I sampled SN this morning

[treetop.grazer]

Hi everyone,

Well as I have no access to antimetics or anything else beyond using ginger to try to stabilise my stomach before I ctb, I decided to sample my SN this morning. Yes could have resulted in my CTB, but hey, that's why I have it anyway isn't it.

So I mixed about half a teaspoon (and then promptly re-sealed the SN in an airtight bag and again in a airtight box) with some water this morning and set off on a walk. It was about 100ml of water and it did taste very salty. I didn't gulp it all down in one, sipping it whilst sucking on some mints to help with the taste.

I'd not eaten anything since lunchtime yesterday either.

So anyway, no real effects until about 40 minutes in, I start to feel very light headed, check my watch and heart rate was normal (60ish) and breathing didn't seem difficult. All was well until I went into my local coffee shop to get a coffee, suddenly I felt very light headed, very flushed and very weak. The Barista must have thought I was pissed I could barely hold a conversation whilst she made my coffee.

As I walked out, my vision was affected, things were very very bright and I felt drunk, but not my usual happy drunk way, more like a really bad hangover. I manage to get home and look in the mirror, the colour has gone from my lips, I took some selfies to compare with other photos and definitely loss of colour. Has some mild tingling in my fingers. I bent down to take my shoes off and as I stood back up for really light headed and had to sit down.

30 minutes have now passed since then and effects are wearing off.

But now at least I know what to expect, next time it'll be for real.

 

[Dante_]

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Im glad you're okay but OP, please understand the risk this carries in general.

 

[treetop.grazer]

PSA - DO NOT test-ingest SN

As users are aware, this platform advocates for personal bodily autonomy and supports individuals' rational choices regarding how they wish to live or die. However, there have been recent posts from users who have been "testing" their sodium nitrite (SN) supply—not for the purpose of an actual...

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Im glad you're okay but OP, please understand the risk this carries in general.

Thank you, oh I was fully aware how it could have ended, it's my intention anyway to CTB with this method soon so whether it happened today or not wasn't really going to change matters but thank you for your concern. I'm now just waiting for the right day where I can go to my special spot to with nobody around.

 

[FishRain3469]

Yikes, sounds pretty intense from half a spoon. Hope you're doing alright so far.

 

[treetop.grazer]

Yikes, sounds pretty intense from half a spoon. Hope you're doing alright so far.

Yeah, been sat at my PC laying games and working since posting and all effects seem to have gone now. Thank you

 

[Dot]

 

[treetop.grazer]

Tbh, why not? If I'm intending this to be my CBT method anyway, didn't really make a difference if the day was today or in a week or two. It was a spur of the moment thing as I was moving my SN from my hiding place at home to my car, had a bottle of water with me and thought, wth, let's try this

 

[Dot]

Tbh, why not? If I'm intending this to be my CBT method anyway, didn't really make a difference if the day was today or in a week or two. It was a spur of the moment thing as I was moving my SN from my hiding place at home to my car, had a bottle of water with me and thought, wth, let's try this

Yolo / yodo

 

[gothbird]

That was incredibly dumb.

For other people out there that aren't OP: sampling SN like it's a taste test is not only reckless, it's also a great way to build up anxiety around the real attempt. You also risk desensitisation probably, and if you'd hit a higher dose than you thought, you'd have ended up in A&E or worse.

In the future OP, if you're serious about using it, you take the full dose all at once and not sip, dissolved completely in cold water, after a fast (I know you said you hadn't eaten since yesterday but most protocols call for longer like 48 hours) and with proper antiemetics. Ginger won't cut it. If you vomit the dose, it can fail.

Now that it's been opened, your main concern is moisture!!! SN is hygroscopic, meaning it pulls water from the air and degrades fast if not stored right. What you need to do now is put it in a clean dry airtight container. Add a silica gel desiccant packet inside the container, not in direct contact with the SN, but in the same space. Keep it in a cool, dark, dry place in your car like not near a window or on the dash (not that I think you would lol).

