Method Abortion

[notreallybored]

ב''ה,

Possibly goofing around at least with the 'Method' tag, but seriously, as far as legalization,

In jurisdictions that do permit abortion, and note that that kind of conventional "Pro Life" thinking is rooted in Chr_stian confusion that 'sending souls to purgatory' makes extra work for G-d when it really just births more serfs for the pope, and anti-Semiticly parodies the actual problem in Judaism where improper burial custom is discourteous for making the resurrection have to be more miraculous,

Surely if the mother is deserving of abortion the fetus brought to term is equally deserving and eventually should be of age to consent to the same autonomy as the mother.

Thus a sworn statement that, at the time of conception or birth the patient believes the mother did not intend them to suffer might be enough womens' empowerment for a 'progressive' judge to allow the age of majority 'late term abortion' the euthanasia industry has always joked about.

Thereafter, if a parent contests the patient's sworn statement it's de minimis because the 'fetus' is past the age of majority and had their 1A right to make it and any notional legal injury to the parent of an adult doesn't override the adult's medical autonomy.

Could actually fly as far as legally recognizing it's the same procedure, the sworn statement is over the top but placates the whole feminist logic of maternal authority over life and death while neatly wrapping up the logic that it is conceptually the same medical procedure.

And worth it just to see even one parent make the "Pro Suffering" argument, as might reform the whole conception of personal choice to no longer participate in the worldly mess.

 

[ctb_warrior]

What I feel is why to get pregnant in the first place. In case, the protection didn't work, there are contraceptive that be taken within 72 hours, that's a good enough time to decide what to do.

Secondly, I strongly feel, as the world is moving towards chaos, parents should avoid child birth. If either parent has depression or any sort of illness, then the parents should not even think of child birth.

 

[tonicer]

I never really cared about if people get abortions. I am a Christian but if a woman wants an abortion she wouldn't be a good mother anyway. So it is in the best interest of the unborn child that it never becomes that woman's child. Too many parents abuse their children because they don't love them.

If a woman needs an abortion to safe her life or it was conceived via rape then that is also totally legit obviously.

The following might be a bit controversial for some but i have first hand experience in the matter.
If the child is going to be neurally disabled i think an abortion is also okay.
I grew up with mentally and slightly physically disabled step sisters and that is a burden that is too much for a lot of parents to bear. Their mother committed suicide by taking a mixture of pills and alcohol when both where still very young but already diagnosed with their brain issues.

I am also disabled (i see my ugliness as a disability because it keeps me from getting work or friends or romance) and often wish i was aborted.

 

[ctb_warrior]

I never really cared about if people get abortions. I am a Christian but if a woman wants an abortion she wouldn't be a good mother anyway. So it is in the best interest of the unborn child that it never becomes that woman's child. Too many parents abuse their children because they don't love them.

If a woman needs an abortion to safe her life or it was conceived via rape then that is also totally legit obviously.

The following might be a bit controversial for some but i have first hand experience in the matter.
If the child is going to be neurally disabled i think an abortion is also okay.
I grew up with mentally and slightly physically disabled step sisters and that is a burden that is too much for a lot of parents to bear. Their mother committed suicide by taking a mixture of pills and alcohol when both where still very young but already diagnosed with their brain issues.

I am also disabled (i see my ugliness as a disability because it keeps me from getting work or friends or romance) and often wish i was aborted.

What you said is very true and sounds logical. I also wish i was never born.
Btw do not call yourself ugly. You are a beautiful creation of God..and physical beauty really doesn't matter. What matters is your personality. When you are comfortable in your skin, you start becoming confident and that confidence leads to charisma.
I'll give you my fav example of this. One of my female manager was ugly as fck. She would edit it so much with all the filters and all, and she would still look so ugly. She had an ugly heart. She was still confident about herself. Me and my junior used to joke around that we have to face this toxic manager for 8 hours only what about her husband who has see her ugly face 24 hours a day. We used to laugh that how desperate would her husband be to marry such a toxic ugly lady.
Anyways, that was to lighten up the mood. But we have something to learn from that lady, to be confident despite not having good looks. And if someone as ugly as she can be confident.. you surely can be.. I'm 100% sure you are 100 times better looking than that lady

 

[tonicer]

What you said is very true and sounds logical. I also wish i was never born.
Btw do not call yourself ugly. You are a beautiful creation of God..and physical beauty really doesn't matter. What matters is your personality. When you are comfortable in your skin, you start becoming confident and that confidence leads to charisma.
I'll give you my fav example of this. One of my female manager was ugly as fck. She would edit it so much with all the filters and all, and she would still look so ugly. She had an ugly heart. She was still confident about herself. Me and my junior used to joke around that we have to face this toxic manager for 8 hours only what about her husband who has see her ugly face 24 hours a day. We used to laugh that how desperate would her husband be to marry such a toxic ugly lady.
Anyways, that was to lighten up the mood. But we have something to learn from that lady, to be confident despite not having good looks. And if someone as ugly as she can be confident.. you surely can be.. I'm 100% sure you are 100 times better looking than that lady

That's very nice of you to say but after decades of being treated like a monster it's hard if not impossible to change how i see myself.

 

[ctb_warrior]

That's very nice of you to say but after decades of being treated like a monster it's hard if not impossible to change how i see myself.

I can understand and that's really awful that society made you feel that way. Just know, you are a beautiful person. And are just as beautiful as any other creation of God.
And don't think much about it now, you are here at SaSu. We care for you irrespective of anything

 

[kunikuzushi]

What I feel is why to get pregnant in the first place. In case, the protection didn't work, there are contraceptive that be taken within 72 hours, that's a good enough time to decide what to do.

Secondly, I strongly feel, as the world is moving towards chaos, parents should avoid child birth. If either parent has depression or any sort of illness, then the parents should not even think of child birth.

I'm antinatalist, and I agree with you. But how are you supposed to know if the protection didn't work every time you have sex? You can't tell if you're pregnant within 72 hours. Which is why abortion makes sense to me for an accidental pregnancy.

 

[itsgone2]

If a woman needs an abortion to safe her life or it was conceived via rape then that is also totally legit obviously.

I think this would be ok if we were exciting rapists.
If the act i warrants the death of a child, it certainly warrants the death of the perpetrator.

And murder or rape is grounds for execution, imo.