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watereyes

watereyes

les malheurs de lizzie
Mar 27, 2020
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I've been researching for a few days now everywhere on the internet and this forum, most accounts are at least a year old, some are disheartening and some make me hopeful. Unfortunately my mental health is catastrophic despite having many friends, a job etc, I enjoy nothing in life and suffer immensely from it.
I'm planning to go on a trip to countries listed in the PPH, right now I am planning:

--Peru--
Arequipa
Ica

--Bolivia--
Santa Cruz
La paz

Cuzco or Lima seem like they won't be worth it as people have been turned away before.

I do speak Spanish, but not too well, so I will be a noticeable foreigner. Also I'm a rather short, frail girl, so I am a little bit worried about my safety in these countries, though I never went and don't know exactly how dangerous it is.

I understand that the chances of getting N are rather low, but still I need to try it, I don't really have other hopes at the moment.

I'll use this post to provide updates, will probably travel in June of this year. If I cancel I'll update.


If any of you have advice, testimonies, or are locals, I'm interested in anything
 
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dewdfish

Student
Nov 30, 2025
160
I'm sorry that you're going through all those things.
I live in South America, have visited the places you're going to and I'd say to be very careful, girl. I hope you end up finding it <3
 
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Willy Wonka

Willy Wonka

Experienced
Dec 15, 2021
209
good luck, looking forward to you keeping us updated! <3
 
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SASU-KE

SASU-KE

How my day starts ↑
Nov 26, 2025
467
Calling in someone who has some info about this,

@wyo777
 
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Defenestration

Defenestration

I want to have the courage to kill myself
Oct 25, 2020
2,019
Je fais des recherches depuis quelques jours sur internet et sur ce forum. La plupart des témoignages datent d'au moins un an ; certains sont décourageants, d'autres me redonnent espoir. Malheureusement, mon état mental est catastrophique malgré de nombreux amis, un travail, etc. Je ne prends aucun plaisir à la vie et j'en souffre énormément.
Je prévois de faire un voyage dans les pays figurant sur la liste du PPH ; pour l'instant, je planifie :

--Pérou--
Arequipa
Ica

--Bolivie--
Santa Cruz
La paix

Cuzco et Lima ne semblent pas valoir le coup, car des gens se sont déjà vu refuser l'entrée.

Je parle espagnol, mais pas très bien, donc je serai certainement une étrangère. De plus, je suis plutôt petite et fragile, ce qui m'inquiète un peu pour ma sécurité dans ces pays, même si je n'y suis jamais allée et que je ne sais pas exactement à quel point c'est dangereux.

Je comprends que les chances d'obtenir N sont plutĂ´t faibles, mais je dois quand mĂŞme essayer, je n'ai pas vraiment d'autres espoirs pour le moment.

J'utiliserai ce fil de discussion pour vous tenir au courant. Je prévois de voyager en juin prochain. En cas d'annulation, je vous informerai.


Si vous avez des conseils, des témoignages ou si vous êtes du coin, je suis intéressé par tout.
Soutien total de la France🇫🇷🇫🇷🇫🇷
I know you are french also
 
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watereyes

watereyes

les malheurs de lizzie
Mar 27, 2020
748
I'm sorry that you're going through all those things.
I live in South America, have visited the places you're going to and I'd say to be very careful, girl. I hope you end up finding it <3
You tell me I should be careful, about the N, or because I'm a girl?

Besides, it's good to know someone here is from South America. If you wanna join and help me, you can PM.
 
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IronMed

Member
Mar 2, 2025
28
South American here. You have a certain rationale to plan your trip, however, you will inadvertently end up ticking boxes that will put you in very dangerous situations, and very bad things can happen to you. It's not a safe idea. Things can take a number of bad turns for you, I would reconsider that plan if I was you.

It's like wanting to go to a warzone hoping to find a gun to use it as a suicide means.
 
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watereyes

watereyes

les malheurs de lizzie
Mar 27, 2020
748
South American here. You have a certain rationale to plan your trip, however, you will inadvertently end up ticking boxes that will put you in very dangerous situations, and very bad things can happen to you. It's not a safe idea. Things can take a number of bad turns for you, I would reconsider that plan if I was you.

