N question

[CiproKilledMe]

I just completed my second taste/sleep test with my N. This time I didn't take very much (.3ml) because I really just wanted to expose myself to the taste again and to make sure it was even still good since I'd already opened the bottle a few months back in order to complete the first sleep test. It definitely still works! I got so relaxed that I just laid still in my bed for about 1.5 hours almost unable to move. But I also noticed that it was very clearly suppressing my breathing, even at this small dosage, while I was still conscious. So this made me wonder: Is there any chance people who take N are aware that they are unable to breathe, only it appears they are unconscious because they're paralyzed/unable to move? I don't want to feel like I'm being suffocated alive, obviously. Are there any studies or anything that prove that the coma comes before the arrested breathing?

 

[sadnurse]

Oh wow I hope not !!

 

[Fadeawaaaay]

I just completed my second taste/sleep test with my N. This time I didn't take very much (.3ml) because I really just wanted to expose myself to the taste again and to make sure it was even still good since I'd already opened the bottle a few months back in order to complete the first sleep test. It definitely still works! I got so relaxed that I just laid still in my bed for about 1.5 hours almost unable to move. But I also noticed that it was very clearly suppressing my breathing, even at this small dosage, while I was still conscious. So this made me wonder: Is there any chance people who take N are aware that they are unable to breathe, only it appears they are unconscious because they're paralyzed/unable to move? I don't want to feel like I'm being suffocated alive, obviously. Are there any studies or anything that prove that the coma comes before the arrested breathing?

This is very promising… That's such a tiny amount put you to rest so deeply…

 

[Deleted member 10090]

From the few people I've read that have failed, they have no recollection of the day they took N or that they even took N, till a bit after they awoke in the ICU. This pretty much answers your question.

I assume you fully removed the rubber stopper, that is what you are referencing when you said you opened it a few months back? It makes sense that N wouldn't go "bad" just slowly loses purity over time.

 

[CiproKilledMe]

This is something I'd love to know too. How bad is the taste? Would Splenda help mask the nastiness? Even a little?

The taste is pretty horrible. That's what I'm trying to desensitize myself to so that I don't gag or puke when the day comes. It's very clearly a chemical that isn't meant for human consumption based on its taste! It didn't bother me nearly as much this time as it did the first time, so I think I'm desensitizing/familiarizing myself with it. It's one thing to squirt a little of it into the back of your mouth with a syringe and it's another to chug an entire glass of the stuff though.

This is very promising… That's such a tiny amount put you to rest so deeply…

Yes, I'm quite sensitive to a lot of drugs. I'm sure one bottle of N would easily kill me based on how potent my sleep tests have been. That stuff is no joke. I love the way it makes you relax too...feels amazing. I'm just a bit concerned about how quickly the breathing suppression kicks in. I don't want it kicking in before I'm unconscious!

I assume you fully removed the rubber stopper, that is what you are referencing when you said you opened it a few months back? It makes sense that N wouldn't go "bad" just slowly loses purity over time.

No, I didn't remove the ribber stopper...I used a syringe to draw some N out. I doubt much oxygen at all got into the bottles when I did that so I figured it would still be potent and it was!

 

[Wrennie]

I just completed my second taste/sleep test with my N. This time I didn't take very much (.3ml) because I really just wanted to expose myself to the taste again and to make sure it was even still good since I'd already opened the bottle a few months back in order to complete the first sleep test. It definitely still works! I got so relaxed that I just laid still in my bed for about 1.5 hours almost unable to move. But I also noticed that it was very clearly suppressing my breathing, even at this small dosage, while I was still conscious. So this made me wonder: Is there any chance people who take N are aware that they are unable to breathe, only it appears they are unconscious because they're paralyzed/unable to move? I don't want to feel like I'm being suffocated alive, obviously. Are there any studies or anything that prove that the coma comes before the arrested breathing?

Oh God, that's how I felt when I OD'd on opiates. The possibility of being "locked in" to my body as I slowly die is the only reason I haven't attempted yet.

 

[Deleted member 10090]

No, I didn't remove the ribber stopper...I used a syringe to draw some N out. I doubt much oxygen at all got into the bottles when I did that so I figured it would still be potent and it was!

thanks for clarifying. Yeah, you'll be fine doing that regardless, no air gets inside the bottle by using the syringe. It'll be good for a very long time.

 

[plough22]

I just completed my second taste/sleep test with my N. This time I didn't take very much (.3ml) because I really just wanted to expose myself to the taste again and to make sure it was even still good since I'd already opened the bottle a few months back in order to complete the first sleep test. It definitely still works! I got so relaxed that I just laid still in my bed for about 1.5 hours almost unable to move. But I also noticed that it was very clearly suppressing my breathing, even at this small dosage, while I was still conscious. So this made me wonder: Is there any chance people who take N are aware that they are unable to breathe, only it appears they are unconscious because they're paralyzed/unable to move? I don't want to feel like I'm being suffocated alive, obviously. Are there any studies or anything that prove that the coma comes before the arrested breathing?

God I wish I had what you had. It give me final peace. No need to go through the pain of suffocation. There are those here would jump on what you have.

 

[wanttogetonthebus]

I just completed my second taste/sleep test with my N. This time I didn't take very much (.3ml) because I really just wanted to expose myself to the taste again and to make sure it was even still good since I'd already opened the bottle a few months back in order to complete the first sleep test. It definitely still works! I got so relaxed that I just laid still in my bed for about 1.5 hours almost unable to move. But I also noticed that it was very clearly suppressing my breathing, even at this small dosage, while I was still conscious. So this made me wonder: Is there any chance people who take N are aware that they are unable to breathe, only it appears they are unconscious because they're paralyzed/unable to move? I don't want to feel like I'm being suffocated alive, obviously. Are there any studies or anything that prove that the coma comes before the arrested breathing?

Well for the people who failed N and were in a comma, but brought back, no one claimed to suffer any distress or difficulty breathing from how it felt. They just lost consciousness. All the sources on N including the PPH also say that N and other GABA antagonist drugs like propofol (what they give to knock you out during surgery) first suppress consciousness. Only after that at higher doses do they completely suppress the breathing reflex, enough to cause death.

 

[Midgardsorm]

I think the only way to answer this would be registering the brainwaves in a patient after administration of N.

Maybe that can be suggested to Pegasos as the family will want reassurance that the patient's passing is peaceful.

 

[wanttogetonthebus]

I think the only way to answer this would be registering the brainwaves in a patient after administration of N.

Maybe that can be suggested to Pegasos as the family will want reassurance that the patient's passing is peaceful.

I think there have been studies done measuring patients brain waves before on GABA antagonists.

 

[Midgardsorm]

I think there have been studies done measuring patients brain waves before on GABA antagonists.

I'm a little weakened to search now, but I'll look for it afterwards.

Still, that means they already know it's peaceful. I would think so too as in a lot surgeries, the person actually is unable to breath and needs ventilation.

If they were somewhat aware of this, they would remember after the surgery.
It isn't barbiturates, but the process would be the same.

 

[Wrennie]

I think the only way to answer this would be registering the brainwaves in a patient after administration of N.

Maybe that can be suggested to Pegasos as the family will want reassurance that the patient's passing is peaceful.

I'm honestly surprised that Exit hasn't tried something like this yet.