N from D?

[esoragoto]

Hello, I'm currently looking into buying N from "B" in the PPH listed in the resources section. But one thing holding me back is the way they seem to be called "D" here, despite not even having a D anywhere in the email or anything. With all the warnings of people changing the addresses listed in the PPH, it makes me a bit nervous...the email beginning with the letter "M" in the Jan 2021 and Mar 2021 editions, currently listed in the resources section, is this "D", correct? People have successfully ordered from them?

The D is just throwing me off a bit; sorry if this is a stupid question.

 

[All Things Must Pass]

B = D

 

[esoragoto]

Email "M" = D?

 

[All Things Must Pass]

Email "M" = D?

Yes.

 

[esoragoto]

Yes.

Thank you.

 

[Thiopentone31]

People succesfully ordered from D. Recently an user, providing a report from EC lab (easily editable though) has questioned the product sold by A and D being N (the report stated GBL, a substance similar to GHB). Then people worried. A bunch of users therefore tested their N from A/D using qualitative test (urine drug test) finding them positive for barbiturates (even though we dont know if these test are realiable). Still waiting for a further confirmation. This is just to some up recent news. Ahahah

 

[Smart No More]

People succesfully ordered from D. Recently an user, providing a report from EC lab (easily editable though) has questioned the product sold by A and D being N (the report stated GBL, a substance similar to GHB). Then people worried. A bunch of users therefore tested their N from A/D using qualitative test (urine drug test) finding them positive for barbiturates (even though we dont know if these test are realiable). Still waiting for a further confirmation. This is just to some up recent news. Ahahah

I can't help wondering if GBL is actually available in the bottles that N comes in.

Is GBL used in medical settings and available to vetinary or medical professionals of any kind?

Is there any benefit to sending GBL in place of N ie legality, availability, price, etc?

Does anyone have any thoughts or answers? :)

 

[checkouttime]

I can't help wondering if GBL is actually available in the bottles that N comes in.

Is GBL used in medical settings and available to vetinary or medical professionals of any kind?

Is there any benefit to sending GBL in place of N ie legality, availability, price, etc?

Does anyone have any thoughts or answers? :)

I see your someone who is on the ball!!!!!!

why would a chemical thats put in cleaners nail polish etc be put in a sterile bottle you need a syringe to get out. Or why would a drug dealer go to the hassle of putting it into this type of bottle with a flip top lid,

I suppose also,if they were going to rip you off, why not just send nothing?

 

[Smart No More]

I don't know what it looks like to CTB with GBL but if people are doing it with loved ones in sight I xpect there would be some reports on the forums. I also imagine and hope that more people are testing their N and would be posting the same results.

It's scary to think this is possible. And it certainly is. Is it probable? I don't think so but the chance is too high for anyones tastes. All I can say is test and share your results where possible! So far this is based one single report if I'm right? So I guess it just highlights the need to be very diligent.

 

[checkouttime]

I have seen a few posts where people have tested with home kits and it has shown for barbiturates. I have a kit that tests 13 in 1 and also some strips that test specifically for barbiturates alone.

the report about it being so called gal was complete bullshit. they posted a fake test paper and there were more holes in the story than swiss cheese. for starters they had purchased apparently from C and that hasn't been possible for a very long time.!!!!! from what have seen on here people who post negative about a source or substance are usually talking BS and you can usually find flaws in their stories eventually as they are shit liars!! the people that post positive results are the ones to take notice of, these are usually the people who are trying to provide legit evidence to help members

 

[Predestinated]

Yes.

"Email M". Could you explain?

 

[All Things Must Pass]

"Email M". Could you explain?

Read the PPH.

 

[checkouttime]

Read the PPH.
"Email M". Could you explain?

they are referring to a sources email address, rather than just calling them by the usual A,B C as we normally do to protect sources

 

[Predestinated]

they are referring to a sources email address, rather than just calling them by the usual A,B C as we normally do to protect sources

ok ive read the PPH. I ask myself: arent the people who order from this guy afraid of the police? I mean if the customs find something while importing the package into your country....

