Being forced to CTB all alone by his own means because my father does not want to accompany me for an assisted suicide in Switzerland.

[disabledlife]

Being forced to CTB all alone by his own means because my father does not want to accompany me for an assisted suicide in Switzerland.

I am really sorry to tell you this, and despite everything, I wish you happy holidays for the people who are lucky enough to benefit from it, and, really, good luck for the people who will spend these moments in suffering, solitude, fear, depression, gloom... I am really thinking of you. I thank, again, the forum for existing, and its administrators for keeping it alive, it is the only community that is generally benevolent towards me and listens to me.

Swiss associations require a person to accompany the candidate for assisted suicide, in particular for the procedures, the testimony, after the death of the candidate, to prove that it is an assisted suicide, not a murder for example.

I tell myself that the money I should have invested in assisted suicide will be used for the CTB, in pain, in violence, in a shitty world that only seeks one thing, TO KEEP PEOPLE IN LIFE!

I hate my father, I don't want to see him anymore, never again!

Should I disappear?

I have a relative, also a doctor, who allowed herself to reproach me for not thinking of the suffering of others, like my father, supposedly traumatized to accompany me to Switzerland. This relative who deliberately ignores that my father beat me, gave birth to me for money (according to what my mother told me), gave me a shitty name, humiliated me in front of others at school, with the complicity of some teacher friends...

This relative reproached me for being selfish by saying that the main suffering to take into account is that of the person who wants to leave life. However, who suffers when we are in pain??? Ourselves of course! Others can only have compassion, if they have any, it is not always the case, especially in my country, where individualism and selfishness are king! My father never worried about my suffering! However, he is responsible for my birth, it was only fair that he came to accompany me to Switzerland.

The only solution I have left is the CTB in violence and trauma, for oneself, and hoping that it will make things move in my shitty country (I won't say the details).

Before, I had thought about a voluntary disappearance.

I am disgusted to have to offer him fucking presents for Christmas to him and this relative, I think if I should not spend Christmas alone, in places that only I know, without telling them! Too bad for them. Old is better to be alone than in bad company. Shitty country, shitty mentality, I have always been better abroad.

 

[Kornous]

Where do you live? How exactly did your father humiliate you in front of teachers?

 

[invalidrev]

Which Swiss organization is this? I read somewhere on this forum that Pegasos does not require someone to accompany you.

 

[disabledlife]

Where do you live? How exactly did your father humiliate you in front of teachers?

He said that I didn't tidy my room, that my illnesses (physical, genetic, etc.) were in my head, he said horrible things about me to my teachers, who were his friends (friends from the football club), and these teachers humiliated me by throwing me out every afternoon, at primary school.

Luckily, despite everything, I could learn on my own and much better, by going to the library on the sly, and I spent my time in the toilets to relieve my sick body that had never been treated! I didn't say anything, because it suited me given my health, rather than staying in class and helping others who, instead of thanking me, humiliated me, laughed at me, tried to put their mistakes on my back, like the erased blackboard, so that the teachers would punish me again!!!!!

My father was an accomplice in this. My mother, who was also beaten by my father, didn't know about this! She was abusive in spite of herself, unable to educate me like an ordinary mother, I suspect she was autistic. My country is one of the worst countries in the world for the treatment of autistic people, recognized by the UN for being a country behaving like dictatorships!!!!

On the buses in my city, I was always laughed at, mocked, by all the children and teenagers, even some adults, I was even filmed without my knowledge, it ended up on social networks, because my city had lots of groups, blogs, well locked, etc., dedicated to gossip, humiliations... especially on Facebook! It was always like that. Luckily I am old enough to have lived a childhood without social networks, and a little without phones with cameras. Unfortunately, even in my adult life, I continued to suffer laughter and mockery, to be filmed without my knowledge when these cursed phones began to exist. My city did nothing, and is even an accomplice to these gangs. City that I left without regrets, even after, the inhabitants and elected officials of my childhood city tried to threaten me to make me come back to their shithole of a city.

Honestly, since Trump (I prefer to remain neutral) is elected (I am not American), I hope he will respect his promise to send Mark Zuckerberg to prison for life, given the evil he has done, in the whole world! Zuck, a murderer (even if he did not kill with his own hands, only sought to make dirty money, very dirty, stained with blood)! Zuckerberg killed many of my friends and almost killed me with his dangerous tools like facebook and insta!

In my country, autistic people are locked up, forcibly interned, psychoanalyzed, drugged, straitjackets... What a fucking shitty country, I'm ashamed of my nationality, this country cleans its image with corruption, censorship, uses mental illness to discredit whistleblowers, arbitrary arrests, wiretapping of independent journalists... That's why my country could be treated like a dictatorship, even if it doesn't seem like it, it knows how to hide its game and use its power to make itself obeyed. But more and more countries hate it and have managed to free themselves from its colonialism, especially in Africa. But we, the disabled, are its prisoners.

