Fentanyl pressed pills?

[ronnyriggs2]

Hey there! Hope everyone is having a good and relaxing holiday season
I recently heard about Fentanyl pills - how would these work as a potential method?
The pills are 1.2mg a pill and its apparently 98% pure stuff

 

[Farmmaa]

F is not easily absorbed via oral administration. Most users crush the pills and either snort, smoke or use them sublingually.
The suggested lethal dose is 20 mg, but I don't know if I'd trust that pills are pure. They most certainly have to contain binders to hold them together.

 

[ronnyriggs2]

I thought the lethal dose is 2mg? These pills are sold as oxycodone counterfeits - they look lile blue oxy pills but I have been told they contain no actually oxycodone and just 1.2mg fentanyl in each
If multiple pills are taken orally and a few pills are snorted after I feel lile this may work
Even mac Miller passed away snorting fentanyl pressed oxy pills

 

[Farmmaa]

I thought the lethal dose is 2mg? These pills are sold as oxycodone counterfeits - they look lile blue oxy pills but I have been told they contain no actually oxycodone and just 1.2mg fentanyl in each
If multiple pills are taken orally and a few pills are snorted after I feel lile this may work
Even mac Miller passed away snorting fentanyl pressed oxy pills

Yes, the lethal dose of PURE F is around 2 mg for most non drug users.

But there are a few things to consider;

The only way to get 100% of that dose is with IV injection. Other methods do not metabolize or absorb as well.
Ingestion is the least effective.

A 1 mg pill does not contain 1 mg of F.
They also contain any number of fillers, binders and coatings.
So.. there is no way of knowing how much actual F you are getting.
You also don't know what kind of F it is.... it is rare to get actual pure Fentanyl HCL... what you will probably get is one of many different F analogues. Some are just as potent, some are not.

People will still OD on it, don't get me wrong ... but don't rely on a 1mg pill being 1 mg of F.
You will also be losing about 40% of it's effectiveness by ingesting.

 

[Schadenfreude]

Never tried the pills since I had access to the actual fentalogue powder, which I've OD'd via smoking it a few days ago. I probably wouldn't be here if someone hadn't found me. Really wish he hadn't at this point. Now I'm just suffering even more.

 

[ronnyriggs2]

F is not easily absorbed via oral administration. Most users crush the pills and either snort, smoke or use them sublingually.
The suggested lethal dose is 20 mg, but I don't know if I'd trust that pills are pure. They most certainly have to contain binders to hold them together.

Thanks for the replies. What's your opinion on taking like 30 pills orally with maybe xanax and a lot of alcohol? The seller claims the pills are 98.9 f hcl

Thanks for the replies. What's your opinion on taking like 30 pills orally with maybe xanax and a lot of alcohol? The seller claims the pills are 98.9 f hcl

Oh and I have zero tolerance by the way

 

[Farmmaa]

Thanks for the replies. What's your opinion on taking like 30 pills orally with maybe xanax and a lot of alcohol? The seller claims the pills are 98.9 f hcl

Oh and I have zero tolerance by the way

I wouldn't waste them if I were you.
The oral bioavailability of F is only about 30-40%.

Yes, you can still OD on it if you take enough, but there are other methods that will guarantee to deliver a lot more into your system.

If you crush the pills and then dissolve in about 1 ml of water - you can very easily dose it anally and get 80-90% of it's potency instead.
The powder can also be snorted effectively.

 

[pane]

Farmmaa,

One member here (can't recall his screen name) once said that Fentanyl can also be placed between the cheek and gum to absorb it directly into the bloodstream. Have you ever heard of this way of ingesting it?

 

[ronnyriggs2]

thanks for all the help.
i guess just keep snorting as many lines as quick as you can before you pass out lmao im intrigued by this idea and this seller has rave reviews on a few markets

 

[Farmmaa]

Farmmaa,

One member here (can't recall his screen name) once said that Fentanyl can also be placed between the cheek and gum to absorb it directly into the bloodstream. Have you ever heard of this way of ingesting it?

Yes, it is also readily absorbed via sublingual - in cheek, under tongue.
It's the same principle as anal... absorption through mucus membranes and directly into bloodstream.

Just not sure how crushed pills would taste since they contain chemical binders, etc.

 

[Thanatonaut]

One factor that is being left out is genes. Cytochrome P450 determines each person's opioid metabolism, so what might put one person's dick in the dirt would just give someone else a really good high. Opioid overdose is wildly unreliable as a CTB method.

 

[Farmmaa]

One factor that is being left out is genes. Cytochrome P450 determines each person's opioid metabolism, so what might put one person's dick in the dirt would just give someone else a really good high. Opioid overdose is wildly unreliable as a CTB method.

True that people most certainly process and metabolize opioids differently - but fentanyl and it's analogues are in a class of their own.
The enzyme that metabolises F is intestinal or hepatic CYP3A4 . Studies have shown that there is little difference in individuals when it comes to the effectiveness and bioavailability of F .. but rather, it can affect the rate of elimination and the duration of it's effects.

So - a large dose will put anyone on their arse, but some may process it and eliminate it a lot quicker and be down for a shorter period of time.

I think it is safe to say that if one can find pure F, or one of it's stronger analogues, and take a large amount of that product... you will OD. There is a reason it is killings thousands of people.

 

[Backwood_tilt]

I just mentioned this somewhere else and it may only be my experience, but ODing on opioids is awful. You are very aware that you are ODing and you legitimately feel like you are dying, but not in a remotely comfortable way.

