Does ctb need a reason?

[Thequietone]

Like I have many reasons why but I think it would help my family more if I had one several reason.

I wrote them in my letters so I think it would be good.

 

[DeutscheKartoffel]

thats kinda sound like red flag to me ngl.

it sounds premature, also it sounds like you are not sure why you even thought about suicide,
as if you were bored/confused or something.

I bet a lot of younger people do give up prematurely in their teens/early 20s.
It's tragic for not knowing better, throwing away a life so easily.

(if you had "valid" reasons, you would at least been able to identify & talk about them?)

 

[Deleted member 10090]

I wouldn't say it needs a reason per se, life in and of itself can be the reason but the idea of suicide in my eyes should not be taken lightly and definitely, should not be an impulsive decision.

 

[Seiba]

It doesn't need one, but it always has one. It's up to you to examine why you're considering suicide, you are considering it for a reason regardless if you are aware of the reason yet or not.

 

[Chronicillness]

You guys ever watch the videos put out by the youtube channel, "special books for special kids"? That youtube channel alone makes me want to instantly kill myself. That YT channel is purely just an assemblage of videos interviewing some of the most unlucky, ill-fated, helpless and etiolated people on the entire planet. The sheer inequity/inequality on display in those videos is enough to make me perceive the world as rotten and unfair to its very core.

People are literally thriving off the broken-spirited and that's an injustice of monumental proportions. That alone is enough reason for me to self-terminate.

 

[LingeringUnreal]

A reason makes things more concrete for me, I don't really know what it's like to live without a reason for dying because of childhood abuse so it's hard to say for someone else. But I think if you can't immediately think of a reason for dying, it's better to hold out because it could be temporary feelings like anhedonia (especially if you take SSRIs, those will just randomly pop off anhedonia and suicidal thoughts like no one's business).

 

[Amumu]

Absolutely not, our parents didn't need a reason to procreate, so we don't need a reason to kill ourselves.

 

[_Minsk]

There doesn't need to be a reason, we shouldn't pressure ourselves to stay if we clearly not want to. Sometimes i even think about it as self inflicted abuse

 

[Thequietone]

thats kinda sound like red flag to me ngl.

it sounds premature, also it sounds like you are not sure why you even thought about suicide,
as if you were bored/confused or something.

I bet a lot of younger people do give up prematurely in their teens/early 20s.
It's tragic for not knowing better, throwing away a life so easily.

(if you had "valid" reasons, you would at least been able to identify & talk about them?)

Ok yeah you have a point. Thanks.

I wouldn't say it needs a reason per se, life in and of itself can be the reason but the idea of suicide in my eyes should not be taken lightly and definitely, should not be an impulsive decision.

You're right. It wouldn't be an impulsive decision for me. I think about it by age 11 and now I'm 23.

It doesn't need one, but it always has one. It's up to you to examine why you're considering suicide, you are considering it for a reason regardless if you are aware of the reason yet or not.

For me it is like I'm too tired to live and even if I try harder it doesn't change me. I also have a collection of reasons but I thought like you need a reason that everyone understands like your parents die or so.

A reason makes things more concrete for me, I don't really know what it's like to live without a reason for dying because of childhood abuse so it's hard to say for someone else. But I think if you can't immediately think of a reason for dying, it's better to hold out because it could be temporary feelings like anhedonia (especially if you take SSRIs, those will just randomly pop off anhedonia and suicidal thoughts like no one's business).

Sorry to hear that. I don't take any meds except for acne. I'm just the kind of person which is too tired to live and feels I walk around like a zombie.

 

[FuneralCry]

We all have the right to exit this world at a time of our own choosing, and nobody needs to justify their reasons for leaving. None of us asked to exist in the first place so we have no obligations to stay alive. Suicide is a personal decision and it is nothing to do with anyone else.

 

[Thequietone]

Absolutely not, our parents didn't need a reason to procreate, so we don't need a reason to kill ourselves.

Thanks for that. Makes me feel better that fact.

We all have the right to exit this world at a time of our own choosing, and nobody needs to justify their reasons for leaving. None of us asked to exist in the first place so we have no obligations to stay alive. Suicide is a personal decision and it is nothing to do with anyone else.

Totally true. Doesn't always work because we think too much about others.

 

[Fadeawaaaay]

You don't need a reason but you probably wouldn't be here on SS if you didn't have one.

 

[Thequietone]

You don't need a reason but you probably wouldn't be here on SS if you didn't have one.

True.

 

[Fadeawaaaay]

True.

Even if the reason is I don't want to bother to be living… It's not a very interesting reason but it's a reason

 

[cambrai33]

Yes if you have any hope of getting past Si

Think about it, sitting there about to inflict some deadly violence on your body and you have don't have a good enough reason for doing it, that's going to be a tough one to get past if I am totally honest, however I am still alive so I'm no expert on it

Suicide idealation can take a lot of different forms and sometimes the act of inflicting death on yourself becomes the main focus than the reasons why, I of course don't speak for anyone but myself so I could just be talking bollocks

 

[LingeringUnreal]

Sorry to hear that. I don't take any meds except for acne. I'm just the kind of person which is too tired to live and feels I walk around like a zombie.

Ahhh I feel that, that's actually kind of a reason for me in itself, the just way too tired constantly feeling.

