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coolcow1289

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Mar 17, 2026
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This has been drilled into me since I was a little kid. In 4th grade, a high schooler in my town killed herself. I remember our DARE officer lecturing us afterwards, saying how selfish and cowardly that decision was. "She took the easy way out!" he said. I still remember it.

So, is it true?

I see the argument. I'm just going to transfer my suffering to others. Because I can't bear it, when others clearly can. So maybe they're right.
 
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tanaka10

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Aug 6, 2024
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I believe we have the right to be sad, melancholic, and to think about ending our lives if we have something truly serious to justify it: an incurable illness, a major trauma (like violence, for example).

But in other cases, no.
Personally, I've never experienced anything traumatic in my life. I've never been abused, I was born in a wealthy country with access to education and healthcare, into a loving and supportive family.

Yet, I can't stop myself: I stay in bed all day, I no longer study, I don't work. Nothing seems to justify this state.
I see myself as weak because I remain subject to this constant sadness, and as a coward because I have suicidal thoughts even though I know it would be terrible for my family, for the people around me. My last act on earth would be to cause suffering to the only people who have ever loved me. From this perspective, mental illness is not a refuge and does not absolve one of the responsibility to seek treatment and self-care. Suicide, under these circumstances, appears to me as something cowardly and weak.
 
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purebliss

"Just be happy" =)
Mar 3, 2026
439
There is absolutely nothing selfish or cowardly about anything about this.

Please always remember: You never asked to be born. You were forced to exist because of a selfish and sadistic wish for false immortality from your parents.

That is all
You don't owe them nothing
They owe you anything

It is your life. Yours alone. Whatever you do with it is just
 
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hurts2b

Tired
Mar 14, 2026
214
Well, I'm (near) completely lacking human relationships. So I don't really need to worry about it :)

My "pain" just dissipates into the air, I guess.
 
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coolcow1289

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I believe we have the right to be sad, melancholic, and to think about ending our lives if we have something truly serious to justify it: an incurable illness, a major trauma (like violence, for example).

But in other cases, no.
Personally, I've never experienced anything traumatic in my life. I've never been abused, I was born in a wealthy country with access to education and healthcare, into a loving and supportive family.

Yet, I can't stop myself: I stay in bed all day, I no longer study, I don't work. Nothing seems to justify this state.
I see myself as weak because I remain subject to this constant sadness, and as a coward because I have suicidal thoughts even though I know it would be terrible for my family, for the people around me. My last act on earth would be to cause suffering to the only people who have ever loved me. From this perspective, mental illness is not a refuge and does not absolve one of the responsibility to seek treatment and self-care. Suicide, under these circumstances, appears to me as something cowardly and weak.
I completely agree with you. Very similar here. I have nothing to justify it. Nothing that isn't my own fault. It's paradoxical that in the west, countries with greater affluence have higher suicide rates.

But at the same time, if being suicidal is caused by weakness, then how is it that it requires so much strength to do.
There is absolutely nothing selfish or cowardly about anything about this.

Please always remember: You never asked to be born. You were forced to exist because of a selfish and sadistic wish for false immortality from your parents.

That is all
You don't owe them nothing
They owe you anything

It is your life. Yours alone. Whatever you do with it is just
Except they did a lot to try and make me happy. I didn't ask to exist, but neither did they. And they worked hard their entire lives to give me comforts and support me.
 
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Forveleth

I knew I forgot to do something when I was 15...
Mar 26, 2024
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I hate that suicide is described as the "cowards way out". Ask anyone to stand on the edge of a 20 story building or look down the barrel of a gun. It is terrifying. It takes a damn crazy amount of courage to end one's life.

As far as selfish, I do not know anyone who would think ending one's emotional suffering "selfish". Does it affect other people negatively? Yes, possibly. But how much suffering should be we asked to endure to spare others? When is it our turn to say we have had enough?

Quite frankly, our lives are ours and we should be free to end them on our terms.
 
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Bitterly_Nostalgic

to me, my x-men
Apr 8, 2026
55
I've said it before, and I'll happily say it again...

