need advice on method SN vs N

[rikamonie]

Recently i found SN method and decided that it would be a better option for me than N because of availability

i chose SN because in my country (england) N is a class A drug and you could possibly get sentenced 5 years in prison i believe, SN is a controlled substance and i dont think i would be in trouble with the law for buying it

i can afford N even if it didn't turn up i would have SN to fall back on

But i'd still prefer to use N, but i really am worried about being caught and jailed what do you think? i need advice i want the most peaceful quickest death possible.. should i risk buying N from A?

id appreciate it greatly if anyone could give their opinions about this, especially the legal side of it since thats my main concern thank you

 

[jgm63]

Recently i found SN method and decided that it would be a better option for me than N because of availability

i chose SN because in my country (england) N is a class A drug and you could possibly get sentenced 5 years in prison i believe, SN is a controlled substance and i dont think i would be in trouble with the law for buying it

i can afford N even if it didn't turn up i would have SN to fall back on

But i'd still prefer to use N, but i really am worried about being caught and jailed what do you think? i need advice i want the most peaceful quickest death possible.. should i risk buying N from A?

id appreciate it greatly if anyone could give their opinions about this, especially the legal side of it since thats my main concern thank you

I don't believe N is class A in the UK.
Where did you get that information ?

 

[GoodPersonEffed]

Hmm. You laid out the legal risks, then asked if you should take the risk. I think only you can determine for yourself what risks to take.

Being informed about the law is important, but it still comes down to a judgment call. Even if it doesn't result in arrest, law enforcement could show up at your door, and the customs violation can be linked to your passport and cause problems with travel.

I think anyone who would advise you that, yes, you should take the risk, puts themselves at risk for encouraging committing a crime.

I wonder, do you maybe just want to hear, "Yes, I think you should do it" in order to get encouragement for what you've already decided you want to do? I think if you're asking, it indicates you already know in your gut the appropriate answer, but are hoping for a different one. That's not a criticism of you, but a reflection of a part of human nature that sometimes gets us to override what we already know is best for ourselves because it doesn't agree with what we want for ourselves.

 

[rikamonie]

I don't believe N is class A in the UK.
Where did you get that information ?

oh sorry! class B, class A if its injection.. i got this information from many different sites online on UK laws i apologise if im wrong

Hmm. You laid out the legal risks, then asked if you should take the risk. I think only you can determine for yourself what risks to take.

Being informed about the law is important, but it still comes down to a judgment call. Even if it doesn't result in arrest, law enforcement could show up at your door, and the customs violation can be linked to your passport and cause problems with travel.

I think anyone who would advise you that, yes, you should take the risk, puts themselves at risk for encouraging committing a crime.

I wonder, do you maybe just want to hear, "Yes, I think you should do it" in order to get encouragement for what you've already decided you want to do? I think if you're asking, it indicates you already know in your gut the appropriate answer, but are hoping for a different one. That's not a criticism of you, but a reflection of a part of human nature that sometimes gets us to override what we already know is best for ourselves because it doesn't agree with what we want for ourselves.

it makes sense what you said, but i was more looking for more advice and information on the legal side of it, since i have researched but i still feel misinformed since i see many people purchasing N and they dont seem to be worried about being arrested.. so i thought maybe i was missing some information!

thank you for the info about customs too i honestly didn't think anything about issues with travel like that

but no haha i'm not looking for encouragement, just looking for more information so that i can make a better decision because i still havnt decided at all! :')

 

[reichan66]

oh sorry! class B, class A if its injection.. i got this information from many different sites online on UK laws i apologise if im wrong


it makes sense what you said, but i was more looking for more advice and information on the legal side of it, since i have researched but i still feel misinformed since i see many people purchasing N and they dont seem to be worried about being arrested.. so i thought maybe i was missing some information!

thank you for the info about customs too i honestly didn't think anything about issues with travel like that

but no haha i'm not looking for encouragement, just looking for more information so that i can make a better decision because i still havnt decided at all! :')

There are a lot of risks but law enforcement has higher priorities than people ordering personal amounts. I'm not sure what it's like in the UK, but in the US, the most they would usually do is show up with a warning or section you if you said you used it for ctb. Being sectioned sucks, but I don't think it would show up in your record as a criminal offense. If you ordered from darkweb, they actually have no way of proving its you. Anyone can order anything to any address

 

[jgm63]

oh sorry! class B, class A if its injection.. i got this information from many different sites online on UK laws i apologise if im wrong


it makes sense what you said, but i was more looking for more advice and information on the legal side of it, since i have researched but i still feel misinformed since i see many people purchasing N and they dont seem to be worried about being arrested.. so i thought maybe i was missing some information!

thank you for the info about customs too i honestly didn't think anything about issues with travel like that

but no haha i'm not looking for encouragement, just looking for more information so that i can make a better decision because i still havnt decided at all! :')

In the UK, barbiturates are class B.
I don't think there's any distinction regarding injection (but if you have a link to any info then please share).

