Method Night-Night Troubleshooting

[oneanddone]

Hey all, first thread post here but have been reading for a while.

To be clear, I have a 45ACP but I'm worried about missing that sweet spot and cant get a shotgun until my new ID arrives (tried yesterday) so I've been trying the NightNight but can't get it right. I got the cornhole bags and the ratcheting and can get it super tight--but I dont pass out. I'm slightly underweight if that matters--idk, I just want to get it right. It almost feels like the ratcheting is moving the 'rice' around and not putting pressure where it should be?

I also notice that my artery pulsates like crazy but even after 30 seconds I'm still conscious so I stop because clearly somethings not right and the idea of this is to not make a scene. Shotgun is only if nothing else works, would rather ctb this way. Any tips on it? Do I need to make sure the pressure is exactly on the pulsating part or maybe even using socks? Idk if anyone has experience (or has seen a similar problem) that can help out here?

Think the next step is trying partial but feel like that might lead to the same problem--or then ligature (?) (I know very little about that one).

Thanks for the help
Also mentioning because its kind of funny but I had to cut up one of the ratchet straps that came in the mail because it was way too long
I should also probably mention that I tried rolling up the cornhole bags a little so in theory they would push the rice out of the way but I dont think it did much if anything.

 

[maggot]

This method isn't reliable, the NN thread is full of unsuccessful testimonies and there's only one video of someone using it sucsessfuly. Don't bother with this crap.

 

[oneanddone]

This method isn't reliable, the NN thread is full of unsuccessful testimonies and there's only one video of someone using it sucsessfuly. Don't bother with this crap.

Unfortunate but good to know, thank you. Is partial hanging or Ligature better?

 

[BullsDon'tFly]

Unfortunate but good to know, thank you. Is partial hanging or Ligature better?

There are a lot of reports and videos of people succeeding with partial, but it's also because hanging is probably the most popular suicide method. I think NN is a bit tricky because as the ratchet tightens, the cornbags slide horizontally. It could work if one measures and computes the exact position to tie the cornbags to.
In my experience however, a well positioned rope pulled upwards simply by hand manages to give me tunnel vision, I think it's enough.

 

[Suizident]

In my experience however, a well positioned rope pulled upwards simply by hand manages to give me tunnel vision, I think it's enough.

But what do you want to do with this information that you get tunnel vision when you position the rope correctly and pull it upwards? That the PSH method would work for you?

I tried all the positions of the PSH method and ultimately had the same problems as everyone else: pressure in my head, tingling lips, unconsciousness not achieved.



I think the problem with your attempts is this: if you want to repeat it with PSH, you have to make sure that the pull on the rope is at the same angle as with your hand. And when you lose consciousness, neither the position of the rope nor the position of your body should change.

In newspaper reports, I always read that prisoners manage to hang themselves within a few minutes, even though they are closely monitored. I think they do it with PSH. I wonder how long they trained to be able to do it so well and so quickly.

There are a lot of reports and videos of people succeeding with partial, but it's also because hanging is probably the most popular suicide method. I think NN is a bit tricky because as the ratchet tightens, the cornbags slide horizontally. It could work if one measures and computes the exact position to tie the cornbags to.
In my experience however, a well positioned rope pulled upwards simply by hand manages to give me tunnel vision, I think it's enough.

And how exactly should one do that? Measure and calculate?

In any case, I haven't been able to find my sweet spot using the usual instructions in the forum. I find it strange that it seems to be so difficult.


Also, that you have to find the sweet spot at all (as far as I know, the original instructions for the Night Night method don't say that you have to find the sweet spot). Shouldn't it be enough to tighten the ratchet sufficiently? Why do you need the sweet spot if the ratchet is positioned reasonably correctly (right at the front, just below the chin, just like an FSH)?

 

[Jello Biafra]

But what do you want to do with this information that you get tunnel vision when you position the rope correctly and pull it upwards? That the PSH method would work for you?

I tried all the positions of the PSH method and ultimately had the same problems as everyone else: pressure in my head, tingling lips, unconsciousness not achieved.



I think the problem with your attempts is this: if you want to repeat it with PSH, you have to make sure that the pull on the rope is at the same angle as with your hand. And when you lose consciousness, neither the position of the rope nor the position of your body should change.

In newspaper reports, I always read that prisoners manage to hang themselves within a few minutes, even though they are closely monitored. I think they do it with PSH. I wonder how long they trained to be able to do it so well and so quickly.


And how exactly should one do that? Measure and calculate?

In any case, I haven't been able to find my sweet spot using the usual instructions in the forum. I find it strange that it seems to be so difficult.


Also, that you have to find the sweet spot at all (as far as I know, the original instructions for the Night Night method don't say that you have to find the sweet spot). Shouldn't it be enough to tighten the ratchet sufficiently? Why do you need the sweet spot if the ratchet is positioned reasonably correctly (right at the front, just below the chin, just like an FSH)?

Prisoners are able to successfully hang themselves with partial and bedsheets, yes.

But there's a flip side to that coin. For every successful attempt you don't hear about the 500 other prisoners who tried and failed.