Why is male virginity and loneliness taboo in society?

[lonerclown666]

Nobody will live loved in this world and i am sure many man die for that i know if i live i will continue to be unloved for the rest of my life i will CTB for that and for other reasons i see life as a pointless

 

[Circles]

Cause society doesn't care about men. Men are seen as expendable. Why do you think most suicides are by men?

 

[Nightmare]

No one likes being around a man that is emasculated(ex: needy, goalless)
That's just how evolution works and its perfect the way its, whats not perfect is society trying to emasculate every man that exist into thinking that they should be complaining rather than facing hell and standing victorious in order to get what they think that they deserve
Love/Desire are not free of charge and the fact that you don't realize this is why you complain about it.

 

[Harriet]

Cause society doesn't care about men. Men are seen as expendable. Why do you think most suicides are by men?

I care about men. It's broken my heart that my friend who was a guy and a member on here isn't here any more. I wish I could have made him happy enough to stay in this world

 

[Superdeterminist]

That's really depressing. 100% a reason for my ctb as well. I feel like I'm headed in his direction, I need to die before I end up like him or worse.

 

[Ihadagoodlife]

Cause society doesn't care about men. Men are seen as expendable. Why do you think most suicides are by men?

*doesn't care about ugly men

 

[_Minsk]

i think it has to do with that many men don't want to be associated with being unable to succeed in life, the ideal picture of a men in societies eyes is one that is successful, has career, wife, reproduces, etc..
after all it really doesn't matter if virgin or not, its up to the person to be okay with it or not, i would rather have spend more time for my job than any sexual activities.. if you're successful, you will attract women, im pretty sure about that.

 

[LonelyBrazilian]

I think it's biological (for example, a man can get pregnant 100 different women, but it's very difficult for a woman to get pregnant 100 times). That's why women are biologically protected.
In the opinion of women (at least most), a man with no sexual experience is not worth it, they have no patience with virgin men.
Another factor is that if you are a virgin society will throw all the shame and blame on you.

i think it has to do with that many men don't want to be associated with being unable to succeed in life, the ideal picture of a men in societies eyes is one that is successful, has career, wife, reproduces, etc..
after all it really doesn't matter if virgin or not, its up to the person to be okay with it or not, i would rather have spend more time for my job than any sexual activities.. if you're successful, you will attract women, im pretty sure about that.

I understand you, but this sounds like a catch 22 situation. Because, in fact, most guys who are professionally successful were sexually successful in their teens. It's one of the reasons they're motivated and have goals, because they don't have to worry about women anymore, they've already had time to come, unlike a virgin man

 

[CatLove56]

No one likes being around a man that is emasculated(ex: needy, goalless)
That's just how evolution works and its perfect the way its, whats not perfect is society trying to emasculate every man that exist into thinking that they should be complaining rather than facing hell and standing victorious in order to get what they think that they deserve
Love/Desire are not free of charge and the fact that you don't realize this is why you complain about it.

Spoken like a normie. How is this helpful?

 

[PeacefulTonic]

Spoken like a normie. How is this helpful?

It's the cold hard truth. If you want love you gotta work for it. You have to be desirable and have an edge over other men. Every guy has a dick, you gotta have more to offer. Don't hate the player, hate the game

 

[Meretlein]

Just world fallacy for one. If someone is suffering and their suffering cannot be remedied or mitigated, people often rationalize the situation by saying that the sufferer deserves their suffering or that the suffering is not "that bad".

 

[RainAndSadness]

No one likes being around a man that is emasculated(ex: needy, goalless)

Wait what, sounds like the perfect boyfriend. Where do I find these men?

 

[Futile]

Because more often than not it stems from systemic discrimination against ugly & autistic men, and society doesn't want to admit that it exists

 

[Chinaski]

I find this whole discussion absurd, ngl. Every time one of these threads pops up it follows a theme of discrimination against the male, as if the world is conspiring against unprepossessing menfolk who lack personal charm, and l really struggle with it.

