Help How unpleasant will SN with no Benzo to ease anxiety/pain?

[pedro3211]

I know this is probably impossible to answer but I don't have access to benzos and I wondering how painful it is

 

[unluckysadness]

Can you ask your doctor or a psychiatrist ? Benzos are usually quite easy to get.
But SN without benzos is not recommended at all (awful death according to what I've read). Even with benzos it's not really peaceful according to the PPH 2025 (peacefulness 6/10 with the right protocol). You'll need anti emetics too, and maybe propranolol for the heart racing which is really an unpleasant felling.

 

[Macedonian1987]

If you manage to obtain benzos it is very important to know what is the right dose for you. By right dose i mean a dose in which you will be very sedated, like being heavily drunk, but still coherent enough to know what you are doing. You don't want to fall a sleep mid-protocol.

 

[tooafraidtodiez]

I don't know how painful it is but it may result in a longer duration of losing conciousness. Benzo is not a must, several people succeed without it you can watch at watchpeopledie tv. Antiemetics are a must and painkiller may help with discomfort. If you want to acquire benzo, you can try telling your doctor that you have severe depression and panic attacks they may prescribe you one.

 

[Macedonian1987]

I don't know how painful it is but it may result in a longer duration of losing conciousness. Benzo is not a must, several people succeed without it you can watch at watchpeopledie tv. Antiemetics are a must and painkiller may help with discomfort. If you want to acquire benzo, you can try telling your doctor that you have severe depression and panic attacks they may prescribe you one.

I lied to my doctor that I have anxiety that causes me panic attacks and he prescribed me Xanax. Xanax does wonders for my fear. I did a test-drive of this medications and it did wonders for my SI.

 

[ilovecats1]

im curious about this as well

 

[pedro3211]

My doctors don't want to prescribe me benzos due to the addiction risk.

Can you ask your doctor or a psychiatrist ? Benzos are usually quite easy to get.
But SN without benzos is not recommended at all (awful death according to what I've read). Even with benzos it's not really peaceful according to the PPH 2025 (peacefulness 6/10 with the right protocol). You'll need anti emetics too, and maybe propranolol for the heart racing which is really an unpleasant felling.

 

[BradGuy123]

Joe Winko filmed himself taking SN. Google his name and you should find it. It my opinion it's not as peaceful as some people have said.

 

[pedro3211]

Joe Winko filmed himself taking SN. Google his name and you should find it. It my opinion it's not as peaceful as some people have said.

Just watched, looks pretty unpleasant but I don't think I have any other options really.

 

[DeathSweetDeath]

Most of the goodbye posts from members who took SN that I read between last November and now… most did not have benzos.

 

[Dawns]

same i'm thinking about taking clonidine or seroquel instead

 

[linuxbois]

It's frustrating that SN is promoted so often despite not being very peaceful.

 

[Lucifer’s Son]

It's frustrating that SN is promoted so often despite not being very peaceful.

Yup. It's a sure fire way to ctb, so I guess the idea that it's peaceful is just a cope to help people go through with it.

 

[Fahrenheit Fox]

It's frustrating that SN is promoted so often despite not being very peaceful.

Certainty matters more than comfort. The reason it is recommended here so much is because it is in line with the main point of this forum, that being choice.

 

[Lucifer’s Son]

Certainty matters more than comfort. The reason it is recommended here so much is because it is in line with the main point of this forum, that being choice.

Agreed. I do have a limit of how much pain I'm willing to endure, but I also know I don't have access to anything that would make it perfectly peaceful and pain-free and so I've gotta accept that part of the package. And besides, we're all eventually gonna die of something anyway, and there will probably be some level of pain in that regardless.

 

[tooafraidtodiez]

It's frustrating that SN is promoted so often despite not being very peaceful.

It's not promoted because it's peaceful but rather ease of access and lethality. Hanging requires knowledge and privacy, so does CO and Exit bag not everyone has access to them. Jumping and Gun are really scary and Drowning might be too painful. So it's not a surprise that SN is a popular method.

 

[dirkw83]

Two things... Not peaceful compared to what? Nembutal? you can't get that anymore. Compared to most suicide options, SN isn't brutal.

The other thing... it depends a lot on how fast you pass out. There were definitely forum users here who passed out really quickly and in their last messages they didn't seem to be in much pain at all. I'm talking users in the last six months & more recent.

That said I don't want to encourage anyone to take SN... That's not the point.

 

[Lucifer’s Son]

Two things... Not peaceful compared to what? Nembutal? you can't get that anymore. Compared to most suicide options, SN isn't brutal.