 

[Stevo]

What he sells is injectable N. Can you take orally N that is produced to be injected? Can anyone clarify?

 

[peacefulhorizons]

What he sells is injectable N. Can you take orally N that is produced to be injected? Can anyone clarify?

Yes it can be taken orally. Since it's injectable solution, it will have some additives but it doesn't affect anything.

 

[azazel_djinn]

ok ive read the PPH. I ask myself: arent the people who order from this guy afraid of the police? I mean if the customs find something while importing the package into your country....

I've been wondering about the same thing. In the last 2 months there have been a lot of successful reports of N from D. I'm guessing either D has a way around the custom or the custom just don't really care that much about suicidal people importing lethal drugs in relatively small quantities.

 

[Smart No More]

I've been wondering about the same thing. In the last 2 months there have been a lot of successful reports of N from D. I'm guessing either D has a way around the custom or the custom just don't really care that much about suicidal people importing lethal drugs in relatively small quantities.

The amount of drugs passing over borders via mail is high. Especially in small quantities and now during the pandemic and subsequent lockdowns. It's a lot of work to catch everything. The sorting offices and customs are only able to check so much with absolute presicion as there are only so many hours in the day. So there is a definite element of 'luck of the draw'. They look for the obvious stuff first and can pick up a dodgy package with one and and pass onother with the other hand. The legal repercussions of an intercepted package will depend largely on where you live and the local laws but if you are a first time offender buying s small quantity for personal use I imgine it will be unlikely you will receive much if any punishment. That said, it will be logged at the least and people report receiving a 'love letter' from their local authority 'slapping them on the wrists'. So yes, there is certainly an element of risk but it is all relative to your criminal history, the amount you import, the local laws and a bit of luck. The most we can do if we insist on taking a risk to go ahead and import N is to make it as calculated a risk as possible and take precautions where ever possible. It probably takes a bit of creativity to do all that can be done but there i not 100% safe/certain way to do it. This is the risk we have to decide whether to take or not.

Whatever the case, the advise from any decent lawyer or solicitor is always say nothing. If asked you say I don't know and nothing more. Whether due to questioning for an intercepted package or a follow up visit for a received package. If you receive your package the advice is to store it away from your home where possible. There are threads about it here I think. Also some info on it in the peaceful pill handbook.
It's a serious thing to consider though, no matter how well you can handle the police etc it's not something anybody should do lightly.

It's an unfortunate necessity for some but really should be avoided if possible. I assume that goes without saying though.

In answer to your question I think most people taking the risk to import N do fear the repercussions but are desperate. It's all relative, right?

I expect the sellers do too. Maybe that is actually what you're refering to? In their case I don't know what to say.

 

[checkouttime]

ok ive read the PPH. I ask myself: arent the people who order from this guy afraid of the police? I mean if the customs find something while importing the package into your country....

The only thing that would bother me about the police finding it, would be i wouldn't end up with it!!! if they found it they would probably ask for confirmation of what it is. now its easy to deny, you never ordered a package? like i said the downside would be them confiscating it and you having no chance of ordering again at least to the same address. you just deny everything, they aren't going to be bothered over 1 or 2 bottles.

i've ordered quite a few illegal things lol. i suppose it depends on wether your young or old.your experience with illegal substances aswell i guess

I once brought a stun gun through airport customs, when i was younger!! didn't even think about the consequences, its a fukin gun charge i got rid of it when i got older!!!! i've also took drugs on holiday aswell!!

 

[Predestinated]

The only thing that would bother me about the police finding it, would be i wouldn't end up with it!!! if they found it they would probably ask for confirmation of what it is. now its easy to deny, you never ordered a package? like i said the downside would be them confiscating it and you having no chance of ordering again at least to the same address. you just deny everything, they aren't going to be bothered over 1 or 2 bottles.

i've ordered quite a few illegal things lol. i suppose it depends on wether your young or old.your experience with illegal substances aswell i guess

I once brought a stun gun through airport customs, when i was younger!! didn't even think about the consequences, its a fukin gun charge i got rid of it when i got older!!!! i've also took drugs on holiday aswell!!