I had to wait several decades to finally understand that I was autistic! AND THANK YOU FOREIGNERS, especially Canadians, for their help! On the other hand, I can't judge Canada, only Canadians and foreigners who live there can have their own opinion on life in their country.

I could never know about my mother, she died in atrocious conditions, after a shitty life, without help either. Conditions that I risk suffering, having her genetic diseases. My mother was gifted, she taught me things much better than at school. And my autistic character didn't help her unfortunately. My education was so rotten, violent father, violent school, violent city, that I could have fallen into delinquency!!!!! My conscience saved me from that.

Which Swiss organization is this? I read somewhere on this forum that Pegasos does not require someone to accompany you.

Are you sure, please?

 

[invalidrev]

He said that I didn't tidy my room, that my illnesses (physical, genetic, etc.) were in my head, he said horrible things about me to my teachers, who were his friends (friends from the football club), and these teachers humiliated me by throwing me out every afternoon, at primary school.

Luckily, despite everything, I could learn on my own and much better, by going to the library on the sly, and I spent my time in the toilets to relieve my sick body that had never been treated! I didn't say anything, because it suited me given my health, rather than staying in class and helping others who, instead of thanking me, humiliated me, laughed at me, tried to put their mistakes on my back, like the erased blackboard, so that the teachers would punish me again!!!!!

My father was an accomplice in this. My mother, who was also beaten by my father, didn't know about this! She was abusive in spite of herself, unable to educate me like an ordinary mother, I suspect she was autistic. My country is one of the worst countries in the world for the treatment of autistic people, recognized by the UN for being a country behaving like dictatorships!!!!

On the buses in my city, I was always laughed at, mocked, by all the children and teenagers, even some adults, I was even filmed without my knowledge, it ended up on social networks, because my city had lots of groups, blogs, well locked, etc., dedicated to gossip, humiliations... especially on Facebook! It was always like that. Luckily I am old enough to have lived a childhood without social networks, and a little without phones with cameras. Unfortunately, even in my adult life, I continued to suffer laughter and mockery, to be filmed without my knowledge when these cursed phones began to exist. My city did nothing, and is even an accomplice to these gangs. City that I left without regrets, even after, the inhabitants and elected officials of my childhood city tried to threaten me to make me come back to their shithole of a city.

Honestly, since Trump (I prefer to remain neutral) is elected (I am not American), I hope he will respect his promise to send Mark Zuckerberg to prison for life, given the evil he has done, in the whole world! Zuck, a murderer (even if he did not kill with his own hands, only sought to make dirty money, very dirty, stained with blood)! Zuckerberg killed many of my friends and almost killed me with his dangerous tools like facebook and insta!

In my country, autistic people are locked up, forcibly interned, psychoanalyzed, drugged, straitjackets... What a fucking shitty country, I'm ashamed of my nationality, this country cleans its image with corruption, censorship, uses mental illness to discredit whistleblowers, arbitrary arrests, wiretapping of independent journalists... That's why my country could be treated like a dictatorship, even if it doesn't seem like it, it knows how to hide its game and use its power to make itself obeyed. But more and more countries hate it and have managed to free themselves from its colonialism, especially in Africa. But we, the disabled, are its prisoners.

I had to wait several decades to finally understand that I was autistic! AND THANK YOU FOREIGNERS, especially Canadians, for their help! On the other hand, I can't judge Canada, only Canadians and foreigners who live there can have their own opinion on life in their country.

I could never know about my mother, she died in atrocious conditions, after a shitty life, without help either. Conditions that I risk suffering, having her genetic diseases. My mother was gifted, she taught me things much better than at school. And my autistic character didn't help her unfortunately. My education was so rotten, violent father, violent school, violent city, that I could have fallen into delinquency!!!!! My conscience saved me from that.

Are you sure, please?

@disabledlife I recall reading this on one of the posts in this forum. But I will wait for others on this forum, more knowledgeable than me, to confirm this. Did you go through Pegasos website btw? I think it will be mentioned there as well

 

[j.rez729]

Could someone please tell me how feasible it is for a US citizen to do this? Should I contact one of those organizations? Which one? What do I do first? I only speak English so that will be a barrier to overcome. I will pay anything to get this done, I don't care I'll find the money.

 

[Marsoff]

He said that I didn't tidy my room, that my illnesses (physical, genetic, etc.) were in my head, he said horrible things about me to my teachers, who were his friends (friends from the football club), and these teachers humiliated me by throwing me out every afternoon, at primary school.

Luckily, despite everything, I could learn on my own and much better, by going to the library on the sly, and I spent my time in the toilets to relieve my sick body that had never been treated! I didn't say anything, because it suited me given my health, rather than staying in class and helping others who, instead of thanking me, humiliated me, laughed at me, tried to put their mistakes on my back, like the erased blackboard, so that the teachers would punish me again!!!!!