 

[eternalmelancholy]

Whatever reasons you have to ctb is enough. You don't have to seek approval from others. They will never understand because they never lived your life. At the end of the day you have to make the decision for yourself.

 

[motel rooms]

it sounds like you are not sure why you even thought about suicide,
as if you were bored/confused or something.
(...)
(if you had "valid" reasons, you would at least been able to identify & talk about them?)

I have many reasons why

@DeutscheKartoffel Bored/confused or something?

 

[DeutscheKartoffel]

@DeutscheKartoffel Bored/confused or something?

"(if you had "valid" reasons, you would at least been able to identify & talk about them?)"

"I bet a lot of younger people do give up prematurely in their teens/early 20s.
It's tragic for not knowing better, throwing away a life so easily."

 

[motel rooms]

"(if you had "valid" reasons, you would at least been able to identify & talk about them?)"

I have many reasons why

If a person says that they have many reasons to ctb in the first post of their thread, that obviously means they've identified them. It's not their duty to talk about them to us, nor to be incredibly articulate when they decide to do so. It's not cool to tell someone who states they have many reasons to ctb that they just seem "bored/confused or something"...

It wouldn't be an impulsive decision for me. I think about it by age 11 and now I'm 23.

I'm too tired to live and even if I try harder it doesn't change me. I also have a collection of reasons but I thought like you need a reason that everyone understands

I'm just the kind of person which is too tired to live and feels I walk around like a zombie.

 

[DeutscheKartoffel]

If a person says that they have many reasons to ctb in the first post of their thread, that obviously means they've identified them. It's not their duty to talk about them to us, nor to be incredibly articulate when they decide to do so. It's not cool to tell someone who states they have many reasons to ctb that they just seem "bored/confused or something"...

My bad, I forgot "we" encourage suicide unconditionally.
Even if they can't pinpoint why.

I don't claim this "you don't need a reason to die" negativity.

 

[Onkyo74893]

I agree with FuneralCry. Nobody asked permission to come into this world, so why would you need permission to leave it? But people who have never felt suicidal have no idea why anyone who seems to have a reasonably good life would want to end their life. That's why I plan to leave very well thought out letters to my family members to give them some idea of the mental torture I endure.

 

[DeutscheKartoffel]

"Thequietone said:
It wouldn't be an impulsive decision for me. I think about it by age 11 and now I'm 23.

I'm too tired to live and even if I try harder it doesn't change me. I also have a collection of reasons but I thought like you need a reason that everyone understands

I'm just the kind of person which is too tired to live and feels I walk around like a zombie."

I'm sorry to hear Thequietone be feeling this way.
and I agree my vocabulary was lacking regarding "bored/confused"
I could have worded it better.

 

[motel rooms]

My bad, I forgot "we" encourage suicide unconditionally.

How did I do that? I just think it's disrespectful to call a suicidal person just "bored/confused or something"...

I'm sorry to hear Thequietone be feeling this way.
and I agree my vocabulary was lacking regarding "bored/confused"
I could have worded it better.

I'm glad you finally carefully read all that OP said.

 

[miserableforever]

thats kinda sound like red flag to me ngl.

it sounds premature, also it sounds like you are not sure why you even thought about suicide,
as if you were bored/confused or something.

I bet a lot of younger people do give up prematurely in their teens/early 20s.
It's tragic for not knowing better, throwing away a life so easily.

(if you had "valid" reasons, you would at least been able to identify & talk about them?)

Yes and no. Sometimes people can suffer from depression bouts that don't really make one feel sad, it's more like impending doom and self destruction, without an actual explanation.

 

[clown_17]

I don't think anyone would kill themsleves for no reason. They may think there isn't any, but deep down there's probably a reason why.

 

[eternalmelancholy]

I don't think anyone would kill themsleves for no reason. They may think there isn't any, but deep down there's probably a reason why.

Of course there are always reasons. Whatever reasons you have for ctb is enough. You don't have to justify yourself to anyone. You don't owe anyone an explanation either.

 

[eryu]

I don't take any meds except for acne

Actually, some of these can make people suicidal too.
Roaccutane has the potential to cause a lot of wonky mental side effects and has been linked to suicide.

 

[little helpers]

the lack of reasons to live is enough reason to die.

and any sort of reasons is really just attribution. attributions are not necessarily "real", just plausible enough to the person who made such an attribution.

so that goes to prove that reasons aren't meant to be inherently "true" or anything. just reasonable.

and for the vast majority of time, if not all the time, no one wishes to do anything they find unreasonable.

so there you have it.

you don't need to prove to yourself it's reasonable, you know it is or it isn't. although I'd happily quote Built To Spill to answer this question:
"proving's illogical, it's sometimes necessary; proving's illogical, but it's a cinch."

 

[wait-for-the-bus]

When I was a teenageer, I tried to kill myself by hanging it failed. And ever since I decided that some day in the future I would end my own life on my own terms.

It was always just an idea that sat there like someday I would retire.

But lately, it has moved up in importance.

I am now planning it, thinking it through and buying the tools I need to make it happen. It won't happen today, tomorrow or even next year but it will

And the reason I will CTB, is that I will end my own life on my own terms when I feel its best to do so.

But is that really a reason or something I just made up to make me feel better that I have a reason.

To be honest, It an urge to CTB with no obvious reason. It just something I just can't escape. I just want to CTB