Anybody who calls suicide victims cowards or selfish clearly doesn't know a single damn thing about the subject. It's not true, it's an incredibly cruel thing to say and completely unhelpful.

That DARE officer was an absolute asshole. What an awful thing to say about someone who was still just a kid, and what a terrible thing to say to a group of kids! Even if he were involved in investigating the case, he doesn't truly know what she was going through or what led her to make that decision. He doesn't know if any of the kids he was lecturing were struggling and now feel worse after having to listen to him say that shit. I hope none of his family or friends ever have to deal with suicidal ideation, the stupid bastard would probably tell them to just cheer up.
 
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LilGhost

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Apr 8, 2026
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This has been drilled into me since I was a little kid. In 4th grade, a high schooler in my town killed herself. I remember our DARE officer lecturing us afterwards, saying how selfish and cowardly that decision was. "She took the easy way out!" he said. I still remember it.

So, is it true?

I see the argument. I'm just going to transfer my suffering to others. Because I can't bear it, when others clearly can. So maybe they're right.
I can almost bet those who are saying so never actually felt that much of despair to have a ctb attempt. I fucking hate when people call it being a coward. Survival instict is a basic human trait and in order for your conscious to outwin it, you have to go through something you can not recover. Also, humans are selfish af and thats okay. Suicide is selfish therefore is not okay was made by government to justify forcing you to stay as their little money tax bag and continue working for "greater good of society". Thats why psych wards are so fucked up (government wants you to LIVE, not to get better). I heard this argument from same people who then would defend billionaires because "well its their money", hence when billionaires refuse to work for society greater goods (reminder Elon Musk pledged $6B to Solve World Hunger But Gave It to His Own Foundation Instead. He could have solve world hunger and still be a billionaire, but decided not to) they find this type of selfishness okay, but when a person suffers and just wants to stop being in pain, suddenly it is not okay.

Long story short: it is all a government propaganda to keep their valuable human expendables
 
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urgent

Why do I have to suffer unbearably! HELP PLEASE!
Dec 6, 2025
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I have never been selfish. I was always giving, helping, caring for others. I was a giver. It made me happy. I was always strong for others. I've been through years of fighting through physical and mental health issues. I don't think many can stand the pain I'm in every second of the day. I know people don't want you around if you're sick. They want happy healthy people. I want that back. I didn't choose this. It's the hardest thing there is to overcome SI and the guilt and worrying about how others will feel. It shouldn't be this way. If anyone cares about me they should want to see me pain-free in peace. They should know I don't want to go or hurt them but I'm suffering so much. I'm more afraid of living in this broken, sick, painful body. We are all different. I wish someone had the courage to help me out of my agony. I wish for mercy.
 
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coolcow1289

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I can almost bet those who are saying so never actually felt that much of despair to have a ctb attempt. I fucking hate when people call it being a coward. Survival instict is a basic human trait and in order for your conscious to outwin it, you have to go through something you can not recover. Also, humans are selfish af and thats okay. Suicide is selfish therefore is not okay was made by government to justify forcing you to stay as their little money tax bag and continue working for "greater good of society". Thats why psych wards are so fucked up (government wants you to LIVE, not to get better). I heard this argument from same people who then would defend billionaires because "well its their money", hence when billionaires refuse to work for society greater goods (reminder Elon Musk pledged $6B to Solve World Hunger But Gave It to His Own Foundation Instead. He could have solve world hunger and still be a billionaire, but decided not to) they find this type of selfishness okay, but when a person suffers and just wants to stop being in pain, suddenly it is not okay.

Long story short: it is all a government propaganda to keep their valuable human expendables
I agree completely. Western society idolizes selfishness. It's central to our capitalist society. Everyone is just looking out for themselves. Everyone lives and breathes just to make more money to have shinier things and nicer homes and newer cars. But then they clutch their pearls when someone ends THEIR OWN life.

And they do it because it scares them. Because they assign meaning to their lives with materialism and consumerism. And it scares them that it's not enough for some people. It makes them question their own meaning and purpose.

My parents also have given me the "suicide is selfish" lecture, which is rich considering they raised me to be selfish. Hippy atheist libertarians. Their wedding vows were Ayn Rand quotes lmao.
 
