Help How unpleasant will SN with no Benzo to ease anxiety/pain?

[unluckysadness]

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What's the community's take on Swiss VAD where they inject N?

I'll ask doctors from Athanasios Switerland for myself. I'm sure I'm eligible because I have too much severe health issues. I just know some right to die organizations can inject N or you can drink it (awful taste but you can mix it with another drink). Just knowing it costs at least CHF 10 000 for the whole process.

 

[linuxbois]

Saw a few bad posts on Reddit about Athanasios :( . Then they made a fake account and tried to shill with contradictory stories.

 

[ilovecats1]

Joe Winko filmed himself taking SN. Google his name and you should find it. It my opinion it's not as peaceful as some people have said.

this doesnt look too bad for me. i mean he drank wine i think and that was what he puked and i dont think he even had a fasting/antiemetic protocol. this is more peaceful than some partial suspension videos ive seen honestly in my opinion,

 

[Live_Life55]

It's frustrating that SN is promoted so often despite not being very peaceful.

Yes I don't know why people wouldn't first try with fentanyl

 

[thesighofleaves]

That sounds like it passes the threshold for brutal. Might be less brutal than other contemporary methods, but it seems like a prolonged and uncomfortable way to spend one's last moments. I just feel like it should be clearly stated when people suggest it.

What do you mean by pretend to be?

Compared to what then?

It's clear to me that most of you are either very young or have never suffered chronic illness or chronic pain of any sort. Unless you're one of the lucky few to die in your sleep or get nembutal or a gas setup, your death will be some kind of unpleasant, period.

For context: Chronic monthly hormonal pain can be excruciating. Heck, just take a look through the endometriosis and PCOS subreddits. The uterine fibroid subreddits. The amount of pain people regularly go through on a two week basis is absurd.

If you live until old age, you will have most likely have some sort of chronic pain as well. Arthritis, cancer, nerve pain caused by diabetes, god knows what else.

SN sounds uncomfortable at worst. But as someone who deals regularly with chronic pain, it seems like a cakewalk in comparison. Especially if benzos can be found. It sounds privileged as hell seeing people here complain about a few minutes heart racing and air hunger and dizziness. Like it legitimately pisses me off so fucking much.

Like I don't want people to deal with chronic pain but my god. Fucking hell man.

 

[Lucifer’s Son]

Compared to what then?

It's clear to me that most of you are either very young or have never suffered chronic illness or chronic pain of any sort. Unless you're one of the lucky few to die in your sleep or get nembutal or a gas setup, your death will be some kind of unpleasant, period.

For context: Chronic monthly hormonal pain can be excruciating. Heck, just take a look through the endometriosis and PCOS subreddits. The uterine fibroid subreddits. The amount of pain people regularly go through on a two week basis is absurd.

If you live until old age, you will have most likely have some sort of chronic pain as well. Arthritis, cancer, nerve pain caused by diabetes, god knows what else.

SN sounds uncomfortable at worst. But as someone who deals regularly with chronic pain, it seems like a cakewalk in comparison. Especially if benzos can be found. It sounds privileged as hell seeing people here complain about a few minutes heart racing and air hunger and dizziness. Like it legitimately pisses me off so fucking much.

Like I don't want people to deal with chronic pain but my god. Fucking hell man.

Put a plastic bag over your head and keep it on, or drown yourself, to see how "uncomfortable at worst" air hunger is.

Oh, and I deal with chronic pain too (and it's not limited to two weeks a month.). So thanks for assuming I'm just super privileged.

 

[hdead]

Compared to what then?

It's clear to me that most of you are either very young or have never suffered chronic illness or chronic pain of any sort. Unless you're one of the lucky few to die in your sleep or get nembutal or a gas setup, your death will be some kind of unpleasant, period.

For context: Chronic monthly hormonal pain can be excruciating. Heck, just take a look through the endometriosis and PCOS subreddits. The uterine fibroid subreddits. The amount of pain people regularly go through on a two week basis is absurd.

If you live until old age, you will have most likely have some sort of chronic pain as well. Arthritis, cancer, nerve pain caused by diabetes, god knows what else.