The other thing... it depends a lot on how fast you pass out. There were definitely forum users here who passed out really quickly and in their last messages they didn't seem to be in much pain at all. I'm talking users in the last six months & more recent.

That said I don't want to encourage anyone to take SN... That's not the point.

AI told me that you experience air hunger, which I really don't want to go through. I know how awful it feels from when I tried suffocating with a bag without any sort of drug to impair my subjective experience. Genuinely one of the top two worst incidents of physical pain I've gone through. But I don't know how to go about finding out if that's true or not.

 

[E5463656]

Can you ask your doctor or a psychiatrist ? Benzos are usually quite easy to get.
But SN without benzos is not recommended at all (awful death according to what I've read). Even with benzos it's not really peaceful according to the PPH 2025 (peacefulness 6/10 with the right protocol). You'll need anti emetics too, and maybe propranolol for the heart racing which is really an unpleasant felling.

Is it peaceful if you get everything?

 

[dirkw83]

AI told me that you experience air hunger, which I really don't want to go through. I know how awful it feels from when I tried suffocating with a bag without any sort of drug to impair my subjective experience. Genuinely one of the top two worst incidents of physical pain I've gone through. But I don't know how to go about finding out if that's true or not.

Yes that is definitely a possibility there was a forum user a few months back (maybe longer) who took SN whose last messages were something along the lines of "I can't breathe". It was pretty harrowing to read.

 

[Macedonian1987]

AI told me that you experience air hunger, which I really don't want to go through. I know how awful it feels from when I tried suffocating with a bag without any sort of drug to impair my subjective experience. Genuinely one of the top two worst incidents of physical pain I've gone through. But I don't know how to go about finding out if that's true or not.

Ai is wrong. I talked to many SN survivors on the sasu forum and nobody said that felt huge air hunger.

 

[unluckysadness]

Is it peaceful if you get everything?

The problem with SN is that some people will say it's peaceful and other will say it's awful. To me, benzos and other meds are 100% necessarely. Keep in mind that even natural death can be painful. What I read about side effects is : vomiting, shortness of breath, rapid heart rate, dizziness, eyes rolling, confusion, and so many things...
It also depends of the fasting before SN, your weight, your health condition in general. It seems like a lottery. But other methods are not better. Only barbiturates can pretend to be peaceful (and maybe Fentanyl).

 

[linuxbois]

Yes that is definitely a possibility there was a forum user a few months back (maybe longer) who took SN whose last messages were something along the lines of "I can't breathe". It was pretty harrowing to read.

That sounds like it passes the threshold for brutal. Might be less brutal than other contemporary methods, but it seems like a prolonged and uncomfortable way to spend one's last moments. I just feel like it should be clearly stated when people suggest it.

But other methods are not better. Only barbiturates can pretend to be peaceful (and maybe Fentanyl).

What do you mean by pretend to be?

 

[E5463656]

The problem with SN is that some people will say it's peaceful and other will say it's awful. To me, benzos and other meds are 100% necessarely. Keep in mind that even natural death can be painful. What I read about side effects is : vomiting, shortness of breath, rapid heart rate, dizziness, eyes rolling, confusion, and so many things...
It also depends of the fasting before SN, your weight, your health condition in general. It seems like a lottery. But other methods are not better. Only barbiturates can pretend to be peaceful (and maybe Fentanyl).

so sn is the best

 

[Lucifer’s Son]

Two completely contradictory answers. Lovely.

 

[linuxbois]

Two things... Not peaceful compared to what? Nembutal? you can't get that anymore. Compared to most suicide options, SN isn't brutal.

What's the status of Nembutal today?

 

[Ultimatefighter]

I don't know how painful it is but it may result in a longer duration of losing conciousness. Benzo is not a must, several people succeed without it you can watch at watchpeopledie tv. Antiemetics are a must and painkiller may help with discomfort. If you want to acquire benzo, you can try telling your doctor that you have severe depression and panic attacks they may prescribe you one.

What about RC benzos
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Ai is wrong. I talked to many SN survivors on the sasu forum and nobody said that felt huge air hunger.

 

[Aflame5926]

What's the status of Nembutal today?

very close to become a fairytail

 

[unluckysadness]

so sn is the best

I'd say it's the least bad option. But the protocol must be strictly followed.

 

[linuxbois]

I'd say it's the least bad option. But the protocol must be strictly followed.

What's the community's take on Swiss VAD where they inject N?