Why isn't partial working?

[Scribble Fan]

I'm 100% ready to CTB but for some reason I can't get partial suspension right. I was trying a few minutes ago and I leaned into the wire hard enough to leave me with a red mark across my neck but I didn't pass out? I felt kinda light headed though. Is that a good sign?

I'm just not sure what I'm doing wrong. Any ideas?

 

[letied]

Man, I'm in the same boat. If I can't find the sweet spot I will have to do full suspension. I'm going to have to exercise my ovaries.

 

[WornOutLife]

Same here but I'm not gonna try to practice partial anymore because I'm scared of permanent damage.
I guess it's just not my method.

 

[baxter0]

Use a wide leather belt, not something thin and definitely not a wire.

 

[letied]

Use a wide leather belt, not something thin and definitely not a wire.

Would a bathrobe or a necktie work?

 

[Rae82]

I'd like to know this too. And the best way to attach the other end to day a wardrobe hanging rail of that as your plan...hypothetically of course.

 

[Duckup]

Man, I'm in the same boat. If I can't find the sweet spot I will have to do full suspension. I'm going to have to exercise my ovaries.

wat

 

[rosie93]

I used a belt and it didn't work either. I lasted 30 seconds. I had a nice red mark on my neck too. I guess you have to put enough pressure and I just can't do it. Maybe hanging isn't for everyone.

 

[Eol21]

I was curious and tried the "choking game" hand placement as well as a rope. A few times i started to black out but got the eye popping head pressure which i dont think is supposed to happen when done correctly.

The write ups, photos, and video make it seem so simple.

 

[Hotsackage]

Its all a lottery. Just keep trying until u get it right

 

[destiny]

Use a wide leather belt, not something thin and definitely not a wire.

What would be the reasoning behind this? A thin rope (but not so thin that it will cut into the flesh) will produce higher pressure. As the aim is to constrict the carotid artery that seems to be favourable.

 

[Jblack]

Partial hanging takes some practice and prep. I tested it and even had some advice given to me on how to locate the "sweet spot". I finally gave up on partial. My method is still hanging but full suspension. It may be uncomfortable for a few seconds but I know it is a sure method.

 

[OnlyTheWind]

I should be getting a 6mm nylon rope in this week to see if it makes a difference. The 10mm I originally got is too bulky to constrict the carotids, even when I tightened it as much as I could. If you find the sweet spot, you want to focus the rope on that area, which could be different for everyone. Something you can try is to push into the carotids instead of squeezing them. That works better for me, and makes more sense for partial.

 

[SleepDealer]

When I tried partial, I tied my rope to a metal hook that goes over the door. It's the only anchor point I trusted to hold me. In fact, it could hold me for full suspension if I wanted to go that route. Unfortunately, I couldn't get enough pressure to compress the carotid arteries, only the jugular. That lead to the head exploding feeling and no luck with passing out. I don't know why.

In the successful partials I looked at, the rope is really high up on the throat, which I've been avoiding because it's super uncomfortable and the wiki suggested placing the rope lower. This gives me the feeling that the wiki is wrong... Anyone know more about that?

 

[stankboy421]

I'm a bit sus about the lower neck position, personally. Not least because it seems physically impossible to keep the ligature low without it slipping up as u dangled, unless you are in an extremely prone position. But I would want to be reasonably upright so there is more weight pulling straight down.

What position are your legs in when y'all are trying? I was thinking to like, sit back into It, so my heels are on the floor but my legs are straight out in front of me. But I was also thinking about putting the knot in front over my windpipe and hanging looking upwards. I saw a pic of a guy like that and it looked kindof comfortable.
And also like padding the rope/whatever on top of the arteries so there is extra pressure being pushed down.

Anybody tried any of these ?

 

[PapaSuicide]

The SI kick in and we get up, I tried once with 20mg rivotril, found me before I fell. I guess the SI is the biggest problem.

 

[RedEther]

Remember that each body is diffrent, and you need to do whats best your yours. My neck for ensample is skinny but I have a swelling esophagus. While the basics are the same how you go about it may be uniquely to you. Dont feel bad when one thing doesn't work, but also dont focus hard on one thing and end up harming yourself

 

[Ednospatient]

I tried partial three times, didn't lose consciousness and felt like my head was blowing up

 

[little helpers]

I'm 100% ready to CTB but for some reason I can't get partial suspension right. I was trying a few minutes ago and I leaned into the wire hard enough to leave me with a red mark across my neck but I didn't pass out? I felt kinda light headed though. Is that a good sign?