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LilGhost

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Apr 8, 2026
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I agree completely. Western society idolizes selfishness. It's central to our capitalist society. Everyone is just looking out for themselves. Everyone lives and breathes just to make more money to have shinier things and nicer homes and newer cars. But then they clutch their pearls when someone ends THEIR OWN life.

And they do it because it scares them. Because they assign meaning to their lives with materialism and consumerism. And it scares them that it's not enough for some people. It makes them question their own meaning and purpose.

My parents also have given me the "suicide is selfish" lecture, which is rich considering they raised me to be selfish. Hippy atheist libertarians. Their wedding vows were Ayn Rand quotes lmao.
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Why do I have to suffer unbearably! HELP PLEASE!
Dec 6, 2025
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I hate that suicide is described as the "cowards way out". Ask anyone to stand on the edge of a 20 story building or look down the barrel of a gun. It is terrifying. It takes a damn crazy amount of courage to end one's life.

As far as selfish, I do not know anyone who would think ending one's emotional suffering "selfish". Does it affect other people negatively? Yes, possibly. But how much suffering should be we asked to endure to spare others? When is it our turn to say we have had enough?

Quite frankly, our lives are ours and we should be free to end them on our terms.
I wish we could end them on our own terms painlessly and without feeling guilt for ending suffering. I wish it was legal to get Nembutal or MAiD privately and legally in every state quicker after trying everything if you are suffering. It doesn't take a year to prove you are in unbearable pain. I'm truly suffering physically too and can't get better. I don't have MAiD and I can't travel or afford Switzerland. I'm suffering excruciating unbearable pain and there's no reason I should have to when there is ways to go. Someone could give me fentanyl. A doctor could prescribe enough I'm sure legally for my illnesses and pain, watch me go, sign the certificate, tell the police diagnosis and I could go be cremated in a few hours but they won't. Why? Why can't I get palliative care or hospice? Why can't I tell a doctor I want sedation to VSED? It's supposed to be legal but they won't approve insurance. If I have gastroparesis so severe why can't I get hospice. I worked all those years, paid taxes, life insurance, health insurance and now I can't even say I want to VSED and have a palliative doctor and care for a few days and to make sure it's clear to police I did so. Any doctors here who can get me palliative care or fent, or veterinarians I've been suffering waiting for you.
 
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ireallywasnttogopls

save our souls
Oct 8, 2023
104
If it is, then so be it.

Why would I care what you think, I'm dead!

Its all subjective op
 
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FoxSauce

Emotionally unstable like an IKEA table
Aug 23, 2024
1,317
Honestly I cant believe things like that but im not surprised. Reminds me of a woman who ended by skydiving basically she didnt open her parachute but I guess thats was the idea.

I read the comments and literally people were saying like: "what a waste." or "what a selfish thing to do." And so on. Mostly was only 2 people commenting. Makes me mad people think like this.

In my personal opinion is more of a cowardice but only applies to me.

Sorry for the ramble
 
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pthnrdnojvsc

Extreme Pain is much worse than people know
Aug 12, 2019
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I wish we could end them on our own terms painlessly and without feeling guilt for ending suffering. I wish it was legal to get Nembutal or MAiD privately and legally in every state quicker after trying everything if you are suffering. It doesn't take a year to prove you are in unbearable pain. I'm truly suffering physically too and can't get better. I don't have MAiD and I can't travel or afford Switzerland. I'm suffering excruciating unbearable pain and there's no reason I should have to when there is ways to go. Someone could give me fentanyl. A doctor could prescribe enough I'm sure legally for my illnesses and pain, watch me go, sign the certificate, tell the police diagnosis and I could go be cremated in a few hours but they won't. Why? Why can't I get palliative care or hospice? Why can't I tell a doctor I want sedation to VSED? It's supposed to be legal but they won't approve insurance. If I have gastroparesis so severe why can't I get hospice. I worked all those years, paid taxes, life insurance, health insurance and now I can't even say I want to VSED and have a palliative doctor and care for a few days and to make sure it's clear to police I did so. Any doctors here who can get me palliative care or fent, or veterinarians I've been suffering waiting for you.

it's not selfish to want to escape a hell that's a trillion times worse than anyone could imagine. also to escape a hell i didn't ask for and that is an evil prison world. and it's nobody's business why or if i want to kill myself.