It's like wanting to go to a warzone hoping to find a gun to use it as a suicide means.
I know that South America is dangerous, but do you have specific examples of the danger I'm exposing myself to? I'm not planning on messing with criminals or whatever. I just want to fly to Lima, take the bus to a few different cities, and ask the agrovets for N, no bribe or anything. I'll dress like shit obviously as I dont want people to look at me cuz I'm a girl. BUT I never went, and my spanish is a little sloppy. But I would like to know the specifics.
 
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wyo777

When life is a nightmare...
May 18, 2024
309
Calling in someone who has some info about this,

@wyo777
Thx, yes, i can help with accomodation, food etc in Peru. I can also give some advice.
 
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metfan647

Experienced
Jun 12, 2025
279
Do you have other motives for your travel? I mean, if you get hold of N, would you try to bring it back?
Bought the tickets! Will arrive in


You tell me I should be careful, about the N, or because I'm a girl?

Besides, it's good to know someone here is from South America. If you wanna join and help me, you can PM.

I'd delete that top line if I were you. There's a lot of details in this thread that can be pieced together. Just to be extra cautious.
 
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Unicr0n

Unicr0n

Stuck in a black hole...
Mar 26, 2024
262
I know that South America is dangerous, but do you have specific examples of the danger I'm exposing myself to? I'm not planning on messing with criminals or whatever. I just want to fly to Lima, take the bus to a few different cities, and ask the agrovets for N, no bribe or anything. I'll dress like shit obviously as I dont want people to look at me cuz I'm a girl
Dressing poorly is not enough, if you're conventionally attractive. Kidnapping/rape and being forced into sex trafficking is too much of a risk. Would recommend traveling with at least one other person if you're not like a 3/10 or lower. If you're ugly as fuck (truly ugly and not "I think I'm ugly uwu"), you're more likely to be left alone.
 
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metfan647

Experienced
Jun 12, 2025
279
Dressing poorly is not enough, if you're conventionally attractive. Kidnapping/rape and being forced into sex trafficking is too much of a risk. Would recommend traveling with at least one other person if you're not like a 3/10 or lower. If you're ugly as fuck (truly ugly and not "I think I'm ugly uwu"), you're more likely to be left alone.

I see you edited to downgrade from 4/10 to 3/10. They sure do cast a wide net.
 
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watereyes

watereyes

les malheurs de lizzie
Mar 27, 2020
748
Do you have other motives for your travel? I mean, if you get hold of N, would you try to bring it back?


I'd delete that top line if I were you. There's a lot of details in this thread that can be pieced together. Just to be extra cautious.
in that case delete the top line in the quote, too. I deleted it in my post.
 
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Bootleg Astolfo

Bootleg Astolfo

Glorious Bean Plushie
Oct 12, 2020
1,068
What in the weird wacky Indiana Jones adventure is that
 
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watereyes

watereyes

les malheurs de lizzie
Mar 27, 2020
748
What in the weird wacky Indiana Jones adventure is that
gotta go out with a bang I guess! (just kidding. but might as well have a nice trip and provide useful info rather than jump under a train near me and have my family have to identify my remains....)
 
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Bootleg Astolfo

Bootleg Astolfo

Glorious Bean Plushie
Oct 12, 2020
1,068
gotta go out with a bang I guess! (just kidding. but might as well have a nice trip and provide useful info rather than jump under a train near me and have my family have to identify my remains....)
Aren't you french, can't you just like, start singing a solo song near a barricade of the revolution then get Gavroched ?
I assume France is under a constant state of révolution and you can easily just join in a Les Mis style face off against whatever La Grande Armée is now.
 
dewdfish

dewdfish

Student
Nov 30, 2025
160
You tell me I should be careful, about the N, or because I'm a girl?

Besides, it's good to know someone here is from South America. If you wanna join and help me, you can PM.
Both! There's a lot of scammers out there, and if they suspect you're alone, it can be a bit dangerous
 
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