Method Need help to calculate how many pills I need to take to CTB.

[EmployedHikikomori]

Been thinking about my CBT method. Last time I tried to, I shallowed a bottle of sleeping pills. Not the whole bottle given it wasn't full, I've been using it normally before. But survived than, but regret it now. So I'm planning to do it again with more bottles, all full, and a large bottle of hard liquor. To ensure I'll CBT.

The amount of pills I need. When I tried to die the last time, I'd ODed, I thought I came close to dying. However doing research on what I need, I don't think I was close. I downed 3/4 of a bottle of 50 mg, of HCl sleeping pills. I think that's 120 pills. Or 6000 mg of HCL. I did OD and had to be rushed to the ER, but I think I would've not CBT that night regardless.

I'm a heavy person, it's been awhile since I weighed myself. last time I checked, I was somewhere between 400 to 500 lbs. I'm gonna round up to 500 lb or 226.8 kg. I'm gonna use 250 kg to cover any errors and cleaner math.

According to a quick search, the accepted oral LD50 for hydrochloric acid (31.45% solution) is 700 mg/kg based on rat studies. so for a 70 kg adult, this theoretical LD50 would equate to 49,000 mg (49 g) of pure HCl. Given a concentrated solution (~37% HCl), this corresponds to roughly 132 mL of acid. plugging in 250 kg to the 700 mg/kg, that's 175,000 mg.

HCL pills come in 50 mg dose, 175,000 mg in 50 mg/pills. that's 3500 pills minimum. the largest bottle I can find has 200 pills in them. That's 17 and a half bottles. I don't think I can shallow all those at once or fast enough before the HCL can kick in and knock me out before I can shallow the last pill.

Not gonna like, I thought shallowing just 5 bottles of those before washing it down with vodka would be enough.

Than again, I am a fat ass. With a lot of lard on my body. Hopefully I can shallow enough to CBT. Maybe those 5 bottles would be enough.

Thoughts?

 

[Tautochrome]

I think you may have misunderstood something. What are these pills exactly, surely not pure HCl?
Also, most meds nowadays are unsuitable for the purpose.

 

[EmployedHikikomori]

I think you may have misunderstood something. What are these pills exactly, surely not pure HCl?
Also, most meds nowadays are unsuitable for the purpose.

That's what I fear. I'm mainly been looking up some generic stuff on amazon.

What you're telling me is that it'll be very difficult to do so.

 

[Tautochrome]

CTB is never easy. I recommend checking out the method megathreads and the non-method thread
Thread 'Suicide Resource Compilation' https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/suicide-resource-compilation.3/

 

[EmployedHikikomori]

CTB is never easy. I recommend checking out the method megathreads and the non-method thread
Thread 'Suicide Resource Compilation' https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/suicide-resource-compilation.3/

So I doubled check with Brave AI (I know AI can't be fully trusted but still). Medical sources note that severe toxicity and potential fatality can result from doses far exceeding the recommended limit, with some reports indicating that 2000 mg (40 pills). The bottles of HCL have 200 pills. I think I can shallow about 5 maybe 6 bottles worth.

If I still fail... well, I think I'd be so brain damaged that I may not care about anything anymore. I won't be myself, that's a type of CTB is it not?

 

[Forveleth]

Unfortunately, medication OD's are very unreliable. You are far more likely to get very sick and live than you are to die. It is not a recommended method.

 

[EmployedHikikomori]

Unfortunately, medication OD's are very unreliable. You are far more likely to get very sick and live than you are to die. It is not a recommended method.

I was already linked to mega threads. Hanging seems doable, however, I'm scared that my SI will kick in and stop me.

Do you have any other doable methods that won't be stopped by SI?

Maybe combine the two? Drug myself up so SI can't stop me from dying?

 

[Forveleth]

I was already linked to mega threads. Hanging seems doable, however, I'm scared that my SI will kick in and stop me.

Do you have any other doable methods that won't be stopped by SI?

Maybe combine the two? Drug myself up so SI can't stop me from dying?

Directly suggesting methods is against the rules for this forum, so you will have to do your own research and find a method that works for you. That being said, SI is very individual to every person. One method that is very appealing to another person may be unimaginable for someone else, so again, you will have to find what works for you.

As far as taking medications to decrease SI, that is very common here and is even suggested in some methods in the PPH.

 

[Tautochrome]

So I doubled check with Brave AI (I know AI can't be fully trusted but still). Medical sources note that severe toxicity and potential fatality can result from doses far exceeding the recommended limit, with some reports indicating that 2000 mg (40 pills). The bottles of HCL have 200 pills. I think I can shallow about 5 maybe 6 bottles worth.

If I still fail... well, I think I'd be so brain damaged that I may not care about anything anymore. I won't be myself, that's a type of CTB is it not?

I doubt it is hydrochloric acid we're talking about... Those pills you have are likely a hydrochloride salt of some substance. [something] HCl