SN sounds uncomfortable at worst. But as someone who deals regularly with chronic pain, it seems like a cakewalk in comparison. Especially if benzos can be found. It sounds privileged as hell seeing people here complain about a few minutes heart racing and air hunger and dizziness. Like it legitimately pisses me off so fucking much.

Like I don't want people to deal with chronic pain but my god. Fucking hell man.

I don't understand why you would get so annoyed by this. It's not strange to me at all that people would want a peaceful way out. The fact that you're comparing your own pain to those of others on this forum reminds me of today's woke culture.

I feel sorry for you that you have to deal with the amount of pain you are dealing with. I do relate, I'm in my 30s and have osteoporosis, arhtritis and fybromyalgia. The physical discomfort S U C K S. But, the mental struggle in my opinion is much worse. I can deal with physical pain, the MH issues are what crushes me.

Having said that, the idea of doing SN still scares me. When you're taking a step to CTB by drinking that salty juice and have the potential of sitting there with the symptomps for 5, 10 maybe 20 minutes (potentially more) knowing you're about to die, SI and fear will strike without a doubt. I think compassion has more of a place on this forum than who is dealing with the worst issues and why they should or should not be worried about an uncomfortable way of dying.

To conclude; I feel everyone and anyone deserves a peaceful way out and I understand any and everybody for their concerns with this method. Brutal might not be the right word, but uncomfortable might be understating the fact.

I hope you come to terms with your anger towards other people, young or old, that have found their way to SaSu. I'd personally appreciate to see less of this hostile type of commenting towards people searching for a method and conversing about the symptoms and potential discomfort.

 

[tooafraidtodiez]

Suffocating is a B. I don't feel much pain at that moment but in terms of discomfort it felt like having severe headache+stomachache combined together

 

[DignifiedGrave]

From all ive heard it seems to depend. I actually have sn as my second choice in case hanging doesnt work out for me. Some people here may call that backwards. Everyone has their own preferences and backups depending on their conditions and what they can do.
For me.
Having sn stashed away and a some metoclopramide is viable and hanging is already something I have setup and ready to go at any moment. I also know that either of these could potentially cause me immense discomfort. Personally, I wanna try to hang because my rehearsals show me that blacking out while hanging is fast, and midst uncomfortable at worst. Sn being probably less comfortable but more certain. But then. Im also willing to sink a blade into my femoral artery and vein and transect them if thats all I had.

 

[swankysoup]

Compared to what then?

It's clear to me that most of you are either very young or have never suffered chronic illness or chronic pain of any sort. Unless you're one of the lucky few to die in your sleep or get nembutal or a gas setup, your death will be some kind of unpleasant, period.

For context: Chronic monthly hormonal pain can be excruciating. Heck, just take a look through the endometriosis and PCOS subreddits. The uterine fibroid subreddits. The amount of pain people regularly go through on a two week basis is absurd.

If you live until old age, you will have most likely have some sort of chronic pain as well. Arthritis, cancer, nerve pain caused by diabetes, god knows what else.

SN sounds uncomfortable at worst. But as someone who deals regularly with chronic pain, it seems like a cakewalk in comparison. Especially if benzos can be found. It sounds privileged as hell seeing people here complain about a few minutes heart racing and air hunger and dizziness. Like it legitimately pisses me off so fucking much.

Like I don't want people to deal with chronic pain but my god. Fucking hell man.

Even as a young and able-bodied person, i was always confused as to why dizziness, confusion, shortness of breath like you are exhausted and headache were seen as so awful. I have felt mental anguish i would trade for those symptoms any day of the week. This is just my opinion based on what i have read.

 

[dirkw83]

I get it in an absolute sense, then yes SN is not as peaceful as just lying in bed and falling asleep. But dear lord at some point if you want to ctb you need to make a decision and in that context SN is a peaceful option compared to most others. It's also not guaranteed how much air hunger you'll even experience. And finally I guess everyone rates these things differently. For some air hunger is just not acceptable, for other's it's just a minor detail.

 

[atre]

It depends on how much you can tolerate nausea and tachycardia I guess.

 

[linuxbois]

I just read through the whole CO thread and that'll probably be my way to go.

Different people can handle different types of discomfort.