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Does anyone want to talk about their belief in the afterlife?
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Its something I've been coming to terms with since planning to ctb. I've asked people what their views were, read and watched movies on near death experiences. I am always open to views on this subject. Feel free to message me.
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I was raised agnostic on my dads side and Catholic on my moms. I went to church as a kid religiously but I always felt something was off. I always wondered why the Bible was so against me, a girl. Why were men granted freedom and women required to behave and obey their husband? Women, after all, ate the apple first. we challenged our captor (god) and because we did our punishment became our very existence. So I stopped believing traditional religion. Instead, I believe that we will go back to the place our soul was before we were born. A place with no pain, no pleasure, no hate, no love, only pure nothingness and it brings me so much comfort. And no fear of death.
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I wonder about this all the time. Personally I believe we just die and nothing happens but that's sad to think about.
If God is real and his son died for all man's sins then why would someone that committed suicide go to hell? Is purgatory a real thing? Is reincarnation real? Do we get reunited with loved ones? From what I understand scientifically you can't kill energy it just transforms so on a molecular level what happens to the energy in our bodies?
Another thought I had was that if God is real then is there only one God? That didn't make much sense to me which made me think.... Maybe when we die we become a God of our own planet or universe. How cool would that be?!?
I wonder about this all the time. Personally I believe we just die and nothing happens but that's sad to think about.
If God is real and his son died for all man's sins then why would someone that committed suicide go to hell? Is purgatory a real thing? Is reincarnation real? Do we get reunited with loved ones? From what I understand scientifically you can't kill energy it just transforms so on a molecular level what happens to the energy in our bodies?
Another thought I had was that if God is real then is there only one God? That didn't make much sense to me which made me think.... Maybe when we die we become a God of our own planet or universe. How cool would that be?!?
I'm fascinated by this stuff. There is so much we don't know. But. Do I believe we all hang out after dying, with all the other dead folk? I hope not. Way too crowded…
I've written a couple responses to this topic on different threads. I honestly can't say with any degree of certainty that there is an afterlife but I like that thought of it. But if there's nothing after death and its just lights out I'm OK with that too.
I had the unfortunate experience of witnessing 9/11 in real life. The company I worked for had windows that faced downtown Manhattan and both towers were visible. I was 20 city blocks north - just under a mile - so pretty close considering how large the city is. My friend worked in the North Tower on the 101st floor. This tower was hit first but was the second one to come down. It was horrifying to watch the buildings burn with all that thick black smoke. People were at the windows trying to get air and avoid the flames. And then they started jumping. I knew they were faced with the worst decision to make and there was nothing I or anyone else could do to help. All phone lines were down (land and cell). I lost it when the first building went down and then finally the second. I knew she was gone.
Her boyfriend went to an event at a large conference hall many months, possibly years later, where a medium (someone who can communicate with the dead) was speaking. Towards the end of the event she picked him out of the crowd because she was getting messages from a girl who wanted the medium to speak with him. The boyfriend, who wasn't necessarily a believer in mediums, listened to what she had to say but gave her no information about anything so he could see if she was the real deal. The medium described what my friend did and went through that day. The medium talked about things that only my friend and her bf spoke about privately. The medium said when the building was fully down that my friend was immediately greated by 2 angels who took her up (I don't think she called it heaven but like another dimension). My friends coworkers were also taken by 2 angels to the other dimension. Their souls watch over us and they have duties on the other side. My friend who passed also communicated things to the medium that her boyfriend did after she passed that only he would know since he was alone.
This can sound crazy or whatever but I believe it's true. My dog has literally watched, not just following with her eyes, but moving her head as if there's someone in our apartment many many times. My dog isn't scared of its presence. Animals are more in tune with this than humans.
Sorry for the LONG post. But I hope we can be helpful in our next life.
One of the few things that makes me smile is watching the little birds, House Sparrows or Song Sparrows, in the morning when I walk my dog. They all live in like their own bird community and just seem happy. Chirping, eating little seeds, and bouncing around through the different branches in the shrubs. I want to be one of them in my next life.
