"Life appearing on earth was a cosmic miracle, you being born in this era was unlikely, cherish life"

[Exhausted546]

I mean true but that doesn't make my life any better. + It's not like you'd tell someone that's suffering that he should be grateful for even being alive.
I've been told these things ,while true, they did not motivate me. It's never coming from someone who's broken and suffering (which would give weight to the argument) ,i mainly hear it from ppl that are thriving

 

[Pluto]

 

[sanctionedusage]

i think about these odds all the time to piss myself off. 1 in a trillion and i still managed to be fucking born

 

[LigottiIsRight]

Something being highly unlikely doesn't make it good, that's the point whoever spawns this platitude doesn't seem to get.

 

[itsgone2]

It's never coming from someone who's broken and suffering (which would give weight to the argument) ,i mainly hear it from ppl that are thriving

Yeah like many others here, I'm being tortured. Living is torture. We're lucky??? No!!!
Go on watch people die.tv and see all the people getting brutally murdered by cartels. Lucky??? No!!
While I can't imagine having something like that happen from a perspective, this is pretty brutal too.
No we're not lucky life is a fing curse for most of us

 

[Ashborne_Quietus]

I never think about it

 

[Alpacachino]

All that applies only to the overwhelming majority. People like us are a very small percentage.

 

[FuneralCry]

No, to me existence will always be the most terrible, dreadful mistake that just causes all this harm, suffering and cruelty all for the sake of it, to me existence is just always an abomination that only ever tortures existing beings and it's so cruel and horrific to me how this is seen as a miracle as existence really is the problem.

The existence of life is the most devastating, terrible tragedy and the fact that humans cause all this dreadful pain and suffering that there was never a need for at all by forcing this onto others is such terrible extreme cruelty to me, to exist means to suffer and I wish I never suffered more than anything, there's just so much evil in existing, I don't see how it's a miracle that existing beings are tortured in agony every second rather it's the opposite and it's always torture to be conscious in this existence.

 

[ceelobling]

I hate words like that. I don't have to be here if I don't want to. It's like someone telling me what to do and they're telling me how to live my life and how to view my life. People who say things like that don't understand the struggles of life, it's just some generic thing to say about life.

 

[Captive_Mind515]

 

[Forever Sleep]

The argument works in reverse too. For those of us who experience life as a burden or curse- what catastrophically bad luck to have come alive- against those odds.

 

[srilankanbeyotch]

It used to be really special when there were only a few hundreds of our species on earth. now we're close to 10 billion and we are the real pest in this ecosystem.

 

[Tautochrome]

I mean, there's nothing objectively special about this configuration. Life emerged from and adapted to the conditions given, but it doesn't make the absence of this kind of life any worse. It's just the way biased creatures stuck within a system think about said system. They like to use big numbers, call things miracles to assign random stuff value and feel better about themselves

 

[Carryline]

Life was never a miracle for me... i just suffer ... only stupid people talk about miracle.. Miracle eould be if I could end it

 

[SanagiMezamete]

I don't get the point of that argument. The reasoning is poor to nonexistent. I guess that tracks with having come from such an unreasonable species though. "There is a one in a million chance to be struck by lightning, why are these people so unthankful they're all fried and burned up?! They must not know how unlikely it is! smh." It must be because they think life and existence are good by default. They cannot recognize that for some people life itself is akin to being struck by lightning and having 3rd degree burns all over your body.

I mean, there's nothing objectively special about this configuration. Life emerged from and adapted to the conditions given, but it doesn't make the absence of this kind of life any worse. It's just the way biased creatures stuck within a system think about said system. They like to use big numbers, call things miracles to assign random stuff value and feel better about themselves

That's a good way of articulating this phenomenon.

 

[OnceTheHappiestMan]

A flaw of this argument is that it makes the universe, life and ourselves a random, although highly improbable, event. Which is actually the same as saying these facts are meaningless, which it must probably is.

So, that we stay living or not are equally meaningless, and just a part of the chain of random and unlikely events.

No, life should have to be lived because we want to, because we feel we have reasons to do it, not because we have to keep the prize of a lottery we didn't buy the tickets for.