Nembutal fentanyl morphine heroin can be used for painless Death. but the government monsters made all those and the sarco suicide pod crimes. also they made someone assisting in suicide a crime. so those in extreme torture or who will soon be in extreme torture don't have any guaranteed painless quick escape from a hell a trilion times worse anyone could imagine.

maybe you could find someone to help you i don't know.

just my opinion but you i , anyone suffering extremely has those bastards to blame, those bastards who made every method into a crime

we all are slaves , didn't ask to be here and are suffering but they made it even more of a prison in this evil prison hell

all i have is these hands and trying to get some method decided as we've seen here like a gun , sn , charcoal etc. those are difficult each and then you have to defeat si, do it in secret and these are not guaranteed . but i also have no choice i need to and want to exit this hell. so i have to find some way to decide on and get a method and plan ready to go and do it, take a risk .
 
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urgent

Why do I have to suffer unbearably! HELP PLEASE!
Dec 6, 2025
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it's not selfish to want to escape a hell that's a trillion times worse than anyone could imagine. also to escape a hell i didn't ask for and that is an evil prison world. and it's nobody's business why or if i want to kill myself.

Nembutal fentanyl morphine heroin can be used for painless Death. but the government monsters made all those and the sarco suicide pod crimes. also they made someone assisting in suicide a crime. so those in extreme torture or who will soon be in extreme torture don't have any guaranteed painless quick escape from a hell a trilion times worse anyone could imagine.

maybe you could find someone to help you i don't know.

just my opinion but you i , anyone suffering extremely has those bastards to blame, those bastards who made every method into a crime

we all are slaves , didn't ask to be here and are suffering but they made it even more of a prison in this evil prison hell

all i have is these hands and trying to get some method decided as we've seen here like a gun , sn , charcoal etc. those are difficult each and then you have to defeat si, do it in secret and these are not guaranteed . but i also have no choice i need to and want to exit this hell. so i have to find some way to decide on and get a method and plan ready to go and do it, take a risk .
I agree with you but it's even harder if you get older, weaker, diseases, bedridden. So painful to breathe, eat, can't sleep, pain intense, hard to get privacy sometimes or acess to money, computer, mail.If you have someone who you ask to help doesn't what can you do alone. How do I find an actisvist, someone brave like Dr Kevorkian who is why anyone has the right to die with dignity. We need more doctors to help us do it. Most get off if caught.
 
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tanaka10

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Aug 6, 2024
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Lol, you all have the arguments of the perfect egoist: sadness, suffering, "I didn't choose to live"… but seriously, what do you actually know about suffering?
I work in a hospital, and I see real suffering every single day. People living in miserable conditions, people with truly awful life stories. Imagine this: after more than 50 years of work, a stroke costs you your job, leaves you disabled, the state refuses to provide financial support, you have no children, and you are completely alone. Of course that person develops suicidal thoughts and depression, yet nobody really cares because the healthcare system is already overwhelmed.
What have most of us actually lived through at 20 or 30 years old that pushes us to reject and permanently destroy our own bodies? I'm talking about suicide. You talk about suicide, but in the majority of cases, I'm convinced you will never actually do it.
My point is that for some people, sadness becomes a drug. It temporarily allows them to comfort themselves, to escape the world and their responsibilities. You tell yourself that nothing matters anymore, that you're going to disappear, but it's a trap.
I've seen many specialists in my life who gave me different diagnoses: depression, bipolar disorder, and so on. It's comforting to tell yourself you're ill, because it removes responsibility. You would never tell someone with cancer that they are responsible for their cancer.
But despite that, I know I'm not sick, and I believe that's also true for the vast majority of people on this forum.
Hate me, despise me, me—the person going against your ideas and your adolescent clichés. But when you say, "it's my life, it's my choice," you are being deeply selfish, because you only think about your perceived suffering before considering the suffering of others.
 