Although I've heard of people having their N taken away from them, I haven't really heard of any cases of people getting into trouble for having a "personal use" quantity.

I suppose there is a risk of being put into a psych ward.

 

[Aap]

Dark web is like a condom - safer but not completely safe. In the US, personal amounts will get you a nasty letter from customs in almost all first times. You ignore it and throw it in the trash.

 

[Samsa]

Well, since I can only evaluate your situation from the perspective of the legal system I live in....it's definitely a risk you would be taking. Not just because of the possible poena, but also (even more important) because of your revealed intention. the crucial moment of this endeavor would imo be, when the parcel is crossing the border. The key question is: Do customs open every parcel which is imported to UK or not? Is there a certain rate of inspections of imported goods in the UK? I know for a fact that importing N to my country would basically be almost impossible. In this context I have been reading some precedence cases and the poenas are quite considerable.

However, since I don't live where you live, maybe you will come to a more accurate conclusion based on the UK conditions, so I'm not going to say "try it" or "don't try it".

 

[rikamonie]

Well, since I can only evaluate your situation from the perspective of the legal system I live in....it's definitely a risk you would be taking. Not just because of the possible poena, but also (even more important) because of your revealed intention. the crucial moment of this endeavor would imo be, when the parcel is crossing the border. The key question is: Do customs open every parcel which is imported to UK or not? Is there a certain rate of inspections of imported goods in the UK? I know for a fact that importing N to my country would basically be almost impossible. In this context I have been reading some precedence cases and the poenas are quite considerable.

However, since I don't live where you live, maybe you will come to a more accurate conclusion based on the UK conditions, so I'm not going to say "try it" or "don't try it".

im not 100% sure about UK customs either, they dont open every parcel though, but im sure they have ways of detecting suspicious substances, thank you for the reply :3

 

[toomuchgrief]

If you have the money, definately go for N

 

[rikamonie]

In the UK, barbiturates are class B.
I don't think there's any distinction regarding injection (but if you have a link to any info then please share).

Although I've heard of people having their N taken away from them, I haven't really heard of any cases of people getting into trouble for having a "personal use" quantity.

I suppose there is a risk of being put into a psych ward.

https://homehealth-uk.com/drugclassification/

here it says any class B drug in injectable form is class A, i also read in another website that i cant remember it said N is class A if found as an injection

when i was reading about N a few years ago there was information saying that there was only 1 case where someone was arrested and sentenced for possession of N in the UK, dont know if theres been more since then i'd provide the link but i have no clue where i read that it was so long ago

edit: but knowing my luck id end up as the second

 

[Emily123]

If you can find N, it is too much better

 

[rikamonie]

There are a lot of risks but law enforcement has higher priorities than people ordering personal amounts. I'm not sure what it's like in the UK, but in the US, the most they would usually do is show up with a warning or section you if you said you used it for ctb. Being sectioned sucks, but I don't think it would show up in your record as a criminal offense. If you ordered from darkweb, they actually have no way of proving its you. Anyone can order anything to any address

is it safe to enter darkweb on phone? like with TOR app? i don't have a computer ): i have no idea how to use it i think im too dumb for that hahah

 

[reichan66]

is it safe to enter darkweb on phone? like with TOR app? i don't have a computer ): i have no idea how to use it i think im too dumb for that hahah

Oh haha, it shouldn't be too difficult. Yes, if you use Tor app from phone, it will hide your IP from the websites you visit. So if you order from Tor with a fake name, it's impossible to prove it was you making the order unless the entire Tor network was compromised. Just delete Tor from your phone after :)

 

[rikamonie]

Oh haha, it shouldn't be too difficult. Yes, if you use Tor app from phone, it will hide your IP from the websites you visit. So if you order from Tor with a fake name, it's impossible to prove it was you making the order unless the entire Tor network was compromised. Just delete Tor from your phone after :)

i see, thank you for the info!

 

[Elbarado]

Tor Browser, 2 electrum wallets, buy N let it send to post box and not your home adress,, i guess u coudnt do more. I would give it a try. If it arrives, i would hide it very good. authorities need to find it.
And if it gets interrupted they wont knock on your door and throw you in jail right away :D

 

[rikamonie]

Tor Browser, 2 electrum wallets, buy N let it send to post box and not your home adress,, i guess u coudnt do more. I would give it a try. If it arrives, i would hide it very good. authorities need to find it.
And if it gets interrupted they wont knock on your door and throw you in jail right away :D

thank u for the info ^^ i decided i will use tor, but if i sent it to my post office id have to use my real name since they need ID to pick it up so i think it would be better to send it to my address but with a fake name hmm just need to decide which seller now :)

 