I'm fascinated by this stuff. There is so much we don't know. But. Do I believe we all hang out after dying, with all the other dead folk? I hope not. Way too crowded…
The thought of an afterlife is terrifying for me and honestly probably tons of other mentally ill folks who would have a shit time. Like how do you double kill yourself? Can I Google it on afterlife computers?
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The thought of an afterlife is terrifying for me and honestly probably tons of other mentally ill folks who would have a shit time. Like how do you double kill yourself? Can I Google it on afterlife computers?
Likewise! I would really hate to ctb and find the same BS waiting for me at the other end. I am just hoping it is just nothingness. Like going under anasthesia.
I have had multiple surgeries under GA. One minute I am awake and in pain. The next moment - nothing; absolute blessed nothing. Until I wake up after the surgery that is
Likewise! I would really hate to ctb and find the same BS waiting for me at the other end. I am just hoping it is just nothingness. Like going under anasthesia.
I have had multiple surgeries under GA. One minute I am awake and in pain. The next moment - nothing; absolute blessed nothing. Until I wake up after the surgery that is
Likewise! When the doctor was telling me about the dangers of anasthesia - I was secretly thinking "Dude, shut up! That's a feature. A really desirable feature! If I don't wake up - that would be awesome!"
Its something I've been coming to terms with since planning to ctb. I've asked people what their views were, read and watched movies on near death experiences. I am always open to views on this subject. Feel free to message me.
I believe you have choice, either you go to white light or you stay in nothingness/void. I only read NDEs about It. So maybe comfy void is still on menu.
I mean even If it is hallucination of brain I still think It is kinda wholesome to have last experience before we enter the void.
I hope and believe that there is simply nothing after this life, once we lose consciousness that is it for us. Death is true peace and freedom from all pain and suffering.
I was raised Catholic and gave it all up aged 12. Even at that age, it all seemed like so much nonsense to me. Declared myself an atheist much to the distress of my Mum.
In my 20's I read a lot about Buddhism. What I liked about it initially was that there was no belief in a monotheistic 'God', that they don't try and convert others and even the Buddha himself said that it was only a theory and encouraged others to be sceptical about everything.
Cutting a very long story short, I began researching my maternal Grandfather, who died quiet young of TB. There were too many silly coincidences, like his date of death being my birthday.
The 'ego' or 'self' is just a role we play in this life. I can't even begin to explain what persists between lives. I hesitate to call it a 'soul', it's just a bundle of desires that we carry between incarnations and we're bound going forward by our Karma via our actions, both good and bad.
I believe we also tend to reincarnate in 'soul groups'. When my Mum was dying of cancer, I confessed my belief to her that I was her Dad in a previous life, and she said 'I know'. When my son was born three years after she passed, he has a really irregular bump in his skull in the exact place that my Mum had her brain tumour.
I still remain an atheist.
In regards to Buddhism and suicide, I believe it's all about intention. If you're ctb'ing with the sole intention of hurting others, that's seriously screwed up Karma that you'll inherit on the next go-around.
But if you're doing it with the intention of ending the pain you're enduring with consideration of the pain that you'll cause others, then the universe gives you a pass.
Again, I approach the Buddhist model almost like a scientific theory. There is empirical evidence of it (Dr. Ian Stevenson's comprehensive work) and cases like James Linegar ()
I love it. Their beliefs were god tier I would do close to anything to be an ancient Egyptian. Recently they found a pregnant mummy with her baby pickled which I thought was interesting
Its something I've been coming to terms with since planning to ctb. I've asked people what their views were, read and watched movies on near death experiences. I am always open to views on this subject. Feel free to message me.
I was raised Catholic and gave it all up aged 12. Even at that age, it all seemed like so much nonsense to me. Declared myself an atheist much to the distress of my Mum.
In my 20's I read a lot about Buddhism. What I liked about it initially was that there was no belief in a monotheistic 'God', that they don't try and convert others and even the Buddha himself said that it was only a theory and encouraged others to be sceptical about everything.
Cutting a very long story short, I began researching my maternal Grandfather, who died quiet young of TB. There were too many silly coincidences, like his date of death being my birthday.
