Why should we hurt others just for wanting to stop suffering?

[edu0z]

When I was in the hospital, therapists constantly repeat to me: "Do you really want to do that to people who love you?", or "Think of everyone who loves you, if you keep trying one day you will die for real"... Even a girl told me, "I'm a mother, and I think if one of my children died, I would go after him." FUCK, they don't realize that this only generates more stress?... Of course I don't want to hurt anyone, least of all those who have always supported me, but what they don't know is that everyone is going to be better off when I'm gone. I do not ask to come to this world, I DO NOT ASK TO BE BORN... FUCK, I just want everything to end at once, let my mind rest, why every decision has to be so complicated?... Others should be happy and support us and at least show us that they can go on with their lives without us...

 

[Fadeawaaaay]

When I was in the hospital, therapists constantly repeat to me: "Do you really want to do that to people who love you?", or "Think of everyone who loves you, if you keep trying one day you will die for real"... Even a girl told me, "I'm a mother, and I think if one of my children died, I would go after him." FUCK, they don't realize that this only generates more stress?... Of course I don't want to hurt anyone, least of all those who have always supported me, but what they don't know is that everyone is going to be better off when I'm gone. I do not ask to come to this world, I DO NOT ASK TO BE BORN... FUCK, I just want everything to end at once, let my mind rest, why every decision has to be so complicated?... Others should be happy and support us and at least show us that they can go on with their lives without us...

Yeah it's crazy … If you've never been suicidal I think most people have no idea what it's like

 

[VKVK]

Those people probably really do have at least a couple of others in their lives who do deeply care about them and make/made them feel loved, and vice-versa. They can't even comprehend the things you're feeling. They were never put on that path.They don't get it, and they never will.

Don't let their empty words hurt you any more than your painful situation already does.

 

[Party__3nd5]

This is a difficult sittuation, maybe in this same persons who don´t leave your conscience go out of this world, be the persons who can support you to take a decision, off course, first they save "the life can be better", etc, but its a option. If u considare its a bad option, I think that first and foremost, is that it is your life, ruled by death, and there is nothing freer than choosing your death, especially if there is no way to stop with the suffering. Hope this help u in something.

 

[edu0z]

This is a difficult sittuation, maybe in this same persons who don´t leave your conscience go out of this world, be the persons who can support you to take a decision, off course, first they save "the life can be better", etc, but its a option. If u considare its a bad option, I think that first and foremost, is that it is your life, ruled by death, and there is nothing freer than choosing your death, especially if there is no way to stop with the suffering. Hope this help u in something.

thanks

 

[Snake of Eden]

Yes it is very complicated. Not only we have to overcome SI and related fears of possible hell afterwards and all that but we have to contend with causing our loved ones great deal of pain and confusion maybe even alot of shame and social stigma.

 

[Flying Away]

Yes it is very complicated. Not only we have to overcome SI and related fears of possible hell afterwards and all that but we have to contend with causing our loved ones great deal of pain and confusion maybe even alot of shame and social stigma.

Firstly hell. Are you taking the piss? Secondly if family gave a shit they might have noticed.

 

[Snake of Eden]

Firstly hell. Are you taking the piss? Secondly if family gave a shit they might have noticed.

I dont really understand what you are trying to say

 

[layne2001]

I have this fantasy in my head of everyone in my life being okay with my suicide and even supportive of it. I wish I could go surrounded by them and feeling love, not alone and desperate. Like, I want to die and that's not changing, so I just wish it could be done peacefully and with dignity like euthanasia. Most people who havent been suicidal for long periods of time dont understand this feeling. And I guess suicide ultimately is selfish but its also selfish of everyone else to expect you to stay here against your will and also deny to care for you which is most cases. People who've been depressed for ages who received zero support/help from their family and friends commit suicide and then these people have the balls to act like they were victims of their death, and not the person who was neglected..

 

[edu0z]

I have this fantasy in my head of everyone in my life being okay with my suicide and even supportive of it. I wish I could go surrounded by them and feeling love, not alone and desperate. Like, I want to die and that's not changing, so I just wish it could be done peacefully and with dignity like euthanasia. Most people who havent been suicidal for long periods of time dont understand this feeling. And I guess suicide ultimately is selfish but its also selfish of everyone else to expect you to stay here against your will and also deny to care for you which is most cases. People who've been depressed for ages who received zero support/help from their family and friends commit suicide and then these people have the balls to act like they were victims of their death, and not the person who was neglected..

euthanasia must be legal in all countrys... people can be pretty egoist in some cases.

