Venting Why does society mandate survival at all costs?

[Matchaaa]

I have always believed that society demands people endure the loss of their sense of self, endure prolonged suffering, and survive in a state of numbness—all simply to meet society's expectations of what it means to "being alive," rather than out of genuine concern for the individual's feelings.

That is why I believe the ability to die painlessly should be a human right for everyone, not a privilege. Most importantly, people should have the right to choose the trajectory of one's own life. I'm increasingly convinced that the very act of biological reproduction is an extremely cruel form of hell.

Looking back at history, many motivations for having children stem from personal needs and interests, such as seeking a sense of purpose, needing a child as a laborer, or relying on a child for one's own retirement security… Yet after birth, children often face immense life pressures and psychological burdens. When some express suicidal thoughts, they are met with incomprehension or even accusations that suicide is selfish.

No one chooses the circumstances of their birth, yet society deliberately restricts the autonomy to choose one's end through euthanasia. I feel that most opponents of euthanasia have never experienced such extreme suffering, which is why they interfere with others' right to choose—unaware that not everyone can live a happy life. I've noticed that most people with suicidal thoughts don't interfere with others' life-and-death decisions, yet those who oppose euthanasia always presume to interfere with others' right to choose. If the only choice is between a life of suffering and a painful death, and society goes out of its way to emphasize just how agonizing certain methods of suicide are, why not legalize euthanasia? Is it because society needs to keep those painful methods of suicide around to deter people from choosing them?

When I think about the 8 billion people in this world, and how many face agonizing, cruel circumstances, I feel utterly hopeless.The very act of giving birth is essentially gambling with a new life,once social unrest or war breaks out, many new lives suffer needlessly. Therefore, not being born means there is certainly no suffering.

Sorry if this is a bit Scattered. Thank you taking the time to read this.

 

[Topaz111]

Thi is not scattered at all, it's very well written!
I agree with you 100%, you put it into words very well.
Most pro-lifers are either against the choice to die because it's against their religion or they never suffered badly enough to comprehend a scenario where death is the preferable option. On a systemic level we will never have euthanasia available for everyone since it is not profitable to have the labourers dying instead of working their lives of course. Even people on disability still benefit the pharmaceutical companies so they gotta keep them alive too.

 

[LonelyPrince]

It's all for survival.
Humans are wired with survival instincts to keep on living and reproduce. That's why we love: it's a way to get us to reproduce and continue the human race.
Euthanasia is made illegal due to how taboo suicide always has been in society:
"What do you mean you want to die?! Life is a gift!".
People fall into these delusions as a way to cope. Life isn't truly a gift but they tend to believe it to give their life some sense, some meaning, while fearing death. Humans fear the unknown and since it is unknown what comes after death we fear it.
Plus it would be inconvienent for the people in power if half of the population had the easy way out.

 

[Matchaaa]

Thi is not scattered at all, it's very well written!
I agree with you 100%, you put it into words very well.
Most pro-lifers are either against the choice to die because it's against their religion or they never suffered badly enough to comprehend a scenario where death is the preferable option. On a systemic level we will never have euthanasia available for everyone since it is not profitable to have the labourers dying instead of working their lives of course. Even people on disability still benefit the pharmaceutical companies so they gotta keep them alive too.

Thank you! I agree with you completely. Sometimes I've noticed that most people who have suicidal thoughts don't interfere with others' beliefs, but some religious people are always trying to force their views on others.That's why they oppose euthanasia.

It's all for survival.
Humans are wired with survival instincts to keep on living and reproduce. That's why we love: it's a way to get us to reproduce and continue the human race.
Euthanasia is made illegal due to how taboo suicide always has been in society:
"What do you mean you want to die?! Life is a gift!".
People fall into these delusions as a way to cope. Life isn't truly a gift but they tend to believe it to give their life some sense, some meaning, while fearing death. Humans fear the unknown and since it is unknown what comes after death we fear it.
Plus it would be inconvienent for the people in power if half of the population had the easy way out.

That's a great point, you really rounded that out perfectly.

 

[Pluto]

 

[Matchaaa]

Pluto, I really love the memes you make! They always make me laugh whenever I see them

 

[Uncounted1846]

It would truly help those religious people see the other side of the coin if they spent time in a psych ward. Or an orphanage. or man a national hotline for human trafficking victims & SA survivors.