I'm just not sure what I'm doing wrong. Any ideas?

I've tried partial. not very helpful (I couldn't get it right). you can use a strong, not too stretchy, albeit thin, thread / wire for sure. as long as it don't snap under your body weight. I've read a case report, Black dude committed suicide with a super thin string wrapped several rounds on his neck. wasn't even partial. ligature strangulation where he pulled it with his finger. I been experimenting ligature strangulation ever since but can't do it right either.

I'm doing full suspension but I've read that putting the rope in front of the windpipe is the worst position for both methods. And padding could reduce the force on the arteries. I've also heard that partial doesn't work for everyone...

tested, can prove. too much struggling when windpipe's constricted even though I didn't want to.

 

[LingeringUnreal]

Rudimentary medical knowledge but windpipes are fuckin strong, you'd definitely want to be aiming for more constriction of arteries or simple airflow block, so it shouldn't be *too* tight feeling for a more comfortable partial. I agree with the people saying SI sometimes just overrides partial, especially in the cases of windpipe crushing feeling.

In BDSM, (I promise this is relevant) the way to choke someone out without permanent damage is NOT thumbs compressing windpipe, it's actually firm grip on either side of the neck (higher up is better) to block the carotid arteries until your partner passes out. People have managed to hang themselves with all sorts of materials, but the important thing is making sure there is firm pressure on the sides of the neck, not just the front and center where your windpipe is strongest. If you're not sure with where that is for you, try simply firming holding the sides of your own neck until you find a spot that makes you lightheaded to hold for several seconds, and that would be the spot you want to aim for.

I don't plan on partial but I had an almost-successful one a few years ago with a simple electrical cable high up on the neck - the issue wasn't placement for me, it was trying while my roommate was still home. Whoops...

 

[Someone123]

There are many posts here of partial not working just in the last couple of months. It work sometimes but it is clearly a difficult method to get to work based on the large number of posts about this here.

 

[OnlyTheWind]

Due to the high degree of control one has in the case of a partial hanging, it is easy to panic / back out. I'm more and more convinced that using alcohol or another substance + partial can give greater success.

 

[little helpers]

Rudimentary medical knowledge but windpipes are fuckin strong, you'd definitely want to be aiming for more constriction of arteries or simple airflow block, so it shouldn't be *too* tight feeling for a more comfortable partial. I agree with the people saying SI sometimes just overrides partial, especially in the cases of windpipe crushing feeling.

In BDSM, (I promise this is relevant) the way to choke someone out without permanent damage is NOT thumbs compressing windpipe, it's actually firm grip on either side of the neck (higher up is better) to block the carotid arteries until your partner passes out. People have managed to hang themselves with all sorts of materials, but the important thing is making sure there is firm pressure on the sides of the neck, not just the front and center where your windpipe is strongest. If you're not sure with where that is for you, try simply firming holding the sides of your own neck until you find a spot that makes you lightheaded to hold for several seconds, and that would be the spot you want to aim for.

I don't plan on partial but I had an almost-successful one a few years ago with a simple electrical cable high up on the neck - the issue wasn't placement for me, it was trying while my roommate was still home. Whoops...

sorry I'd come off as real ignorant in a second but… the only way I could get enough pressure on my cartoid (not just jugular) was through body weight. I promise I know we're not suicide experts. but do you happen to know how to get enough force going there? night-night method. is it the tourniquet not being long enough or is it me not pulling it tight enough (not that I don't want to, I just can't. too fucking weak for a human body…)? I apologize in advance cuz like, I know you didn't sign up for this.

 

[LingeringUnreal]

I actually don't know very much about the night-night method or how efficient it is and I've seen recent arguments about its effectiveness in its method thread, so I'm curious if it does actually do what it says it does. All I know is a standard ol' hanging (partial or otherwise) is a method used everywhere for all kinds of people, so I'm surprised at how ineffective it seems from the posts I've seen here? Maybe people have to try a few times to get it right but that still sucks...

All I really know myself as an animal anatomy knower is that direct windpipe pressure tends to suck and make your SI kick in really fast because it also hurts a lot. It's like a solid chunk of hard cartilage (?) so makes sense your body would fight the whole way. I'm definitely assuming a lot based on my own experience and the anatomy I do know, but it's hard to say with methods cuz it's not like you see articles about people using "night night", they just all fall under "hanging". >_<