loose both their dignity and autonomy.

I get that I've very biased though, I do, especially since I'm going to CTB soon the same way. However I just really don't care for this site and its users to be framed in such a wa

Situations are never black and white, without this website who knows what wouldve happened to OPs family member. Sure they couldve gotten better over time, or they also could have tried a method and have had it gone horrifically wrong. There is no all bad or all good, and i wish people could see that about SaSu too.

 

[coffeeandcats]

After some digging on the subreddit, I found it (since I couldn't directly access the link in this thread). Some of the Redditors's comments are despicable and ignorant, including one of them suggesting to get SaSu shut down, which would result in more people attempting (possibly dangerous, brutal, and risky methods to) suicide.

Then of course, all the comments talking about SN and make it all about the person who is a survivor. While I get the sadness for the survivor, I don't appreciate how that subreddit is all about the people who go through the aftermath of someone who CTB'd rather than addressing the reasoning and respecting the person who had just CTB'd.

Maybe my take and opinion on this is too harsh and certainly unpopular, but that's how I see the situation. Until society comes to terms with death by one's own volition (if ever, not anytime soon...), then people will continue to 'secretly' plan and attempt CTB (whether they fail or succeed, moreso the latter) and those who are left behind will continue to be surprised and question things. If only society accepted that CTB can sometimes be a rational decision made by someone who has decided they had enough of sentience and do not wish to keep playing the 'game of existence/life' and go on their own terms to cut short of the suffering by their own hand, then more people would be honest and the bereaved would be less negatively impacted than waking up or encountering a 'surprise'.

I'm not disagreeing with you, but I believe that was posted on a bereavement forum. Which by definition is all about the survivors. I get both sides of it.