I hear people say these site is 'pro choice' but that's the same as saying 'pro suicide' because it's advocating for the same thing.
Example in case of abortion:
Pro-choice and Pro-abortion - are advocating for the same thing. Advocating for abortion to be an option.
Unlike: Prolife- advocating agaisnt abortion.
So like when people say 'no we are not pro-suicide , we are pro-choice', its the exact same thing advocated for really(the choice of suicide, or more clearly, allowing suicide to be a viable option)
Like it would make more sense if it was 'no we are not pro-suicide, we are anti-suicide', meaning advocating agaisnt it.
Do you agree with me?
Anyways the idea of chronic ill people ending their suffering makes sense of course, they are physical suffering. The Idea of mentally ill people ending their suffering, also makes sense because the mind is biologically effected when they are ill.
I heard somewhere majority of people who suicide are neurodivergent and or autistic. That also makes sense, they're mind is biologically wired different.
But for some reason a lot of people justify having these issues, as a reasoning to suicide like indefinetely. What about the people that have these issues and choose to live? Do you think they don't exist, or its illogical? Is it really that evil to say to a chronic ill person to try to continue to seek help, even if all else doesn't work? Try to find other solutions, like meds dont work , therapy doesn't work, so suicide is really the only solution? Or what else would you propose then.
This site imo is built to not be pro-suicide, but the users are just majority pro-suicide. Just looking at what majority of threads are about in the suicide discussion(in depth methods,helping others suicide, etc)
thats why im inferring this. Can we just be honest?
The tone is always , I Hope you find peace (aka end suffering through their method, probably) and not I Hope you find help to have peace in your life (aka more on the hopeful tone of things could get better).
But it makes sense why many are pro-suicide. It's because other social media sites are heavily restricting on these topics, anything pro suicide is just banned. So we all come here. Otherwise we would probably be on reddit saying some hopeful anti-suicide things , because thats only what they accept.
So it makes sense. But I just sense like people are just not being fully truthful when they say they are pro-choice ,it makes it sound then in cases of living despite having chronic illness, or mental illness, is also advocated for, but I really dont actually see much of that. So just say pro-suicide right.
Ill be open and say, I have chronic illness(the surgery to fix it has too many risks), neurodivergent, had severe depression at 12(diagnosed by family doctor but not officially tested), I also have not been diagnosed for autism, but im on the waitlist to be tested, honestly I would also self-diagnose that. So yeah I just wanted to share my perspective here. Hope this doesn't offend anyone Im just wondering.
Example in case of abortion:
Pro-choice and Pro-abortion - are advocating for the same thing. Advocating for abortion to be an option.
Unlike: Prolife- advocating agaisnt abortion.
So like when people say 'no we are not pro-suicide , we are pro-choice', its the exact same thing advocated for really(the choice of suicide, or more clearly, allowing suicide to be a viable option)
Like it would make more sense if it was 'no we are not pro-suicide, we are anti-suicide', meaning advocating agaisnt it.
Do you agree with me?
Anyways the idea of chronic ill people ending their suffering makes sense of course, they are physical suffering. The Idea of mentally ill people ending their suffering, also makes sense because the mind is biologically effected when they are ill.
I heard somewhere majority of people who suicide are neurodivergent and or autistic. That also makes sense, they're mind is biologically wired different.
But for some reason a lot of people justify having these issues, as a reasoning to suicide like indefinetely. What about the people that have these issues and choose to live? Do you think they don't exist, or its illogical? Is it really that evil to say to a chronic ill person to try to continue to seek help, even if all else doesn't work? Try to find other solutions, like meds dont work , therapy doesn't work, so suicide is really the only solution? Or what else would you propose then.
This site imo is built to not be pro-suicide, but the users are just majority pro-suicide. Just looking at what majority of threads are about in the suicide discussion(in depth methods,helping others suicide, etc)
thats why im inferring this. Can we just be honest?
The tone is always , I Hope you find peace (aka end suffering through their method, probably) and not I Hope you find help to have peace in your life (aka more on the hopeful tone of things could get better).
But it makes sense why many are pro-suicide. It's because other social media sites are heavily restricting on these topics, anything pro suicide is just banned. So we all come here. Otherwise we would probably be on reddit saying some hopeful anti-suicide things , because thats only what they accept.
So it makes sense. But I just sense like people are just not being fully truthful when they say they are pro-choice ,it makes it sound then in cases of living despite having chronic illness, or mental illness, is also advocated for, but I really dont actually see much of that. So just say pro-suicide right.
Ill be open and say, I have chronic illness(the surgery to fix it has too many risks), neurodivergent, had severe depression at 12(diagnosed by family doctor but not officially tested), I also have not been diagnosed for autism, but im on the waitlist to be tested, honestly I would also self-diagnose that. So yeah I just wanted to share my perspective here. Hope this doesn't offend anyone Im just wondering.