If you're not ready, that's fine. But don't treat it like something to "test out." You deserve better than that OP. Sorry to go mum mode on you.

 

[treetop.grazer]

That was incredibly dumb.

For other people out there that aren't OP: sampling SN like it's a taste test is not only reckless, it's also a great way to build up anxiety around the real attempt. You also risk desensitisation probably, and if you'd hit a higher dose than you thought, you'd have ended up in A&E or worse.

In the future OP, if you're serious about using it, you take the full dose all at once and not sip, dissolved completely in cold water, after a fast (I know you said you hadn't eaten since yesterday but most protocols call for longer like 48 hours) and with proper antiemetics. Ginger won't cut it. If you vomit the dose, it can fail.

Now that it's been opened, your main concern is moisture!!! SN is hygroscopic, meaning it pulls water from the air and degrades fast if not stored right. What you need to do now is put it in a clean dry airtight container. Add a silica gel desiccant packet inside the container, not in direct contact with the SN, but in the same space. Keep it in a cool, dark, dry place in your car like not near a window or on the dash (not that I think you would lol).

If you're not ready, that's fine. But don't treat it like something to "test out." You deserve better than that OP. Sorry to go mum mode on you.

Really can't argue with that, not saying I was right, but really, had nothing to loose.

Good advice on the storage and I have kept it in a dark boot of my car with silica gel in the box as well so should keep for a week no problems.


Alas it antiemetics aren't easy to come by here in the UK and ginger is as good as I can get my hands on tbh. But I take your point and the next time will be the full dose (but still lots of ginger unless someone knows some it antimetics in the UK)

 

[Dante_]

Really can't argue with that, not saying I was right, but really, had nothing to loose.

Good advice on the storage and I have kept it in a dark boot of my car with silica gel in the box as well so should keep for a week no problems.


Alas it antiemetics aren't easy to come by here in the UK and ginger is as good as I can get my hands on tbh. But I take your point and the next time will be the full dose (but still lots of ginger unless someone knows some it antimetics in the UK)

Its Okay op, all of that has been said is meant with genuine care and concern. Although I do understand being in that place, with nothing to lose however what matters is that you're feeling better.

 

[NoIdeaForAUsername]

damn, so much attention. I think i will do my own SN test and write a topic about that, so i will get all of those eyes on me

 

[Dqope]

but most protocols call for longer like 48 hours

Where did you see more than 48h? There is a post made about this a few weeks ago and your still saying things that could be counterproductive... Why do you think you would need to fast for such extreme periods of time. Even a lot of those scummy and pseudo science programs on how to get rid of cancer don't say that you should fast for so long...

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[pthnrdnojvsc]

damn, so much attention. I think i will do my own SN test and write a topic about that, so i will get all of those eyes on me

what's temporary fleeting attention from anonymous internet users going to get you ? will that matter in 100 years? in 500 years? in a trillion years?

 

[gothbird]

Where did you see more than 48h? There is a post made about this a few weeks ago and your still saying things that could be counterproductive... Why do you think you would need to fast for such extreme periods of time. Even a lot of those scummy and pseudo science programs on how to get rid of cancer don't say that you should fast for so long...

PSA: You're Probably Fasting Too Much

Disclaimer: I am not a medical professional and this should not be construed as medical advice. I've been seeing a significant number of people posting their protocols and plans for SN, and invariably many of them have included lengthy periods of fasting. The most common number I have been...

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People started fasting longer not because the PPH tells them to, but because vomiting is one of the main reasons SN fails and yeah the fear of that alone can seriously mess with your mindset. I agree with @quietwoods post and also that people should use the PPH, Stan's, and Vizzy's guides as a solid baseline. But SN prep isn't one size fits all. You have to work with your own body and what you know about it.