The 'ego' or 'self' is just a role we play in this life. I can't even begin to explain what persists between lives. I hesitate to call it a 'soul', it's just a bundle of desires that we carry between incarnations and we're bound going forward by our Karma via our actions, both good and bad.
I believe we also tend to reincarnate in 'soul groups'. When my Mum was dying of cancer, I confessed my belief to her that I was her Dad in a previous life, and she said 'I know'. When my son was born three years after she passed, he has a really irregular bump in his skull in the exact place that my Mum had her brain tumour.
I still remain an atheist.
In regards to Buddhism and suicide, I believe it's all about intention. If you're ctb'ing with the sole intention of hurting others, that's seriously screwed up Karma that you'll inherit on the next go-around.
But if you're doing it with the intention of ending the pain you're enduring with consideration of the pain that you'll cause others, then the universe gives you a pass.
Again, I approach the Buddhist model almost like a scientific theory. There is empirical evidence of it (Dr. Ian Stevenson's comprehensive work) and cases like James Linegar ()
There is what I want and what I actually bet will be, though I am just putting my heart into what I hope.
If I could choose what would happen I would get to be reborn into a world I decide. I know it is childish but I want to be able to exist as a Pokemon or something instead! To live the lives I always wanted to in the things I have read and watched and imagined.
But honestly I figure that there won't be any conscious existence after death. It will be like it was before we were born. And that doesn't bother me either, it seems peaceful and simple and won't involve any suffering. So, I dunno! We will all find out eventually though, which is a comfort!
I think it's extremely unlikely there is anywhere our consiousness will go after our bodies die. I have seen no credible evidence to suggest otherwise. There are a ton of religious scriptures, but I have an extremely high confidence that they were all completely made up by humans with no divine inspiration at all. I was raised a Christian so that's the one I'm most familiar with. If you take a step back and actually look at the stories in the Christian bible, you can see how the Christian god is really just like a human 8 year old with super powers. He acts really human, with some of our worst traits. The supposed "devil" actually seems like a better person over all. At least he seems to act more like a human adult than a spoiled child.
Anyway I hope I'm just done. It would be shitty to wake up I think.
The Mormon church white washes some of their weird beliefs. The Atlantic did a story on it and the churches statement was that they believe they become LIKE gods. No…as you can see from the above mormon doctrine, they believe they can be gods but it's only the most obedient Mormons who get that honor. It's very culty and fosters a sense of elitism in the church. I was raised Mormon and always felt like an outsider. I felt most alone when I went to church.
Reincarnation sounds like hell to me, especially if you are remembering your past lives. I think the Linegar case can be explained by ancestral or DNA memory.
I think there is an afterlife but there wouldn't be any pain because you won't have a body.
The Mormon church white washes some of their weird beliefs. The Atlantic did a story on it and the churches statement was that they believe they become LIKE gods. No…as you can see from the above mormon doctrine, they believe they can be gods but it's only the most obedient Mormons who get that honor. It's very culty and fosters a sense of elitism in the church. I was raised Mormon and always felt like an outsider. I felt most alone when I went to church.
Reincarnation sounds like hell to me, especially if you are remembering your past lives. I think the Linegar case can be explained by ancestral or DNA memory.
I think there is an afterlife but there wouldn't be any pain because you won't have a body.
I wasn't raised Mormon, but I've learned a bit about it. They also believe the good Mormon couples who had their marriage sealed in the temple will, in the afterlife, populate a planet. So eternity for a good Mormon woman is being eternally pregnant. Yay.
As for me, I'm Jewish, and I personally don't believe there's a heaven or hell. I think when you're dying you see whatever it is you believe in, but when you're dead, there's nothing. I kind of wish there was something where you could see your family and friends who've passed on. But I don't think there is.
I don't believe there is an afterlife. I believe we just cease to exist, and that's it.
But I have read an interesting comment about this on another forum: Non-existence is appealing, because we think it's peaceful. But we won't be there to experience this peace!
So technically I get rid of the suffering, but I gain nothing, because whatever comes, I won't feel it.
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