Method Insulin?

[ASM91]

I was just wondering why it is rare for anyone to suggest using insulin as a way of CTB?

I have family that are type 1 diabetic and I always think about stealing from their fridge if they went away or something!

Is there a reason this isn't readily suggested? I thought maybe cost or is it availability?

 

[Ash]

I don't know about using insulin but I do think that using other people's medication for any reason is always a bad idea. You don't know what the future holds and what will happen if they assume they'll have enough to last for X long but don't have it when they need it.

 

[let.me.let.go87]

If I was the diabetic? Sure. Why the hell not. But taking someone else's life saving medication to take my own life may result in another life lost. I wouldn't wanna be that person. The one who took someone else with me. The one who turned my suicide into a selfish measure and made the anti-Suiciders correct. Don't be that person. You don't know what taking medication from someone else could cause to the other person. You could kill someone else along the way.

 

[Tesha]

Interesting fact (or maybe not)…. You can legally get insulin from UK pharmacies without prescription. Not all pharmacies will do it, but if you require insulin for your dog and you're now on holiday and have left it at home / need an emergency supply, especially if you visit when your vets are closed, they can lawfully dispense it. They will only dispense the minimum amount required though.

 

[locked*n*loaded]

Interesting fact (or maybe not)…. You can legally get insulin from UK pharmacies without prescription. Not all pharmacies will do it, but if you require insulin for your dog and you're now on holiday and have left it at home / need an emergency supply, especially if you visit when your vets are closed, they can lawfully dispense it. They will only dispense the minimum amount required though.

I think it's like this in the US now, too, not for dogs, but for human use. But, I think it's only for one very specific type of insulin, the "older" one that has been around for a long time, not the more "modern" ones.

 

[rozeske]

I've thought about it, would just need to reach into the fridge but it would be the most evil thing I could ever do to the owner, guilt and reminder every time they use it and all. I don't believe I'd even rest in peace after that.

 

[astr4]

if you gave them enough money to get a refill then this isn't a bad idea. i just don't know anyone who takes insulin unfortunately.

 

[sancta-simplicitas]

Probably because it's hard to get if you don't have a prescription. I doubt it exists on any black market (though I could be wrong) and stealing from someone with diabetes is just cruel. That condition can do grotesque things if not treated properly.

As a side note, I had a diabetic cat who passed away due to complications. His diabetes was well-managed but he got recurrent UTI's through out all his life with no known cause and the antibiotics stopped working, which in turn made the insulin stopped working. I had several shots left, more than enough to CTB. I can't remember exactly what happened to it, but I kind of regret not using it on myself. Albeit, the absolute last thing I want to die to is the smell of insulin. It'll haunt me forever.

 

[Esokabat]

I wish people would focus on the technical part of this, and not the fact that you are taking it away from family members or roommates or whatnot. Insulin is much easier to get in the world that either SN or N, so if it is technically viable, getting it is not the hard part. Latin America, Asia, etc. Also, I watched a documentary where someone tried to kill their roommate with insulin two or three times and they ordered it on the dark net. The reason their roommate survived was because they somehow always ended up in a hospital. But if I remember correctly, they passed out and next thing they remembered was being in the hospital hooked up to IV. So people, can we keep our eyes on the prize. Insulin is available in Asia, in Latin America, online pharmacies, dark net, vet pharmacies, there is no need to steal it from your relatives for god sake.
So does anyone actually have info on the technical part?

I wish people would focus on the technical part of this, and not the fact that you are taking it away from family members or roommates or whatnot. Insulin is much easier to get in the world that either SN or N, so if it is technically viable, getting it is not the hard part. Latin America, Asia, etc. Also, I watched a documentary where someone tried to kill their roommate with insulin two or three times and they ordered it on the dark net. The reason their roommate survived was because they somehow always ended up in a hospital. But if I remember correctly, they passed out and next thing they remembered was being in the hospital hooked up to IV. So people, can we keep our eyes on the prize. Insulin is available in Asia, in Latin America, online pharmacies, dark net, vet pharmacies, there is no need to steal it from your relatives for god sake.
So does anyone actually have info on the technical part?

Plus you can travel freely with it, no chance of customs problems, crossing borders, flying, welfare checks.

 

[ADHDloser]

This is interesting. I wonder what would be a lethal dosage and how deadly it is. Would it be painful or not? A quick search shows that shaking, sweating and seizures may occur with overdose. Not sure how long it would take for a patient to die tho.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3354941/ This might be useful for anyone considering insulin.

 

[Someone123]

I was just wondering why it is rare for anyone to suggest using insulin as a way of CTB?

I have family that are type 1 diabetic and I always think about stealing from their fridge if they went away or something!

Is there a reason this isn't readily suggested? I thought maybe cost or is it availability?

That's exactly it, cost and availabillity, but it can be a very effective method if you do research and know the quantity to take, i wish i had access to that method, it's more peaceful than most, and easier than most. They can get it replaced, in my opinion not a big concern unless money is really tight.

 

[reem]

This is what I came here for. Does anyone medical (or diabetic) want to weigh in on fast acting versus long lasting insulin, appropriate dosing, etc…?

As a heads up, diabetic seizures are possible. Easy? Yes. Peaceful? Maybe not. Readily accessible? Yes, in North America it is. But, it will cost you.

 

[Raven_Nevermore]

I wish people would focus on the technical part of this, and not the fact that you are taking it away from family members or roommates or whatnot. Insulin is much easier to get in the world that either SN or N, so if it is technically viable, getting it is not the hard part. Latin America, Asia, etc. Also, I watched a documentary where someone tried to kill their roommate with insulin two or three times and they ordered it on the dark net. The reason their roommate survived was because they somehow always ended up in a hospital. But if I remember correctly, they passed out and next thing they remembered was being in the hospital hooked up to IV. So people, can we keep our eyes on the prize. Insulin is available in Asia, in Latin America, online pharmacies, dark net, vet pharmacies, there is no need to steal it from your relatives for god sake.
So does anyone actually have info on the technical part?

Plus you can travel freely with it, no chance of customs problems, crossing borders, flying, welfare checks.

I remember that story. That roommate's name was Janie. She also tried poisoning her roommate with MRSA, then was going to try VRSA except FBI (or another agency) intercepted.