"at least 364 suicides a year .... among people in or moving to long-term care settings or among their caregivers."

[TheBroken]

'A desperate place in the end': Seniors in long-term care turning to suicide

As suicide rates climb, such deaths among older adults – including the 2.2 million who live in long-term care settings – are often overlooked.

www.usatoday.com

 

[locked*n*loaded]

Yeah, I can see that. Actually, sounds way low to me.

 

[lofticries]

It's a shame all these old people couldn't have died peacefully in a bed with a loved one and doctor beside them to assist them in passing.

I hate how ppl make aging to 100 some kind of dream. If you don't have money, a supportive family, and good mental health aging will be hell.

 

[Cryptonite]

What if you are 24 and moving to long-term care settings?

 

[freedompass]

Oh gosh this hits home. It's utterly barbaric that frail older people are having to jump out of 7th floor windows, hang/shoot themselves and suchlike. One is alleged to have taken sleeping pills and suffocated with a plastic bag. That one sounds easy and civilised but too good to be true. I'm 'only' 60 with a decade of chronic suicidality under my belt as well as (so) many episodes of mania with psychosis and depression. My biggest regret? Ever being born in the first place since 'every cradle is a grave' and death looms over every one of us from the womb onwards.

 

[TheBroken]

Yeah, I can see that. Actually, sounds way low to me.

Guessing it is low.

What if you are 24 and moving to long-term care settings?

Hard - very hard.

Oh gosh this hits home. It's utterly barbaric that frail older people are having to jump out of 7th floor windows, hang/shoot themselves and suchlike. One is alleged to have taken sleeping pills and suffocated with a plastic bag. That one sounds easy and civilised but too good to be true. I'm 'only' 60 with a decade of chronic suicidality under my belt as well as (so) many episodes of mania with psychosis and depression. My biggest regret? Ever being born in the first place since 'every cradle is a grave' and death looms over every one of us from the womb onwards.

Just go on job websites where former employees have rated and written stories about care homes. Hell holes on earth and the reason most all my family have said they will not go but instead leave earth on their own terms. The homes hire the cheapest or whatever staff they can get and rape, neglect, abuse often occurs. It's just really terrible how humans can treat each other.

 

[locked*n*loaded]

Guessing it is low.

Hard - very hard.

Just go on job websites where former employees have rated and written stories about care homes. Hell holes on earth and the reason most all my family have said they will not go but instead leave earth on their own terms. The homes hire the cheapest or whatever staff they can get and rape, neglect, abuse often occurs. It's just really terrible how humans can treat each other.

My mother was in one for a while. No, it wasn't the greatest place to be, but, it was necessary. They got her back on her feet so she could get around her home with a walker and then continued to live alone for several years after that. I'm not sure what the answer is if not convalescent homes? My mother wasn't abused or anything. Had an incident where a nurse tried giving her wrong meds, but my mom knew what she was supposed to get and wouldn't take it. No, they're not perfect. Not by a long shot. Until someone comes up with something better, what's another option? My mom would have never wanted to live in one like permanently.

 

[Al Cappella]

"Dena Davis, 72, a bioethics professor at Lehigh University in Pennsylvania. Suicide "could be a rational choice for anyone of any age if they feel that the benefits of their continued life are no longer worth it," she said"

Well that bit is encouraging. Although, with the trend of rights being stripped away, it's hard to find encouragement.

As for the rest, you won't catch me near one of those places if I can help it…

 

[ornitier199]

To die young is better. for me

 

[TheBroken]

My mother was in one for a while. No, it wasn't the greatest place to be, but, it was necessary. They got her back on her feet so she could get around her home with a walker and then continued to live alone for several years after that. I'm not sure what the answer is if not convalescent homes? My mother wasn't abused or anything. Had an incident where a nurse tried giving her wrong meds, but my mom knew what she was supposed to get and wouldn't take it. No, they're not perfect. Not by a long shot. Until someone comes up with something better, what's another option? My mom would have never wanted to live in one like permanently.

Glad it worked out for her. How many years ago was she in a facility? Was she able to afford/pay for a facility of her choosing or just used Medicare or a National health plan of non-US country. Just curious.

 

[FuneralCry]

Old age sounds so horrifying. I certainly want to escape this world before then. The life expectancy is too long. It is cruel to try and force people to suffer until a very old age against their wishes. People should be able to exit peacefully when the time is right for them. No one should have to resort to risky or painful methods.

 

[Darkover]

my sister works for a care company called onecare she calls it nocare because the level of care of offer there is terrible she says it's a residential care facility
our pets get a more dignified death then what we get

 

[rationaltake]

my sister works for a care company called onecare she calls it nocare because the level of care of offer there is terrible she says it's a residential care facility
our pets get a more dignified death then what we get

You're right.

I'm 64 and don't want to carry on. If my life hasn't worked out by now it's not going to.

Why not just let older people go if they want to?

I don't want to be taking up resources.

They must have been so desperate to resort to jumping out of a window or shooting themselves.

What if you are 24 and moving to long-term care settings?

Sounds absolutely awful. So sorry.

Oh gosh this hits home. It's utterly barbaric that frail older people are having to jump out of 7th floor windows, hang/shoot themselves and suchlike. One is alleged to have taken sleeping pills and suffocated with a plastic bag. That one sounds easy and civilised but too good to be true. I'm 'only' 60 with a decade of chronic suicidality under my belt as well as (so) many episodes of mania with psychosis and depression. My biggest regret? Ever being born in the first place since 'every cradle is a grave' and death looms over every one of us from the womb onwards.

I so get it. My life has been awful.

 

[Darkover]

Why not just let older people go if they want to?

because land of the free and all that, because we are not free and the law says assisted suicide is illegal, it should be anyone right to die at a time of their own choosing, it's why i wouldn't want to come back alive here again not without my choice to die there's just too much suffering in the world, to much that can go awrong with life and the appalling quality of it.

 

[rationaltake]

because land of the free and all that, because we are not free and the law says assisted suicide is illegal, it should be anyone right to die at a time of their own choosing, it's why i wouldn't want to come back alive here again not without my choice to die there's just too much suffering in the world, to much that can go awrong with life and the appalling quality of it.

I agree. I'm in the land of pomp and glory though. Which is just as bad I think. Nursing homes here can be atrocious.

 

[locked*n*loaded]

Glad it worked out for her. How many years ago was she in a facility? Was she able to afford/pay for a facility of her choosing or just used Medicare or a National health plan of non-US country. Just curious.

Thanks. She has since passed away though. She was in there about 3 - 1/2 months. Medicare/Medicaid paid for it. However, after she passed and the house was sold, Medicaid (State) reaped the proceeds from the sale of the house to get some of the money back they had put out for her in terms of healthcare over the years. That's how it works here in US.

 

[TheBroken]

Thanks. She has since passed away though. She was in there about 3 - 1/2 months. Medicare/Medicaid paid for it. However, after she passed and the house was sold, Medicaid (State) reaped the proceeds from the sale of the house to get some of the money back they had put out for her in terms of healthcare over the years. That's how it works here in US.

Yes, sadly that is true on getting money. They are now starting to bill children if they have the means to pay. Guy in New York who was well off lost case and had to start paying his mother's Medicare bills. This is expected to be a trend going forward.

 

[Someone123]

Yeah, I can see that. Actually, sounds way low to me.

Definitely sounds low since 46,000 people die per year by suicide in the u.s.

 

[TheBroken]

Yes, sadly that is true on getting money. They are now starting to bill children if they have the means to pay. Guy in New York who was well off lost case and had to start paying his mother's Medicare bills. This is expected to be a trend going forward.

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