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Praestat_Mori

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To answer your question: If you change a proven protocol and especially if you remove an ingredient it won't work exactly the same.

It's like baking bred, if you don't add yeast it's not working exactly the same way.
 
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kvsvenky100

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Dec 7, 2023
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To answer your question: If you change a proven protocol and especially if you remove an ingredient it won't work exactly the same.

It's like baking bred, if you don't add yeast it's not working exactly the same way.
But does morphine really make that much of a difference given that 80% of the components are there?
 
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Praestat_Mori

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But does morphine really make that much of a difference given that 80% of the components are there?
I would assume that the mix without morphine is lethal by itself.

Considering that it contains the Amitriptyline Method, that is also mentioned in the PPH as a "stand-alone method".

This isn't a medical advice.

Idk how much difference it makes.
 
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I would assume that the mix without morphine is lethal by itself.

Considering that it contains the Amitriptyline Method, which is also mentioned in the PPH as a "stand-alone method".

This isn't a medical advice.

Idk how much difference it makes.
Yeah and one more question, can lorazepam be used in place of diazepam?
 
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Praestat_Mori

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Yeah and one more question, can lorazepam be used in place of diazepam?
This is also a question I cannot answer, there's a difference between short and long acting Benzos.

As far as it can be replaced and the actual amount needed, I have no idea.
 
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The main lethal ingredients are Digoxin and Amitriptyline, which are cardiotoxic and bring about cardiac arrhythmia and, in the end, cardiac arrest.

Morphine serves these purposes:
  • Might be lethal on its own (15g is an awful lot, even though oral bioavailability is poor)
  • Promotes analgesia and deep sleep
  • in combination with the other drugs, it increases the risk of respiratory and CNS depression
Unfortunately, it also slows intestinal motility and is likely to cause nausea.

IMHO, you can skip it or, even better, use another synthetic opioid (maybe snorted).

Even though Amitriptyline has a sedating effect on its own, a heavy dose of a long-acting benzo like diazepam (Valium) is required to make sure you stay asleep the whole time. The benzo Equivalence table may help you.

Also remember there are other benzos which are legal and apparently easy to buy on research chemicals websites.
 

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