Story 1, 2, 3 strikes and you're out?

[StarryEyed]

1. Passive euthanasia: I signed up for passive euthanasia 10 years ago through a law here in Spain for advanced directives in the situation of firstly being diagnosed with an incurable disease, secondly there being no cure and thirdly not being able to communicate my treatment desires. I checked off "no" on all the many pages of possible treatments, with the exception of pain medication. It is a long shot, but just in case, I had one foot in the grave 10 years ago. These advance directives are on my chart at all hospitals.

2. DNR order: Two weeks ago, I registered a Do Not Resuscitate Order advance directive on my hospital chart. This means if I have heart problems or lung problems that require CPR (cardiopulmonary resuscitation), they are not allowed to give me CPR. But if something happens outside of the hospital, if they do not have access to my chart, it may be that I am still given CPR.

3. Euthanasia: Since 2021, euthanasia has been legal in Spain. I am now starting the process. Hopefully this is my third strike and I'm out.

Have you taken any steps towards suicide, apart from having tried suicide yourself?

 

[Forveleth]

I am a healthy 40 year old on the US. There are no assisted suicide options for me and no doctor is going to sign a DNR order for me. I am on my own, unfortunately.

 

[iw2live_idkhow]

I am a healthy 40 year old on the US. There are no assisted suicide options for me and no doctor is going to sign a DNR order for me. I am on my own, unfortunately.

In this situation in the UK. What's more, the current government doesn't seem to want me to exist, so like, why can't they just arrange a way to make that happen peacefully or something.

 

[imOK]

Have you taken any steps towards suicide, apart from having tried suicide yourself?

I'm in the unique position to get spanish citizenship and even considered it just because of this. From all sources I read online though, it's just incredibly unlikely if you're not very ill even if the law technically offers it. Also moving would cost me a lot of money. Good luck, at any rate. Keep us updated!

 

[StarryEyed]

I am a healthy 40 year old on the US. There are no assisted suicide options for me and no doctor is going to sign a DNR order for me. I am on my own, unfortunately.

Have you tried, perhaps based on your mental health, assuming you're here based on that? Maybe others have tried before you and you can add your name to the list of people trying. Euthanasia laws don't come about magically, but because people have fought for them. Maybe your voice can make a difference? If not in your lifetime, maybe someone else's?

I found this very clear guideline of the process of getting a DNR in the States, from Medline Plus:

Do-not-resuscitate order: MedlinePlus Medical Encyclopedia

A do-not-resuscitate order, or DNR order, is a medical order written by a health care provider. It instructs providers not to do CPR (cardiopulmonary resuscitation) if a patient's breathing stops or if

medlineplus.gov

Thank you for your reply.

In this situation in the UK. What's more, the current government doesn't seem to want me to exist, so like, why can't they just arrange a way to make that happen peacefully or something.

Are you sure you can't do it? It seems to me based on this NHS site that everyone has a right to a DNR status. In the UK it's called "Do not attempt cardiopulmonary resuscitation (DNACPR)". Here's the link with the info:

Do not attempt cardiopulmonary resuscitation (DNACPR) decisions

DNACPR means if your heart or breathing stops your healthcare team will not try to restart it. A DNACPR decision is made by you and/or your doctor or healthcare team.

www.nhs.uk

Thank you for your reply.

I'm in the unique position to get spanish citizenship and even considered it just because of this. From all sources I read online though, it's just incredibly unlikely if you're not very ill even if the law technically offers it. Also moving would cost me a lot of money. Good luck, at any rate. Keep us updated!

Yes, it's very hard to claim without serious medical illness. But it can be done. Here's an article that speaks to that issue. Bear in mind this was written two years ago:

Persons with mental disorders and assisted dying practices in Spain: An overview

On 25 June 2021, the Law on Euthanasia in Spain came into force, providing for two modes of helping an individual end their life: euthanasia and/or me…

www.sciencedirect.com

Thank you for your reply.