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miker

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May 10, 2025
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Is it wrong if I unalive myself?
 
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Sunderland

Sunderland

Wanderer
Feb 9, 2025
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Technically it's a crime to destroy government property, so yes
 
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Namelesa

Namelesa

Global Mod · Trapped in this Suffering
Sep 21, 2024
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No, its isn't wrong at all. We were forced into this life so its totally fair if you want to leave it at any time. We shouldn't be forced to suffer and we should be able to end that suffering through death or recovery.
 
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miker

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No, its isn't wrong at all. We were forced into this life so its totally fair if you want to leave it at any time. We shouldn't be forced to suffer and we should be able to end that suffering through death or recovery.
Thanks that's helpful
 
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IndictEvolution

IndictEvolution

VegAntinatalist
Jun 28, 2024
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Is it wrong if I unalive myself?
I'd say it depends. If you've got obligations like you've dragged others into this place, and now they rely on you, then yes, it is wrong. Another example of obligations that I think would make suicide unethical would be pets. You'd need to find them a good home first. But assuming you haven't made any huge messes here that still need cleaning up, there's no rational argument that you should be obligated to stay here if you deem it negative.
 
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miker

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I'd say it depends. If you've got obligations like you've dragged others into this place, and now they rely on you, then yes, it is wrong. Another example of obligations that I think would make suicide unethical would be pets. You'd need to find them a good home first. But assuming you haven't made any huge messes here that still need cleaning up, there's no rational argument that you should be obligated to stay here if you deem it negative.
Thanks, that makes me worry less
 
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SilentSadness

SilentSadness

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Feb 28, 2023
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First, you should unpack what you mean by "wrong". The only sensible definition for "wrong" is something causing you negative emotions, since everything you do including choosing a certain moral framework is motivated by emotions. The result is that what's wrong is subject to opinion. There is no objective standard of right or wrong to judge your potential suicide, so it's entirely up to you. My opinion is that suicide is an acceptable response to the unjust nature of this world that causes me a negative emotional reaction to begin with.
 
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miker

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First, you should unpack what you mean by "wrong". The only sensible definition for "wrong" is something causing you negative emotions, since everything you do including choosing a certain moral framework is motivated by emotions. The result is that what's wrong is subject to opinion. There is no objective standard of right or wrong to judge your potential suicide, so it's entirely up to you. My opinion is that suicide is an acceptable response to the unjust nature of this world that causes me a negative emotional reaction to begin with.
Thanks. Maybe it is ok after all
 
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IndictEvolution

IndictEvolution

VegAntinatalist
Jun 28, 2024
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First, you should unpack what you mean by "wrong". The only sensible definition for "wrong" is something causing you negative emotions, since everything you do including choosing a certain moral framework is motivated by emotions. The result is that what's wrong is subject to opinion. There is no objective standard of right or wrong to judge your potential suicide, so it's entirely up to you. My opinion is that suicide is an acceptable response to the unjust nature of this world that causes me a negative emotional reaction to begin with.
Must say I disagree with this idea. Seem to be a common opinion that "wrong" things are subjective, but I'd say harm is not entirely subjective. The specific experience is subjective, yes, but the idea of harm in general is an objective reality for an insane amount of sentient beings on this planet. I'm just saying the patterns formed by neurons in brains that cause what we call a bad experience is a concrete reality.
 
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