Maybe then they would see euthanasia isn't always an evil thing. Some of us realized, at an early age even, that this life sucks and, at least for me, cannot adapt to modern society. It's like my brain had made socializing impossible. Depression is my whole world. Suicide is my saving grace.

 

[WrathfulGloom32]

It would truly help those religious people see the other side of the coin if they spent time in a psych ward. Or an orphanage. or man a national hotline for human trafficking victims & SA survivors.

Maybe then they would see euthanasia isn't always an evil thing. Some of us realized, at an early age even, that this life sucks and, at least for me, cannot adapt to modern society. It's like my brain had made socializing impossible. Depression is my whole world. Suicide is my saving grace.

Yes 1000 times.

 

[BradGuy123]

Anti-choice people take that position as a form of virtual signaling and as a way of feeling good about themselves

 

[KuriGohan&Kamehameha]

The idea that some people would willingly choose death over longevity is a deeply uncomfortable thought for most people. Whether it's due to religion that forbids the idea entirely and purports sanctity of life at all costs, people being unable to comprehend that anyone could end up in a state where existing feels like non-stop suffering. It's like you say, if someone hasn't experienced it firsthand, it's extremely hard for them to grasp. The idea is terrifying. Hell, when I first became suicidal as a child, the idea was terrifying to me too, before I realised this pain was here to stay.

I also don't understand why most people feel justified to meddle in the business of strangers though and exert control over their bodily autonomy, just to protect their own beliefs. It is one thing to be concerned about close friends or family members, and trying to dissuade them, because in that case there are personal stakes. But I have never understood the feel-good, motivational sentiments online where netizens say that euthanasia should be banned because there's always hope, even if they have absolutely no awareness or understanding of a stranger's condition. At the end of the day, only we know how we feel and what we are experiencing, other people can't possibly know what someone's day to day existence feels like.

I also wish I had never been born. You see a lot of arguments from pro-life people (in the anti-abortion sense, not the anti-euthanasia camp) say that abortion is morally wrong because every potential being deserves a chance at life. I was unwanted by my parents, and my mother immediately handed me over to other relatives when I was an infant. In such a situation, I don't know how anyone can say that I ever had a shot at life, because I was screwed from the beginning, born to a physically and mentally sick mother who wanted nothing to do with me. But yeah, abortion would have surely been the crueler choice, no?

 

[Matchaaa]

The idea that some people would willingly choose death over longevity is a deeply uncomfortable thought for most people. Whether it's due to religion that forbids the idea entirely and purports sanctity of life at all costs, people being unable to comprehend that anyone could end up in a state where existing feels like non-stop suffering. It's like you say, if someone hasn't experienced it firsthand, it's extremely hard for them to grasp. The idea is terrifying. Hell, when I first became suicidal as a child, the idea was terrifying to me too, before I realised this pain was here to stay.

I also don't understand why most people feel justified to meddle in the business of strangers though and exert control over their bodily autonomy, just to protect their own beliefs. It is one thing to be concerned about close friends or family members, and trying to dissuade them, because in that case there are personal stakes. But I have never understood the feel-good, motivational sentiments online where netizens say that euthanasia should be banned because there's always hope, even if they have absolutely no awareness or understanding of a stranger's condition. At the end of the day, only we know how we feel and what we are experiencing, other people can't possibly know what someone's day to day existence feels like.

I also wish I had never been born. You see a lot of arguments from pro-life people (in the anti-abortion sense, not the anti-euthanasia camp) say that abortion is morally wrong because every potential being deserves a chance at life. I was unwanted by my parents, and my mother immediately handed me over to other relatives when I was an infant. In such a situation, I don't know how anyone can say that I ever had a shot at life, because I was screwed from the beginning, born to a physically and mentally sick mother who wanted nothing to do with me. But yeah, abortion would have surely been the crueler choice, no?

I'm truly sorry to hear about what you've been through. For a long time now, I've felt that extreme anti-abortionists only look down on others from on high, completely blind to the suffering of those who have already been born.

 

[iset]

Yes, I completely agree with you! After all, we have a choice in almost every aspect of life: so why, of all things, should we not have a choice when it comes to our own end?