For starters, the society we live in is inherently patriarchal and always has been. The male dominates throughout. The mating ritual of today is the way it's been for all time - the men compete, the women choose. This is not a societal conspiracy, but how we're programmed. Historically, both genders have chosen partners for entirely practical purposes - the man would choose a good "homemaker" to rear offspring, the woman would choose a man capable of providing. This is the societal influence on the mating ritual. As women are becoming increasingly capable of providing for themselves, they have less need to "settle" for a partner for these practical reasons and can now select on a purely aesthetic basis, something which the male has been entitled to do for centuries. Men clearly do not like being scorned or passed over for these essentially superficial reasons and whilst l understand the feelings of loneliness and despair that comes with being assessed on such a base level it is something which is new to the male, which women have been subject to for centuries. Men are having to adjust their expectations re finding a mate, they can no longer marry a woman who "needs" them and keep them in the style of a domestic servant, they will have to recognise that they no longer have the male entitlement society used to provide them with. This isn't misandry on a grand global scale, it's just progress, and the struggle to find a companion some males are experiencing would be better aided by a readjusting of their sights and a healthier outlook about themselves than it would be by churning out turgid misogynistic conspiracy theories on the Internet imo.

 

[Account unknown]

Well I'm not just saying this to try and make you all feel better but sex is overrated anyway. I've found it's something I enjoy more the thought of and the chase more than actually doing… when it happens I could usually take it or leave it.

I only have sex basically just to get new material for the wank bank these days lol I don't enjoy myself in the moment because I'm always hyper focused on other peoples wants and needs in general and when I have sex I'm more concerned about making sure they enjoy it rather than myself. It's not everything it's cracked up to be.

Having no soulmate or whatever to share your life with is soul crushing though for sure.

 

[FromGermany]

Asexuality and sex by mentally disabled people are also still a taboo.

Fortunately, most kind of fetish like foots or lingerie or bondage whatsoever are no longer associated with pervert hijackers or serial killers by the older part of the society as this was the case 50 years ago.

 

[Darkover]

sex is central to understanding your humanness as having hopes and dreams a life denied better pay a prostitute before it's too late soon to be gone forever

 

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wouldn't say loneliness is tbh. think it's widely accepted that men don't really have close friends like women do. at best you have mates you small talk with but none that are actually emotionally invested in you.

 

[Chinaski]

sex is central to understanding your humanness as having hopes and dreams a life denied better pay a prostitute before it's too late soon to be gone forever

Paying someone to act as a clinical provider of sexual relief is not "central to understanding humanness" unless you're of a particular mindset that tells you sex is something you receive from a subordinate individual rather than something you share.

 

[Darkover]

Paying someone to act as a clinical provider of sexual relief is not "central to understanding humanness" unless you're of a particular mindset that tells you sex is something you receive from a subordinate individual rather than something you share.

paying for sex with someone who knows little, and cares less, about you is generally not a very self-affirming experience, money can't substitute for real love and affection

 

[NormaJeane]

Social isolation depends on overpopulation. If there only were two people, one man and one woman on this planet, you would not be alone.

 

[Nightmare]

Spoken like a normie. How is this helpful?

"Helpful" can be many different things except the one you seek can be found in churches and suicide prevention groups, Not in evolutionary psychology books and obviously not in reality.

Wait what, sounds like the perfect boyfriend. Where do I find these men?

They are like flies around every female and you don't want them.

I find this whole discussion absurd, ngl. Every time one of these threads pops up it follows a theme of discrimination against the male, as if the world is conspiring against unprepossessing menfolk who lack personal charm, and l really struggle with it.

For starters, the society we live in is inherently patriarchal and always has been. The male dominates throughout. The mating ritual of today is the way it's been for all time - the men compete, the women choose. This is not a societal conspiracy, but how we're programmed. Historically, both genders have chosen partners for entirely practical purposes - the man would choose a good "homemaker" to rear offspring, the woman would choose a man capable of providing. This is the societal influence on the mating ritual. As women are becoming increasingly capable of providing for themselves, they have less need to "settle" for a partner for these practical reasons and can now select on a purely aesthetic basis, something which the male has been entitled to do for centuries. Men clearly do not like being scorned or passed over for these essentially superficial reasons and whilst l understand the feelings of loneliness and despair that comes with being assessed on such a base level it is something which is new to the male, which women have been subject to for centuries. Men are having to adjust their expectations re finding a mate, they can no longer marry a woman who "needs" them and keep them in the style of a domestic servant, they will have to recognise that they no longer have the male entitlement society used to provide them with. This isn't misandry on a grand global scale, it's just progress, and the struggle to find a companion some males are experiencing would be better aided by a readjusting of their sights and a healthier outlook about themselves than it would be by churning out turgid misogynistic conspiracy theories on the Internet imo.

Well said.