I've seen a lot of users with emetophobia or chronic GI issues (gastroparesis, reflux, etc. etc.) say that even a 12 hour fast didn't feel like enough, either physically or mentally. So they stretched it to like 24 hours, 36, even up to 48. Because it helped them feel more in control. Those longer fasts are definitely outliers.

Personally, I'm planning for a 2 day fast when my time comes because I've got gut issues and I know how unpredictable my stomach can be. It's just personal risk management. If you're fine with 12 hours and your stomach holds up? That's ideal. But for others, fasting longer helps ease the anxiety. It's not counterproductive if it keeps someone from panicking mid attempt or throwing up the dose.
I mean, some people raw dog SN with zero prep and no issues. Others need a whole checklist to feel okay. It's all about comfort, especially when you're facing something this serious. If fasting longer helps someone feel safer, then that's valid too I think.

I think my use of "most" was incorrect in that post! So that I definitely agree with you on.

 

[quietwoods]

People started fasting longer not because the PPH tells them to, but because vomiting is one of the main reasons SN fails and yeah the fear of that alone can seriously mess with your mindset. I agree with @quietwoods post and also that people should use the PPH, Stan's, and Vizzy's guides as a solid baseline. But SN prep isn't one size fits all. You have to work with your own body and what you know about it.

I've seen a lot of users with emetophobia or chronic GI issues (gastroparesis, reflux, etc. etc.) say that even a 12 hour fast didn't feel like enough, either physically or mentally. So they stretched it to like 24 hours, 36, even up to 48. Because it helped them feel more in control. Those longer fasts are definitely outliers.

Personally, I'm planning for a 2 day fast when my time comes because I've got gut issues and I know how unpredictable my stomach can be. It's just personal risk management. If you're fine with 12 hours and your stomach holds up? That's ideal. But for others, fasting longer helps ease the anxiety. It's not counterproductive if it keeps someone from panicking mid attempt or throwing up the dose.
I mean, some people raw dog SN with zero prep and no issues. Others need a whole checklist to feel okay. It's all about comfort, especially when you're facing something this serious. If fasting longer helps someone feel safer, then that's valid too I think.

I think my use of "most" was incorrect in that post! So that I definitely agree with you on.

I understand some people have issues, hence why I labelled mine "You're probably". I've agreed in another post with the SN bible's assertion that people know their bodies better than anyone else.

The problem is long-term fasting increases nausea, irritates the stomach lining, and can cause reflux. Most people, even with gastroparesis, still empty their stomach by the 12 hour mark, meaning there is nothing left to vomit up. Past that, you're just increasing the negative effects of fasting hour by hour. Why I said counterproductive.

If it truly lowers your anxiety levels in a way that overcomes the negative effects of fasting, go for it. I'm not gonna argue with someone else's body and mind. I just don't see how in 95%-99% of cases it would make medical sense.

My goal was to not just have people blindly fast longer because bigger equals better.

 

[gothbird]

I understand some people have issues, hence why I labelled mine "You're probably". I've agreed in another post with the SN bible's assertion that people know their bodies better than anyone else.

The problem is long-term fasting increases nausea, irritates the stomach lining, and can cause reflux. Most people, even with gastroparesis, still empty their stomach by the 12 hour mark, meaning there is nothing left to vomit up. Past that, you're just increasing the negative effects of fasting hour by hour. Why I said counterproductive.

If it truly lowers your anxiety levels in a way that overcomes the negative effects of fasting, go for it. I'm not gonna argue with someone else's body and mind. I just don't see how in 95%-99% of cases it would make medical sense.

My goal was to not just have people blindly fast longer because bigger equals better.

Just wanted to say that tagging you wasn't meant in a bad way at all by the way. You, the PPH, all of the protocol resources are solid and remain correct for a majority of people. I was just adding my two cents on why some people might handle things differently!

 

[Chuunibyou]

thank you for sharing. although I agree with other users that this was risky, what's done is done and I think having these kinds of "low dose" testimonials is still interesting