[Elbarado]

thank u for the info ^^ i decided i will use tor, but if i sent it to my post office id have to use my real name since they need ID to pick it up so i think it would be better to send it to my address but with a fake name hmm just need to decide which seller now :)

and then you have a fake name and in doesnt arrive :D

 

[rikamonie]

and then you have a fake name and in doesnt arrive :D

why wouldnt it arrive if there is an address? o.0 i have shipped people with fake names stuff before and they recieved it

 

[jgm63]

https://homehealth-uk.com/drugclassification/

here it says any class B drug in injectable form is class A, i also read in another website that i cant remember it said N is class A if found as an injection

when i was reading about N a few years ago there was information saying that there was only 1 case where someone was arrested and sentenced for possession of N in the UK, dont know if theres been more since then i'd provide the link but i have no clue where i read that it was so long ago

edit: but knowing my luck id end up as the second

Interesting, thanks for the link.
If your intention was to order N from C then that shouldn't apply, since that is a powder.

 

[rikamonie]

Interesting, thanks for the link.
If your intention was to order N from C then that shouldn't apply, since that is a powder.

yes haha no problem, i just confused the 2 classes since i hadnt researched that for a while!

 

[peacefulhorizons]

N is like driving a rolls royce to your grave while SN is like driving a 2002 honda civic with the bumper attached by duck tape to your grave. Both get you to the same place but the "experience" is completely different.

It's really just a matter of accessibility. I don't think anyone would drink SN if they had a cup of SN and N at their bedside.

 

[Deleted member 14386]

Hold on! Theres some really bad info here. Phones(google/apple) will still contain logs of what apps you downloaded, I doubt it would be forensically examined like that but the data will remain on their servers forever, if at any point your brought up against other charges these will be investigated. Visiting and buying illicit substances over a phone is a very good way to leave evidence behind.
But then I guess it's a scale of risk thing. I'd say do the tor stuff on a PC/laptop than you can easily destroy (or even better get TAILS), at least you can scrub your PC using a document shredder (law enforcement can lift deleted files from your computer, shredding them over-writes the data 32x so it's a lot harder). With tails you only need to destroy 1 usb stick to leave 0 evidence.

I advise against fake names, anyone can send you anything to set you up for a crime etc, maybe it's a false address, you don't know and there is no evidence on your phone or computer if the cops show up. PM if you need any more info on TAILS coz if you have a PC/laptop I highly recommend that.

 

[rikamonie]

Hold on! Theres some really bad info here. Phones(google/apple) will still contain logs of what apps you downloaded, I doubt it would be forensically examined like that but the data will remain on their servers forever, if at any point your brought up against other charges these will be investigated. Visiting and buying illicit substances over a phone is a very good way to leave evidence behind.
But then I guess it's a scale of risk thing. I'd say do the tor stuff on a PC/laptop than you can easily destroy (or even better get TAILS), at least you can scrub your PC using a document shredder (law enforcement can lift deleted files from your computer, shredding them over-writes the data 32x so it's a lot harder). With tails you only need to destroy 1 usb stick to leave 0 evidence.

I advise against fake names, anyone can send you anything to set you up for a crime etc, maybe it's a false address, you don't know and there is no evidence on your phone or computer if the cops show up. PM if you need any more info on TAILS coz if you have a PC/laptop I highly recommend that.

sounds like a better option definitely, unfortunately i have no access to computer only ipad or iphone so i will just have to risk it thank you for the info

 

[Deleted member 14386]

Hmmm :/, the only thing I can suggest is to have the ipad as like a throwaway? anyway I'd try to use only one device, then if the cops show up you can hide/destroy it (microwave works lol). But you will be a small fish in a big pond so don't worry about it too much, but a healthy level of paranoia is a good thing lol
good luck!

 

[rikamonie]

Hmmm :/, the only thing I can suggest is to have the ipad as like a throwaway? anyway I'd try to use only one device, then if the cops show up you can hide/destroy it (microwave works lol). But you will be a small fish in a big pond so don't worry about it too much, but a healthy level of paranoia is a good thing lol
good luck!

god i dont think i could bring myself to destroy such an item hahaha, i already downloaded the apps on my phone anyway so it means iv already messed up right?

does resetting phone completely not work? i guess not

 

[Deleted member 14386]

god i dont think i could bring myself to destroy such an item hahaha, i already downloaded the apps on my phone anyway so it means iv already messed up right?

does resetting phone completely not work? i guess not

It would be better than not definitely, you haven't effed up your fine. Unless your running like a scarface operation I don't think the cops will give much of a shit! If you see cops at the door turn the phone off and refuse to give the password. You should be fine. I was giving tips for high security sorry if I worried you!

 

[rikamonie]

It would be better than not definitely, you haven't effed up your fine. Unless your running like a scarface operation I don't think the cops will give much of a shit! If you see cops at the door turn the phone off and refuse to give the password. You should be fine. I was giving tips for high security sorry if I worried you!

not at all its ok! i appreciate the information (: thanks!