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PainThreshold

Shrug off the pain. They'll have to hurt you more.
Feb 3, 2026
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Killing yourself is selfish, forcing people to live is selfish. Neither actions are consented upon by the party involved.

It doesn't matter I suppose, other people aren't responsible for what happens to you. Do what you must.
 
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starboy2k

“I’ve been digging my own grave for years”
May 21, 2025
559
Yall care too much. Who gives a shit about what that weak ass DARE officer has to say.

The same people complaining about suicide being selfish will be the exact same shitheads who would walk past a strung out homeless person without a care in the world ALL WHILE cosplaying as a "loving Christian".

They would be the same ones to push you away and abandon you in the name of "setting boundaries" then cry crocodile tears when you kill yourself for sympathy hugs.

None of that shit matters when you die. Simple.
 
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witchcraft

it's too painful to live but I'm too afraid to die
Nov 27, 2024
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Lecturing kids in 4th grade about the suicide of a high schooler just seems completely out of place and inappropriate.

Anyway, nobody has the moral high ground here. People will insist that the suicidal suffer without offering any solutions. Or the suicidal will kill themselves and others will suffer for it, assuming anybody cares about them in anything other than a utilitarian way (meaning: great, now I have to hire a replacement employee). It's fair to nobody. What if all this talk of fairness is just a cope? Convincing themselves that they're not going to kill themselves because they're somehow morally superior, and in reality they're the real coward, too afraid to do it?

This false dilemma is the real judgmental trap, imo. Judgmental in both senses of the word. Dog chasing its own tail. The suffering of others is supposed to be more important than mine, so I'm selfish? Do people even listen to themselves? Who is the arbiter of this? Who measures this? Who is the God walking among us? What's the efficacy, the track record of guilt tripping the suicidal—are we flattening the curve yet?

I'm choosing (and struggling) to stay alive until my parents pass. This is my own choice based on personal experiences, not some kind of objective scientific litmus test that I have used to analyze my circumstances. I'm not choosing this so I can come on here and flex about how "noble" I am. That's all bullshit self-aggrandizement. Some people in my shoes would be jumping for joy, others would have already killed themselves, and so far I'm choosing to kill myself after my parents die so that I do not contribute to their suffering. Not because I "have to" but because I want to do it this way, personally.

Whether I'm a coward is nobody's fucking business except mine. Sometimes I think I am, and then I try for a while and remember why I wanted to die in the first place: trying doesn't matter, life isn't enjoyable nor worth it by any other metric, and I didn't ask to be here. Sure, nobody asked to be here, but it was ultimately their choice to stay. Good for them, that's not my problem, it's their choice. I don't owe them anything. If they care so much about my choice, they can actually help me. Oh, what's that, I'm not entitled to help? Oh, what a beautiful full circle we've drawn. Oh, how wonderful it is to arrive yet again at the same philosophical impasse. What a waste of fucking time. Just intellectual blue balling.

If they don't substantively help, then it's no different than moral grandstanding. My choice to kill myself will ultimately not be based on the dumbass opinions of irrelevant third-parties who know nothing about me and just use their own life as a yardstick to measure me against, waiting to inflate their ego with my last breath.
 
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Mar 19, 2026
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i'm always going to feel selfish because i'm going to cause a wave of distraught people who i love / love me & i just don't think that's fair, no matter what someone tells me. cowardly tho? definitely not. doing the deed is HARD.
 
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peacebenow

Enough
Apr 26, 2026
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I will always dislike that phrase " the easy way out" in regards to this. it has kept ringing in my head the few past weeks and it makes me upset because it is far from it.
 
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“I’ve been digging my own grave for years”
May 21, 2025
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I don't owe them anything. If they care so much about my choice, they can actually help me. Oh, what's that, I'm not entitled to help?
They want the fanfare of saying they helped someone not kill themselves, but the moment they actually have to put skin in the game all of a sudden you're asking for too much.
🤝🤝🤝 (comment I made from another thread)
 
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BlueMist96

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May 12, 2026
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"You don't like the system? Then why are you participating in it?"

"You want to stop participating? Wow, you're such a selfish coward."

Fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you
 
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Isolatedloser

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Dec 14, 2024
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"You don't like the system? Then why are you participating in it?"