 

[Itsbeenalongtime]

When I was in the hospital, therapists constantly repeat to me: "Do you really want to do that to people who love you?", or "Think of everyone who loves you, if you keep trying one day you will die for real"... Even a girl told me, "I'm a mother, and I think if one of my children died, I would go after him." FUCK, they don't realize that this only generates more stress?... Of course I don't want to hurt anyone, least of all those who have always supported me, but what they don't know is that everyone is going to be better off when I'm gone. I do not ask to come to this world, I DO NOT ASK TO BE BORN... FUCK, I just want everything to end at once, let my mind rest, why every decision has to be so complicated?... Others should be happy and support us and at least show us that they can go on with their lives without us...

I hate hate HATE when people do this. My mum always tells me she'd follow me if i died, like shut up? Now I just feel guilty on top of what I'm already experiencing? My boyfriend at least just tells me hed be sad and not know what to do, which is understandable. I do not want to hurt my loved ones but people have 0 clue about what it actually feels like. I will leave them with what I can and I understand it will be painful but people die all the time and you do just have to get on with it after a while. When my grandparents died after long battles with cancer I was happy for them when everyone else was sad (they had communicated that they were ready) and of course I missed them and was upset that I couldnt see them again but why cant people just be glad their loved one no longer has to suffer? Metal pain is treated so differently from physical pain. Those hospital therapists need a new job.

 

[layne2001]

euthanasia must be legal in all countrys... people can be pretty egoist in some cases.

I agree, people struggling with chronic depression with seemingly no chances of getting better (plenty of people simply dont react to treatment) deserve it... Im not sure if any country currently allows euthanasia for depressed people but it should be an option

 

[Itsbeenalongtime]

I agree, people struggling with chronic depression with seemingly no chances of getting better (plenty of people simply dont react to treatment) deserve it... Im not sure if any country currently allows euthanasia for depressed people but it should be an option

I know in the Netherlands they allow people to access assisted suicide for psychiatric problems but Im unsure what the exact qualifiers are

 

[Zzzzz]

Nobody should live in suffering and servitude for the sake of others .My pain is too unbearable for me to consider how others will feel. Besides, if life is such a fucking precious little gift one more death shouldn't be a big setback for them.

 

[Ego Sum Medusa]

Nobody should live in suffering and servitude for the sake of others .My pain is too unbearable for me to consider how others will feel. Besides, if life is such a fucking precious little gift one more death shouldn't be a big setback for them.

That is a sound argument, only if you don't have children.

I hate hate HATE when people do this. My mum always tells me she'd follow me if i died, like shut up? Now I just feel guilty on top of what I'm already experiencing? My boyfriend at least just tells me hed be sad and not know what to do, which is understandable. I do not want to hurt my loved ones but people have 0 clue about what it actually feels like. I will leave them with what I can and I understand it will be painful but people die all the time and you do just have to get on with it after a while. When my grandparents died after long battles with cancer I was happy for them when everyone else was sad (they had communicated that they were ready) and of course I missed them and was upset that I couldnt see them again but why cant people just be glad their loved one no longer has to suffer? Metal pain is treated so differently from physical pain. Those hospital therapists need a new job.

I can see why you would resent what your mother is saying to you. It seems manipulative, albeit likely born of fear and desperation.

The thing is, parents don't get over it when their children die. They just don't.

However, that doesn't mean that you do not have the right to take your own life if you are suffering unbearably. That is the main point of this site, I think, everyone has that right to live and die as they choose.

...but its also selfish of everyone else to expect you to stay here against your will and also deny to care for you which is most cases. People who've been depressed for ages who received zero support/help from their family and friends commit suicide and then these people have the balls to act like they were victims of their death...

Sound point.

 

[FuneralCry]

Of course, we have the right to exit this world at a time of our own choosing, it is our life, our decision and nobody else has any say in it. Nobody should be in a position where they feel as though they are 'forced' to live. Living is not an obligation. I do not care if others feel pain after my death, in no way will it compare to the pain I have felt in this life.

 

[blueclover_.]

I have this fantasy in my head of everyone in my life being okay with my suicide and even supportive of it. I wish I could go surrounded by them and feeling love, not alone and desperate. Like, I want to die and that's not changing, so I just wish it could be done peacefully and with dignity like euthanasia. Most people who havent been suicidal for long periods of time dont understand this feeling. And I guess suicide ultimately is selfish but its also selfish of everyone else to expect you to stay here against your will and also deny to care for you which is most cases. People who've been depressed for ages who received zero support/help from their family and friends commit suicide and then these people have the balls to act like they were victims of their death, and not the person who was neglected..

When i see those fake ass sympathizers, i turn from being suicidal to homicidal. They only care about you when it's too late, when they KNOW it's too late and you can no longer actually use their help.