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bloomingdark

bloomingdark

Alex
Jan 24, 2019
170
Do you think you'll live to see an actual progress on science and research about mental illnesses and how to cure them?

We're almost at the starting point, we know nothing...
 
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popcorn

popcorn

Experienced
Dec 20, 2020
298
opiates mask everything for me
 
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Trisolaris

Trisolaris

Arcanist
Dec 11, 2018
447
Even if I live to old age I don't think a cure will be found.
 
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noname223

Archangel
Aug 18, 2020
7,037
I don't want to disappoint you too much but the progress in the last years were rather average. Just think about how old methods like ECT or prozac are.
 
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Odwin

Odwin

Bucket of Chicken
Mar 31, 2021
558
Not in the near future. Maybe in the far future we can even prevent mental illness before they happen. That would ideal.
 
BeansOfRequirement

BeansOfRequirement

Man-child, loser, autistic, etc.
Jan 26, 2021
5,845
We already basically know how to prevent them, curing them after the fact will take some high tech that hopefully won't be here for a long while (I fear technological progress and it's a huge reason for me to ctb).
 
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WornOutLife

WornOutLife

マット
Mar 22, 2020
7,183
Maybe not for all of them but some such as bipolar disorder and schizophrenia.
It would be amazing to have an instant cure for not being bipolar anymore or for my mother who suffers from schizophrenia and her last years/decades of life are gonna be very sad unless she is cured.
Sure, these illnesses can be treated but it's not the same. I guess I just want a magic pill.
 
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jakaka

Member
Jan 15, 2021
61
Absolutely not. There will never be a 'cure'
 
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noname223

Archangel
Aug 18, 2020
7,037
Maybe not for all of them but some such as bipolar disorder and schizophrenia.
It would be amazing to have an instant cure for not being bipolar anymore or for my mother who suffers from schizophrenia and her last years/decades of life are gonna be very sad unless she is cured.
Sure, these illnesses can be treated but it's not the same. I guess I just want a magic pill.
I rather think this is too deep in my soul/psyche and personality so that there won't be a cure for that. Maybe this depends from person to person. However I think they might treat the symptoms way better. And we would have way less pain.
 
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Fragile

Fragile

Broken
Jul 7, 2019
1,496
HA! good one.

Seriously, no, because:

  • Psychiatrist don't understand how some of their drugs currently work, they can barely guess.

  • Genetic treatments are not even in their infancy.

  • We are discovering new brain functions almost weekly.

  • Big pharma loves to fuck up the research by over-monetizing it, they destroyed the DSM-5, too.

  • Mental health is becoming so political that there's no trust in what the lead scientist say anymore.

There are other reasons, but these are the main ones, and they are not great news to anyone who has any hope for mental health to actually become a respected science.
 
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Choronzon

Choronzon

Member
Sep 23, 2020
46
I seriously doubt it. "Mental illness" covers a massive spectrum of issues. Also, there are powerful social factors. There will be no "cure" for "mental illness" without very big steps towards real equality and material security. And the last (at least) 50 years have seen an incredibly powerful transfer of wealth upwards. I'm not someone who thinks that mental illness is nonexistent, but our paradigm for it is harmfully individualized--workplaces just focus on you being "resilient" and pay only the barest lip-service towards being less abusive.

I have ketamine treatment coming up. It's one of the promising treatments out there. My province's College of Physicians blocked the ability to have it done in a psychiatrist's office, covered by the medical plan. Now it's thousands of dollars to go to a clinic with an entirely unnecessary anesthesiologist on staff. If that doesn't work out, stupid as it is, I'll use the last of my money on an inert-gas setup.
 
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hopelessgirl

hopelessgirl

Mage
Oct 12, 2021
550
I seriously doubt it. "Mental illness" covers a massive spectrum of issues. Also, there are powerful social factors. There will be no "cure" for "mental illness" without very big steps towards real equality and material security. And the last (at least) 50 years have seen an incredibly powerful transfer of wealth upwards. I'm not someone who thinks that mental illness is nonexistent, but our paradigm for it is harmfully individualized--workplaces just focus on you being "resilient" and pay only the barest lip-service towards being less abusive.