Yes you could deny it. But wouldnt they confiscate your PC? so they will find traces on your PC and use it as evidence

 

[checkouttime]

Yes you could deny it. But wouldnt they confiscate your PC? so they will find traces on your PC and use it as evidence

Nah, that would require too much effort for such little gain, you probably get a slap on the wrist and maybe a visit from some welfare people? they would need warrants etc aswell and what if they spent all that time and effort and you weren't lying. it would be alot of wasted time and money.

obviously it might vary in different countries. what i can say is that the PPH hasn't updated anyone being visited by the police in many years or it getting seized. i'm no expert but i imagine the most packages that get searched are large(obviously would be more illegal stuff) or things that look suspicious.

 

[JustAFriendlyGuy]

they are referring to a sources email address, rather than just calling them by the usual A,B C as we normally do to protect sources

Hey! I saw you posting information about N quite a few times. I would be really grateful if you could help me out, there are diffrent PPH versions with diffrent mails and i was already scammed once. I really only have one chance left. I think you succesfully ordered N yourself, it would be really kind if you could sent me the correct mail adress.

 

[checkouttime]

Hey! I saw you posting information about N quite a few times. I would be really grateful if you could help me out, there are diffrent PPH versions with diffrent mails and i was already scammed once. I really only have one chance left. I think you succesfully ordered N yourself, it would be really kind if you could sent me the correct mail adress.

the legit versions are in the resource section

 

[JustAFriendlyGuy]

the legit versions are in the resource section

Yes but there are also versions that are false, which is why i was scammed. That's why it would be kind if you could sent me the real version, so i can be sure to get the product.

 

[checkouttime]

Yes but there are also versions that are false, which is why i was scammed. That's why it would be kind if you could sent me the real version, so i can be sure to get the product.

Your not listening to what i am saying!!!There are 2 versions that have been uploaded into the resource section that are 100% legitimate, they have been uploaded by a moderator of this site.

There are NO fake versions in the resource section of this site,. there may be altered versions on other sites but not on here

 

[Smart No More]

Yes but there are also versions that are false, which is why i was scammed. That's why it would be kind if you could sent me the real version, so i can be sure to get the product.

Its a bit confusing.


Stay away from the wiki section. Dont get it confused with the resources section. The wiki section contains the edited sources of the pph and if you can find the 'resources' mega thread section you should be able to cross reference the emails in them to confirm they are different. If you have been scammed it will be clear which one you should not use this time and hopefully you can find the right one by process of ilimination that way.

I will say however, be very careful what yoy download fron the wiki even if you aren't going to use it. It may contain malware etc so just be on guard and try to cover your bases where possible. I'm really sorry to read that you were scammed. Ultimately trust nobody and if you must take risks make them as cleverly and guardedly calculated as possible. People are not nice and if they send you messages privately be very cautious! Its a sad state of affairs but this is the sad necessity of life we live in.

All the best!

 

[JustAFriendlyGuy]

Its a bit confusing.


Stay away from the wiki section. Dont get it confused with the resources section. The wiki section contains the edited sources of the pph and if you can find the 'resources' mega thread section you should be able to cross reference the emails in them to confirm they are different. If you have been scammed it will be clear which one you should not use this time and hopefully you can find the right one by process of ilimination that way.

I will say however, be very careful what yoy download fron the wiki even if you aren't going to use it. It may contain malware etc so just be on guard and try to cover your bases where possible. I'm really sorry to read that you were scammed. Ultimately trust nobody and if you must take risks make them as cleverly and guardedly calculated as possible. People are not nice and if they send you messages privately be very cautious! Its a sad state of affairs but this is the sad necessity of life we live in.

All the best!

Thanks a lot, i will try :)

 

[Smart No More]

Just to be clear, do not use the sources in the pph from the wiki section. That was the advice I was given.

 

[hermes]

Your suggestion is to refer to references section and NOT to refer to Wiki section.

But Resources section is within Wiki section.

Which other Resources section are you talking about?

 

[intr0verse]

This one. Right on top of Suicide Discussion subforum:

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/suicide-resource-compilation.3/