I hate the notion that having kids is something that must happen

[LastDayOnEarth]

Not only that but as cruel as it sounds, not everyone deserves to have kids, not everybody deserves to bring life into the world. Some people are failures and should never be given the chance to reproduce.

In different times, not everyone would be given the chance, I wish my parents never had a chance to have me

 

[starboy2k]

dumbasses can have a child, but it takes intelligent and nurturing parents to raise them in the fuckass world

 

[SDB]

dumbasses can have a child, but it takes intelligent and nurturing parents to raise them in the fuckass world

Brilliant parents can produce offspring bad parents can make amazing offspring its kore complex than that

 

[Dejected 55]

It should always be personal choice. Some people have kids when they shouldn't... other people don't have kids but would have been great parents. Often you can't even tell, because people who seem like decent people are shit at raising kids... and people you might think of as shit people actually do a good job of raising kids. Nobody knows... but we do know if everyone stopped having kids, then humanity dies out in a couple of generations. And the less people who have kids, the more likely the shit parents are the ones who have them on average.

 

[ginadu]

I didn't want them. I didn't have them

 

[Bishop]

Your body your choice

 

[witchcraft]

Childhood was the last time I was happy. Yes, I am aware even that is fortunate, not a universally shared experience.

I don't think I will ever be happy again. I feel as though I was set-up, primed for insurmountable disappointment. For a while I was inculcated by the responsibility / duty / find-your-purpose grifters, until I discovered that it simply wasn't sustainable. I either didn't realize it or repressed the realization, but responsibility / duty / purpose does not substitute happiness, nor did it provide me with happiness. Burned out on that.

The closest I've got to feeling like I did in childhood was while I was in university. That's because it was actually an insulated environment, even if it's dressed to seem more mature or grown-up.

If life were a masquerade, I've seen behind the mask of enough people, overheard enough whispers in private to know what people are really like, and what this is really all about. I cannot unknow it, I cannot unsee it.

The idealist in me wishes that I'd have kids and they would grow up successful, adapt readily to the changes of maturing and have an overall good time in the world. But there's no way to guarantee this. You can try your hardest to be the best parent you possibly can, to not repeat the mistakes of your own parents or the other parents around you, and your children can still end up like me or other people on this forum.

dumbasses can have a child, but it takes intelligent and nurturing parents to raise them in the fuckass world

Yup, plenty of people having kids that shouldn't. Plenty of seriously abusive and manipulative people in relationships. Thoughtless, careless people having eleventy children, which they expect to raise each other or be raised by the village, the nanny state, and an educational system that is more like a daycare where very little learning happens.

 

[FuneralCry]

It truly is so terrible, I see it as so terrible and cruel how humans cause all this dreadful unnecessary torture by imposing this existence that there was never a need for at all with no limit as to how much agony one can feel.

This existence should just never be imposed and it's the most terrible tragedy how it was especially as never suffering at all was perfection, to suffer in this torturous, dreadful existence truly is an abomination and I'll just always see it as a mistake to suffer in this existence, all that existence ever does is cause suffering, it's so horrible how humans actually choose to force the pain and torture of existing onto others.

 

[darksouls]

society is perverse and disgusting,
I would never bring children into this sick world

 

[Pluto]

 

[pthnrdnojvsc]

warning I talk about pain and torture in the post below. but this is reality and I didn't create pain but life the brain and those that impose life do create pain

picture red hot glowing coils on a stove 1000 degrees Fahrenheit

what's worth placing ur hand on those coils and holding it there 10 seconds?

to me nothing

think about accidentally touching an extremely hot stove. u pulled back instantly the pain was so bad.

your hand was in contact with the hot stove for only 1/4 of a second.

but imagine if you couldn't pull back. if ur hand was forcefully held for 3 seconds, 10 seconds, a minute? the pain would increase exponentially every 1/4 second

now visualize ur whole skin placed on a scalding hot steel griddle as in the brazen bull torture, 1000 degrees Fahrenheit

what is worth even 3 seconds of that extreme torture?

is watching a video or eating food worth even 10 seconds of such intolerable pain? I don't think so . what about 10 minutes whites is the same about of time . so pain outweighs pleasure by many times . to me by a billion times.

to me nothing is worth even 1 second of that torture

its the brain creating this excruciating pain

how can something be good or desired that can cause u to suffer such unbearable pain

people think they can imagine how bad the brazen Bull torture is but they can't

pain is a billion times worse than people know or remember , including me

what right goes anyone have to impose a torture chamber = the brain onto any human? or to gaslight or brainwash others into doing so.

The Brazen Bull: A Cruel Instrument of Ancient Greek Torture and Execution

BY THE ARCHAEOLOGIST EDITOR GROUP

www.thearchaeologist.org

imo I don't know who could be happy if they knew the truth about how bad pain is . and how one could fall into a trap of unbearable pain. add to that I'm a constantly needy slave , a brain which is a torture chamber, an animal that has to work all the time only to exist under threat of extreme torture, just a bag of cells but can suffer pain so bad it's a trillion times worse than I can imagine