I have ketamine treatment coming up. It's one of the promising treatments out there. My province's College of Physicians blocked the ability to have it done in a psychiatrist's office, covered by the medical plan. Now it's thousands of dollars to go to a clinic with an entirely unnecessary anesthesiologist on staff. If that doesn't work out, stupid as it is, I'll use the last of my money on an inert-gas setup.
How did your ketamine treatment work?
 
CiproKilledMe

CiproKilledMe

Experienced
Mar 23, 2021
243
At the rate I'm going I don't think I'll live to see April.
 
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CameronFrye

There’s nothing there
Feb 20, 2022
79
https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/psychiatry/research/psychedelics-research.html

https://hopkinspsychedelic.org/

Possibly, psilocybin research looks very promising and major universities are investing a significant amount of research into it. Instead of taking a random amount in a random setting by yourself, this treatment involves taking it with the support and guidance of professionals in a safe and controlled environment. The data coming out of this research is immensely positive, and seems the people involved in this research/treatment are genuinely compassionate people who want to help more than simply prescribing a pill and sending you on your way. Also one treatment of psylocybin can be effective for up to 1-5 years, as opposed to a daily pill. Also it is cheap, grown organically, and has no long term side effects. It's been shown that most who received this treatment view it as a positive and beneficial experience that continued to benefit them long term. The media will have you believe it is too dangerous and can ruin your life with permanent, severe, negative effects. However, the research shows that even those who didn't describe their experience as positive, had no negative long term effects. Again, the key here is it is administered by experts who can control for various variables, as opposed to the randomness of taking it recreationally. However this terrifies big pharma and how it impacts their profits, so you know they will continue to influence the government and push negative propaganda to keep this form of treatment illegal for as long as possible. I hope one day it somehow becomes a legal, widely used form of treatment that changes the entire field mental health treatment for the better.
 
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Worndown

Worndown

Angelic
Mar 21, 2019
4,233
I do not believe there will ever be a cure. With proper resources, there should be better treatments. Mental Illness encompasses a wide range of problems and each person reacts differently to medications and therapies. There are also too many Dr's that have a "one treatment for all" mentality that will misdiagnose or mistreat their patients.
Please try to get another opinion if you feel like your current plan is not working. You would not use a mechanic that wanted to change your fuel pump if the problem is your brakes.
 
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Shu

Shu

As above, So Below.
Jan 21, 2022
2,487
With psychedelics coming into the publics eye and more people becoming conscious of eating organic foods and stuff yeah maybe a little bit.
https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/psychiatry/research/psychedelics-research.html

https://hopkinspsychedelic.org/

Possibly, psilocybin research looks very promising and major universities are investing a significant amount of research into it. Instead of taking a random amount in a random setting by yourself, this treatment involves taking it with the support and guidance of professionals in a safe and controlled environment. The data coming out of this research is immensely positive, and seems the people involved in this research/treatment are genuinely compassionate people who want to help more than simply prescribing a pill and sending you on your way. Also one treatment of psylocybin can be effective for up to 1-5 years, as opposed to a daily pill. Also it is cheap, grown organically, and has no long term side effects. It's been shown that most who received this treatment view it as a positive and beneficial experience that continued to benefit them long term. The media will have you believe it is too dangerous and can ruin your life with permanent, severe, negative effects. However, the research shows that even those who didn't describe their experience as positive, had no negative long term effects. Again, the key here is it is administered by experts who can control for various variables, as opposed to the randomness of taking it recreationally. However this terrifies big pharma and how it impacts their profits, so you know they will continue to influence the government and push negative propaganda to keep this form of treatment illegal for as long as possible. I hope one day it somehow becomes a legal, widely used form of treatment that changes the entire field mental health treatment for the better.
<3 <3 <3 <3 YES
 
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Ligottian

Enlightened
Dec 19, 2021
1,279
Shortly after Prozac came out in 1987, a book called Talking to Prozac was published. It basically claimed that even non-depressives could become mentally sharper and more well adjusted by taking the the stuff. I wonder how money Big Pharma fronted the author. I have both anxiety and depression and could not tolerate it or any other ssri or ssnri. Or a host of other meds. Only benzos help me.
 