 

[Dawncie]

I will definitely die a virgin, it's logically impossible for me to get a girl

 

[LDARbeforeROPE]

Nobody will live loved in this world and i am sure many man die for that i know if i live i will continue to be unloved for the rest of my life i will CTB for that and for other reasons i see life as a pointless

You get what you get or what you can take as a man, this is unfortunately what we get. We are not seen as valuable by the elites as women are more profitable

I will definitely die a virgin, it's logically impossible for me to get a girl

same

 

[OnlyTheWind]

No one likes being around a man that is emasculated(ex: needy, goalless)

I can't into real-life goals, but I guess it's not enough to just be good to another person these days. My death will in part be a "fuck you" to society for being so brutal and evil, because that's exactly what it is. This is not a matter of effort, it's a matter of luck.

 

[Nightmare]

I can't into real-life goals, but I guess it's not enough to just be good to another person these days. My death will in part be a "fuck you" to society for being so brutal and evil, because that's exactly what it is. This is not a matter of effort, it's a matter of luck.

You think you can't, It's mostly but not limited to a matter of irresponsible parenting on which you were used up for the pleasure of people surrounding you and thus you grew up on the excpectation that everyone should ne like this, Big mistake many families do is working their children out to be theirs forever while never admitting into doing so when confronted instead of infesting them with as many truths as possible(assuming they made an effort to not be delusional/predictable pawns) during their childhood so they dont grow up depressed because what they see is just wrong..
The process of finding a purpose can only be processed by someone in your flesh and memories, become an elite yourself and stop at nothing until you become it as a punishment to society that by the way will do everything to stop you.

 

[Futile]

I find this whole discussion absurd, ngl. Every time one of these threads pops up it follows a theme of discrimination against the male, as if the world is conspiring against unprepossessing menfolk who lack personal charm, and l really struggle with it.

For starters, the society we live in is inherently patriarchal and always has been. The male dominates throughout. The mating ritual of today is the way it's been for all time - the men compete, the women choose. This is not a societal conspiracy, but how we're programmed. Historically, both genders have chosen partners for entirely practical purposes - the man would choose a good "homemaker" to rear offspring, the woman would choose a man capable of providing. This is the societal influence on the mating ritual. As women are becoming increasingly capable of providing for themselves, they have less need to "settle" for a partner for these practical reasons and can now select on a purely aesthetic basis, something which the male has been entitled to do for centuries. Men clearly do not like being scorned or passed over for these essentially superficial reasons and whilst l understand the feelings of loneliness and despair that comes with being assessed on such a base level it is something which is new to the male, which women have been subject to for centuries. Men are having to adjust their expectations re finding a mate, they can no longer marry a woman who "needs" them and keep them in the style of a domestic servant, they will have to recognise that they no longer have the male entitlement society used to provide them with. This isn't misandry on a grand global scale, it's just progress, and the struggle to find a companion some males are experiencing would be better aided by a readjusting of their sights and a healthier outlook about themselves than it would be by churning out turgid misogynistic conspiracy theories on the Internet imo.

Great way to avoid the question

It's about ugly males and ugly males only ("personal charm" or whatever other bullshit has nothing to do with it). Everything you said only applies to good looking or at least average men, ugly men have always been left to rot alone, seen as nothing more than slaves unworthy of basic human rights only because they were born with the wrong genes, no matter the place, the time or the setting. The thing you call patriarchy is merely an invention to justify what is by all means a genocide, and the fact that you think that asking to be treated like every other person is somehow misoginy tells a lot about you

 

[Chinaski]

Personal charm *does* have a lot to do with it. I know this shatters the notion that the dominant matriarchy are out to get you but my main experience of online inceldom is of sad little angry blokes with zero sense of humour, a low opinion of women generally and a difficulty with expressing independent thought and this is absolutely unattractive by definition. When your personality stinks the fucking place out it really doesn't matter if you're ugly or beautiful, people will tend to avoid.

 

[layne2001]

It isn't. Lmfao

 

[Futile]

Personal charm *does* have a lot to do with it. I know this shatters the notion that the dominant matriarchy are out to get you but my main experience of online inceldom is of sad little angry blokes with zero sense of humour, a low opinion of women generally and a difficulty with expressing independent thought and this is absolutely unattractive by definition. When your personality stinks the fucking place out it really doesn't matter if you're ugly or beautiful, people will tend to avoid.

You are completely delusional. Just more and more bullshit to justify your hate.

What a pityful existence