My father was an accomplice in this. My mother, who was also beaten by my father, didn't know about this! She was abusive in spite of herself, unable to educate me like an ordinary mother, I suspect she was autistic. My country is one of the worst countries in the world for the treatment of autistic people, recognized by the UN for being a country behaving like dictatorships!!!!

On the buses in my city, I was always laughed at, mocked, by all the children and teenagers, even some adults, I was even filmed without my knowledge, it ended up on social networks, because my city had lots of groups, blogs, well locked, etc., dedicated to gossip, humiliations... especially on Facebook! It was always like that. Luckily I am old enough to have lived a childhood without social networks, and a little without phones with cameras. Unfortunately, even in my adult life, I continued to suffer laughter and mockery, to be filmed without my knowledge when these cursed phones began to exist. My city did nothing, and is even an accomplice to these gangs. City that I left without regrets, even after, the inhabitants and elected officials of my childhood city tried to threaten me to make me come back to their shithole of a city.

Honestly, since Trump (I prefer to remain neutral) is elected (I am not American), I hope he will respect his promise to send Mark Zuckerberg to prison for life, given the evil he has done, in the whole world! Zuck, a murderer (even if he did not kill with his own hands, only sought to make dirty money, very dirty, stained with blood)! Zuckerberg killed many of my friends and almost killed me with his dangerous tools like facebook and insta!

In my country, autistic people are locked up, forcibly interned, psychoanalyzed, drugged, straitjackets... What a fucking shitty country, I'm ashamed of my nationality, this country cleans its image with corruption, censorship, uses mental illness to discredit whistleblowers, arbitrary arrests, wiretapping of independent journalists... That's why my country could be treated like a dictatorship, even if it doesn't seem like it, it knows how to hide its game and use its power to make itself obeyed. But more and more countries hate it and have managed to free themselves from its colonialism, especially in Africa. But we, the disabled, are its prisoners.

I had to wait several decades to finally understand that I was autistic! AND THANK YOU FOREIGNERS, especially Canadians, for their help! On the other hand, I can't judge Canada, only Canadians and foreigners who live there can have their own opinion on life in their country.

I could never know about my mother, she died in atrocious conditions, after a shitty life, without help either. Conditions that I risk suffering, having her genetic diseases. My mother was gifted, she taught me things much better than at school. And my autistic character didn't help her unfortunately. My education was so rotten, violent father, violent school, violent city, that I could have fallen into delinquency!!!!! My conscience saved me from that.

Are you sure, please?

Hey. I am autistic as well, we can talk.

 

[sunnyside]

The pegasos FAQ says you do not need family to come with you and that they can make alternative arrangements however you do need to tell your family (even if they don't come)

 

[bluebirds]

The pegasos FAQ says you do not need family to come with you and that they can make alternative arrangements however you do need to tell your family (even if they don't come)

im confused why he is saying that as if pegasos put a condition that a parent need to accompany - when like you said the site says its not required to have anyone accompany you ! Did anyone email them to confirm that it is indeed not required to have a parent come with you, and what alternative arrangements can be done?

 

[J&L383]

Don't rely on information here, use the website and communicate with them directly.

 

[disabledlife]

Don't rely on information here, use the website and communicate with them directly.

It is true indeed, these associations have websites with their contact details. This will not prevent them from confirming what I said. I hope it will not be worse. In Switzerland, there are pro-lifers who are constantly trying to restrict assisted suicide.
I will end up contacting Pegasos, but, being already a member of another association, I am extremely tired of going through the process again, waiting a long time for the green light, paying extra... Too bad this association did not exist earlier, too bad I did not know about SaSu earlier.

 

[searchingforpeace]

I am in the same boat

 

[needthebus]

what is your disability?

i think if your disability is mild, ADHD or Aspergers or Depression, telling a family member you intend to do it is hard because there are some people with aspergers or adhd that end up living decent somewhat happy lives. your family will naturally want to keep you alive if there's any hope, it's just human nature and so you should accept that it's normal for them to react that way

 

[J&L383]

Could someone please tell me how feasible it is for a US citizen to do this? Should I contact one of those organizations? Which one? What do I do first? I only speak English so that will be a barrier to overcome. I will pay anything to get this done, I don't care I'll find the money.

Both Dignitas and Pegasos have English speaking staff. (I am a member of both). Dignitas is better staffed to handle communications, especially from people that aren't members. But I have great respect for Pegasos as well (I received a personal response from the director from a question I had). But for both, the process is somewhat bureaucratic, bound by Swiss laws and rules. Each association handles 200-300 assisted suicides per year, at least a dozen of those are US citizens.