If it lasts a very short time due to dosage (i.e., short time to death) then i can see it being recommended. But it is absolutely brutal the way I experienced it.

 

[Lisa]

Yes, the lethal dose of PURE F is around 2 mg for most non drug users.

But there are a few things to consider;

The only way to get 100% of that dose is with IV injection. Other methods do not metabolize or absorb as well.
Ingestion is the least effective.

A 1 mg pill does not contain 1 mg of F.
They also contain any number of fillers, binders and coatings.
So.. there is no way of knowing how much actual F you are getting.
You also don't know what kind of F it is.... it is rare to get actual pure Fentanyl HCL... what you will probably get is one of many different F analogues. Some are just as potent, some are not.

People will still OD on it, don't get me wrong ... but don't rely on a 1mg pill being 1 mg of F.
You will also be losing about 40% of it's effectiveness by ingesting.

Hello

I hope it's ok to send you this message. If you feel better not replying I understand. I noticed you answered a question about F and wondered if you know how to inject it. I know it sounds dumb but I wonder if you simply add water to it and put it in a syringe or if there's more to it. If you heat it would it explode? If you add water might that alone make it explode? Sorry I don't know about these things.Thank you

True that people most certainly process and metabolize opioids differently - but fentanyl and it's analogues are in a class of their own.
The enzyme that metabolises F is intestinal or hepatic CYP3A4 . Studies have shown that there is little difference in individuals when it comes to the effectiveness and bioavailability of F .. but rather, it can affect the rate of elimination and the duration of it's effects.

So - a large dose will put anyone on their arse, but some may process it and eliminate it a lot quicker and be down for a shorter period of time.

I think it is safe to say that if one can find pure F, or one of it's stronger analogues, and take a large amount of that product... you will OD. There is a reason it is killings thousands of people.

Hello

I hope it's ok to send you this message. If you feel better not replying I understand. I noticed you answered a question about F and wondered if you know how to inject it. I know it sounds dumb but I wonder if you simply add water to it and put it in a syringe or if there's more to it. If you heat it would it explode? If you add water might that alone make it explode? Sorry I don't know about these things.Thank you

 

[Farmmaa]

I just mentioned this somewhere else and it may only be my experience, but ODing on opioids is awful. You are very aware that you are ODing and you legitimately feel like you are dying, but not in a remotely comfortable way.

If it lasts a very short time due to dosage (i.e., short time to death) then i can see it being recommended. But it is absolutely brutal the way I experienced it.

From 99% of the accounts from people who have od using H and F, you feel absolutely nothing at all. You simply nod off and that's it.
Some people can get nauseous from opioids, but if you've taken enough to od on, that will last only a few seconds.
Most users who od don't even have time to get the needle out of their arm.

Most any method has some sort of discomfort involved. The exception would be a perfectly placed bullet.

 

[Backwood_tilt]

From 99% of the accounts from people who have od using H and F, you feel absolutely nothing at all. You simply nod off and that's it.
Some people can get nauseous from opioids, but if you've taken enough to od on, that will last only a few seconds.
Most users who od don't even have time to get the needle out of their arm.

Most any method has some sort of discomfort involved. The exception would be a perfectly placed bullet.

Oh wow, ok I am happy to be wrong about that. Clearly I just didn't take enough.

 

[NextSummer]

Opiods can also absorbed rectally too. Sounds weird, is more effective than nasal and oral absorption though. Just prepare a needless syringe and dissolve it in warm water.

 

[Farmmaa]

Hello

I hope it's ok to send you this message. If you feel better not replying I understand. I noticed you answered a question about F and wondered if you know how to inject it. I know it sounds dumb but I wonder if you simply add water to it and put it in a syringe or if there's more to it. If you heat it would it explode? If you add water might that alone make it explode? Sorry I don't know about these things.Thank you

There is nothing in H or F that makes them explosive.

I don't advise anyone to use any method without a whole lot of extensive research before hand.
This is not a time to be spontaneous or careless.
You can not simply guess a to substances, administration and amounts.

 

[Lisa]

There is nothing in H or F that makes them explosive.

I don't advise anyone to use any method without a whole lot of extensive research before hand.
This is not a time to be spontaneous or careless.
You can not simply guess a to substances, administration and amounts.

Thank You I appreciate it

 

[Schadenfreude]

I just mentioned this somewhere else and it may only be my experience, but ODing on opioids is awful. You are very aware that you are ODing and you legitimately feel like you are dying, but not in a remotely comfortable way.

If it lasts a very short time due to dosage (i.e., short time to death) then i can see it being recommended. But it is absolutely brutal the way I experienced it.

That's strange. Every time I OD'd on fentanyl, I just black out and don't remember a thing before they narcanned me.

 

[Thanatonaut]

Opiods can also absorbed rectally too. Sounds weird, is more effective than nasal and oral absorption though. Just prepare a needless syringe and dissolve it in warm water.

That's because the rectal route bypasses about 2/3 of first-pass liver filtration because of the rectum's venous drainage. The superior rectal vein is hepatic, but both the middle and inferior rectal vein are systemic drainage, meaning they're a direct line to home base.

 

[Deathwithdignity]

Never tried the pills since I had access to the actual fentalogue powder, which I've OD'd via smoking it a few days ago. I probably wouldn't be here if someone hadn't found me. Really wish he hadn't at this point. Now I'm just suffering even more.

If you still have access to any of that powder I'd be willing to pay you a pretty penny for some. Not planning on exiting just would like to have some on hand. Peace

 

[Aap]

Only one out of the three rectal veins bypass the hepatic circulation.