"You want to stop participating? Wow, you're such a selfish coward."

Fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you
It's so ignorant how some people miss the most obvious shit about how life can fucking suck.
 
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Forever Sleep

Earned it we have...
May 4, 2022
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It is kind of simultaneously- all of these things and, none of them- depending on which viewpoint you favour.

I suppose it's brave to keep living in some ways but then- surely, there needs to be a good enough reason to live. Otherwise, isn't it more like stupidity to continue to live only to suffer?

Many suicide methods require a great deal of courage to enact. Surely- simply getting over the SI to be afraid in a life threatening situation requires courage.

Yes, it's selfish to knowingly inflict grief on our loved ones. On the flip side though- it's selfish of them to want/ expect us to live in pain/ discomfort. Only so they don't get to experience missing us.

Also- in polls I've run here in the past- nearly 80% of members wish they'd never been born to begin with! Given the choice- we wouldn't be inflicting this grief on our loved ones. We wouldn't even be in the situation where our actions were being judged as cowardly. So- I'd argue that birthing a sentient being into this trap is a far more selfish act than being in enormous discomfort and wanting to escape from it.

So- while all descriptions can be true- I tend to think it all comes down to the fact we didn't consent to any of this. It's unreasonable therefore- to then pass judgement over how we react to the (difficult) life we didn't ask for in the first place. That's my feeling.
 
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FuneralCry

Just wanting some peace
Sep 24, 2020
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No the selfish ones are those who impose this dreadful, torturous existence in the first place and do all they can to force others to suffer against their wishes, for me ceasing to exist is the positive solution to find peace from this existence I just always saw as the most terrible mistake that just never should had been imposed.

I'll just always see it as an abomination to suffer in this existence, all I want is to be permanently unconscious free from all torture and suffering in this existence where there is no limit as to how much agony one can feel.

It's so horrific how existing beings are tortured every second, there truly is so much evil in existing, all that existence ever does is just cause all this cruelty, pain and suffering and I find it so painful how a human can suffer for decades longer just to face the terrible extreme agony of old age, anti-suicide is just horrific extreme cruelty, all that these people do is just torture others way more, it's such a terrible crime how we exist in this reality where the suffering and torture of existing is seen as to force and prolong no matter what.
 
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May 3, 2026
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What an awful thing for them to say about that girl!! I don't think we are selfish at all! I believe most of us wait it out for family and friends to be there for them! We just aren't understood!! Maybe if people try to enter our world and understand our thoughts, then they would understand why we must leave!

I hate the stigmas and how people try to depict us as a group of crazy irrational people. The truth is we sre really strong people to keep getting up everyday know that day will be hell like the day before and mostly for our kids, family and loved ones. Once we leave, then they will try to find the answers...
 
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coolcow1289

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Yall care too much. Who gives a shit about what that weak ass DARE officer has to say.

The same people complaining about suicide being selfish will be the exact same shitheads who would walk past a strung out homeless person without a care in the world ALL WHILE cosplaying as a "loving Christian".

They would be the same ones to push you away and abandon you in the name of "setting boundaries" then cry crocodile tears when you kill yourself for sympathy hugs.

None of that shit matters when you die. Simple.
In my defense I thought he was really cool, back then. He told us about how he stopped a bank robber on horseback. And I looked it up and it was true, he actually did that.

And I think that's a fair assessment for society at large. But what about actual loved ones? Family and close friends? Suicide definitely affects good innocent people who don't deserve it.
 
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In my defense I thought he was really cool, back then. He told us about how he stopped a bank robber on horseback. And I looked it up and it was true, he actually did that.

And I think that's a fair assessment for society at large. But what about actual loved ones? Family and close friends? Suicide definitely affects good innocent people who don't deserve it.
oh well.
things affects people every damn day, whether its family or friends, or the suicidal person themselves.
not every suicidal person has the support group or the family and friends you think would be sad about it….not everyone's life is a hallmark movie.

ps. I dont give a shit if some officer stopped a robber on a damn horse. What he said about a high schooler he had no knowledge of other than her suicide was disgusting. full stop.
 
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