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TooConscious

Enlightened
Sep 16, 2020
1,150
Mental illness is extremely rare if we were to live as our dna would like us too.
Only some of us respond differently to the sadistic nature of the sick society we're born trapped into. I will not live to see it change. All the good people with influence are dead. This is hell.
 
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cleveland2011

Member
Feb 12, 2022
46
Just like Parkinson's, ALS, Fibromyalgia, MS, CFS, chronic Lyme, CIRS, amongst many other chronic disease- mental illness will never ever have a cure.

It involves too much- specifically things like mineral/vitamin balance, methylation defects, pathogens, fungus, viruses, heavy metals, and the microbiome amongst other factors as well.

That all said, when compared to the illnesses I mention above- I do believe mental illness is not the hardest to cure. It can be quite simple in many cases if you have a trained practitioner who has the correct mindset in approaching mental illness.

Pharma ain't it. And they never cure it. They bandage it. It's like a bandaid that works ok for about 20% of the cases. It's a joke.

A root cause, actual health mindset is the ONLY approach here if the word CURE is to be put in play.
Just like Parkinson's, ALS, Fibromyalgia, MS, CFS, chronic Lyme, CIRS, amongst many other chronic disease- mental illness will never ever have a cure.

It involves too much- specifically things like mineral/vitamin balance, methylation defects, pathogens, fungus, viruses, heavy metals, and the microbiome amongst other factors as well.

That all said, when compared to the illnesses I mention above- I do believe mental illness is not the hardest to cure. It can be quite simple in many cases if you have a trained practitioner who has the correct mindset in approaching mental illness.

Pharma ain't it. And they never cure it. They bandage it. It's like a bandaid that works ok for about 20% of the cases. It's a joke.

A root cause, actual health mindset is the ONLY approach here if the word CURE is to be put in play.

And for the record, I did it once. It was beautiful this world. The most amazing gift I've ever had my entire life was living this life with a well functioning mind.

Unfortunately a Lyme relapse came into play a year later. A lunatic doctor destroyed my microbiome with an antibiotic. And here I am suffering from a toxicity that got in causing a Parkinson's/ ALS like disease.

Extremely unfair.
 
GentleJerk

GentleJerk

Carrot juice pimp.
Dec 14, 2021
1,372
It's already in the pipeline but still at least 20 years off at the moment. So no. And whether or not they will roll out 'cures' for the general poplution once the scientists have found them is unlikely.
 
Darkover

Darkover

Archangel
Jul 29, 2021
5,648
i say they never cure mental illnesses like the loss of the love of your life can lead to mental illnesses

i mean someone could bottle up all thoses emotions where it pents up inside where it can fester quietly as a mental illness

i thought i was fine but maybe i am dying slowly
 
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Hurt

Paragon
Nov 13, 2020
904
Nope. This is chronic.
 
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Enigmatic Sailor

Enigmatic Sailor

vicissitudes of fate...
Oct 29, 2021
386
It could raise ethical concerns to "cure" somebody. Some outspoken people would say mental illness is "natural" and that that is the normal condition for that person. There are others who would say mental illness isn't real and just "grow up" or "get over it". I think it is abysmal how people can say these things, but it's just how life is, I guess.

Technologically wise, I believe that we are alright. I think we need to focus on better techniques and coping strategies more. Training the mind to be stronger seems to be the best option, imo.
 
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