My mom is talking about SN again

[mentalhealthfighter]

This time she said there was a girl that took SN but decided to call the ambulance because she didn't actually want to die (survival instinct i guess) and she was in the intensive care with extreme pain for hours and still died.

I'm not sure if its actually SN. They're talking about 'Substance X' in the media and my mom thinks its SN.

So what do you think? Could this possibly be SN? Or is SN 100% peaceful?

 

[PinkSakura]

I can't say if it's SN or not, but SN is not 100% peaceful, it's poison

 

[mentalhealthfighter]

I can't say if it's SN or not, but SN is not 100% peaceful, it's poison

I can't tell either. I know its not completely peaceful but you should be able to take it.

 

[Amumu]

Ask her the source ffs...

Otherwise it's based on thin air.

 

[wereqryan]

she was in the intensive care with extreme pain for hours

Eh.. I've read that SN causes nausea, vomiting, tachycardia, breathlessness and dizziness, but never come across it causing "extreme pain". Maybe the pain was due to the hospital treatment?

 

[mentalhealthfighter]

Ask her the source ffs...

Otherwise it's based on thin air.

I did ask her the source. All it says is 'substance X'. I did a quick Google to find out if SN is substance X and it said no. So I guess its not, just wanted to see what you guys had to say about it.

Eh.. I've read that SN causes nausea, vomiting, tachycardia, breathlessness and dizziness, but never come across it causing "extreme pain". Maybe the pain was due to the hospital treatment?

That seems likely.

 

[Amumu]

I did ask her the source. All it says is 'substance X'. I did a quick Google to find out if SN is substance X and it said no. So I guess its not, just wanted to see what you guys had to say about it.

I see, then I think we can refute what your relative is saying.

Take care

 

[TriggerHappy]

I think the newspaper is calling it "substance x" as it doesn't want to disclose /advertise suicide methods.
Its possibly a responsibility / legal thing...

 

[BeansOfRequirement]

In most cases SN won't cause significant physical pain (exceptions exist, like those with ulcers and so on). The pain is most likely from having frantic doctors and nurses doing everything but administer methylene blue. Heard one man got a tube shoved up his urethra so that doctors could access the kidneys, for an example.

 

[fox_wannabe]

Your mom knows about sn? How?
Does she know you are suicidal?
Sn is peaceful when not interrupted. Otherwise we get in the way of things.

 

[mentalhealthfighter]

Your mom knows about sn? How?
Does she know you are suicidal?
Sn is peaceful when not interrupted. Otherwise we get in the way of things.

Yes, she knows. I talked about my suicidal thoughts with her.

 

[RN12]

no substance X is a term used by an dutch organisation that called it substance X. It's not SN it's Sodium Azide (NaN3)

People who want to end their lives with sodium azide also use Domperidom and paracetamol in addition to this Last Will Remedy.

Effect Sodium azide: Sodium azide prevents the oxygen uptake by the red blood cells, causing the brain cells and muscle cells to die. Reports show it causes a soft death, similar to carbon monoxide poisoning

There's a discussion going on for some time in the dutch media about this so called 'suicide powder'/Substance X

 

[Hopelessness2022]

Eh.. I've read that SN causes nausea, vomiting, tachycardia, breathlessness and dizziness, but never come across it causing "extreme pain". Maybe the pain was due to the hospital treatment?

I've read the same thing. It's uncomfortable at first but you fall asleep peacefully and pain free

 

[fox_wannabe]

Yes, she knows. I talked about my suicidal thoughts with her.

damn , I will never speak with my mom about this. She is already really scared about me. I feel like I am constantly monitored by her. I told her I am fed up but not that I am suicidal.

How did she take it?

 

[Seaghost]

The newspapers, google, Tv etc. have to say there was pain to prevent imitators.

 

[Apricity]

no substance X is a term used by an dutch organisation that called it substance X. It's not SN it's Sodium Azide (NaN3)

People who want to end their lives with sodium azide also use Domperidom and paracetamol in addition to this Last Will Remedy.

Effect Sodium azide: Sodium azide prevents the oxygen uptake by the red blood cells, causing the brain cells and muscle cells to die. Reports show it causes a soft death, similar to carbon monoxide poisoning

There's a discussion going on for some time in the dutch media about this so called 'suicide powder'/Substance X

No antidote for Azide either, so the hospital couldn't have helped anyway.

 

[fox_wannabe]

. Reports show it causes a soft death, similar to carbon monoxide poisoning

Is it true? I need to research it. I never heard of people using it since it's volatile nature, but sn sounds much safer option. I do not know how azide would react with gastric acid

 

[Apricity]

More about Azide here:

https://dereferer.me/?https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/15563650.2021.1906888

FYI: I used a dereferral service so it doesn't take you to the suicide hotline website.

 

[RN12]

Is it true? I need to research it. I never heard of people using it since it's volatile nature, but sn sounds much safer option. I do not know how azide would react with gastric acid

here you can research everything about it: https://nieuwedemocratie.com/informatie-laatste-wil-middel/

you have to translate it's a dutch website

 

[fox_wannabe]

here you can research everything about it: https://nieuwedemocratie.com/informatie-laatste-wil-middel/

you have to translate it's a dutch website

It was good read, thanks. Do you have sources on Sn from same website? I am really bad at navigating it

 

[RN12]

It was good read, thanks. Do you have sources on Sn from same website? I am really bad at navigating it

i'm sorry mate they only talk about substance x/SA. This was the most informative page from that website

other pages talk about ethics and politics/euthenasia