What's the root problem?

[Unworthyhuman]

Curious to know what your root problem is. If someone came up to me today and said, I can't cure your mental health, but what can I do to pave the path for you?

My answer:

#1-a career I enjoy with a livable wage
#2 -all debt forgiven
#3-a roof over my head I could afford
#4-food I could afford
#5-move to a place where I know no one
#6-health insurance I could afford

That's it...funny how simple it could be to change the direction of someone's life.

 

[thousandislandstare]

Most of these are the same for me. While money won't necessarily be the silver bullet for severe medical conditions or bring people back to life or undo the past, I think in many cases of suicidality, it just comes down to financial constraints. We live in a society where you can't even stop to catch your breath, where you're trapped in abusive situations, where one unlucky day can pretty much de-person you for good. Like all I wanted to do was to be able to have a job that is tolerable, pays for basic needs, and gives me the time to live a life. But you seldom get any of that. You're always on the treadmill, it's always getting faster, and god help you if you stumble even a little.

 

[Unworthyhuman]

Most of these are the same for me. While money won't necessarily be the silver bullet for severe medical conditions or bring people back to life or undo the past, I think in many cases of suicidality, it just comes down to financial constraints. We live in a society where you can't even stop to catch your breath, where you're trapped in abusive situations, where one unlucky day can pretty much de-person you for good. Like all I wanted to do was to be able to have a job that is tolerable, pays for basic needs, and gives me the time to live a life. But you seldom get any of that. You're always on the treadmill, it's always getting faster, and god help you if you stumble even a little.

awh...you get it, thank you!

 

[paranoias64]

god yes. i want all those things so badly. i just don't have the energy to fight for em and would rather ctb. a job i like that pays well would allow me to get the necessary surgeries i need for my transition and would significantly make me want to rope less. i wish we lived in a world where ppl cared. but we dont. ppl say they do. but the fact that society is structured in this vicious and cruel way says otherwise

 

[Front Back]

A good job with reasonable pay and work that could get me a land and house in like 3-4 years. Or better government.

 

[dust-in-the-wind]

I have all those things you listed and I still want to die. Curing my mental health is the only thing that will save me. When you have severe treatment resistant depression for no reason, it is an unexplainable hell I wish on no one.

 

[bl33ding_heart]

The root of my problems and my main reason for wanting to ctb is my borderline personality disorder. It had made my life a living hell, and has taken so much from me. I genuinely don't see myself living for much longer. And I seriously don't understand how others with this disorder manage at all.

 

[ThunderBringer]

I honestly believe I'm just messed up from birth. I had a ton of money at one point and it didn't help. I have an amazing girlfriend and friends yet I still feel awful. The best thing for me is to fix my brain or just die

 

[FuneralCry]

The true problem is existence itself, what the problem is how humans continue to impose this existence and just cause all this pain, suffering and cruelty as a result with no limit as to how much one can be tortured.

I'll just always see it as the most terrible, dreadful mistake to suffer in this existence, I'll just always see it as an abomination to exist, no matter what I'll just always prefer the peace of non-existence over the terrible suffering of this torturous existence and I'll just always find it torture to exist. No matter what I'll always find it so deeply undesirable to exist in every way and I'd just never wish to be conscious of anything at all, all I want is to be permanently unconscious free from all suffering, it's so painful and horrible to me how the torture of existing can continue for decades longer just for one to face the terrible extreme agony of old age, existence truly is the problem and it's one only non-existence can solve for me, no matter what this existence should never be imposed.

 

[Forveleth]

My root "problem" is I genuinely do not want to live anymore. Not sure what someone could do to fix that though.

 

[Forever Sleep]

Minus the health insurance, I attained the other things on your list- also believing they would be enough. But ultimately, they aren't (for me.) I'm in the weirder position of not really wanting anything. I just want to rest and for things to become no worse. I suppose money would enable that but then- I suspect I'd feel bored pretty quickly.

I do truly think that life itself is the root problem for me. Seeing as living comes with so many needs. Money takes care of a bunch of them I suppose but then- it can't exactly give you a sense of purpose. It can't cure all health problems too and- as I age, they are likely to increase.

I suppose that's how I know in myself that suicide is my prefered option though. Because- even the thought of my best life doesn't appeal now. It just makes me feel tired.

 

[starboy2k]

just kill me

 

[Unworthyhuman]

The true problem is existence itself, what the problem is how humans continue to impose this existence and just cause all this pain, suffering and cruelty as a result with no limit as to how much one can be tortured.

I'll just always see it as the most terrible, dreadful mistake to suffer in this existence, I'll just always see it as an abomination to exist, no matter what I'll just always prefer the peace of non-existence over the terrible suffering of this torturous existence and I'll just always find it torture to exist. No matter what I'll always find it so deeply undesirable to exist in every way and I'd just never wish to be conscious of anything at all, all I want is to be permanently unconscious free from all suffering, it's so painful and horrible to me how the torture of existing can continue for decades longer just for one to face the terrible extreme agony of old age, existence truly is the problem and it's one only non-existence can solve for me, no matter what this existence should never be imposed.

a prison for sure. existence is indeed torture. A roller coaster ride I want off.

 

[PanaxMan]

Curious to know what your root problem is. If someone came up to me today and said, I can't cure your mental health, but what can I do to pave the path for you?

My answer:

#1-a career I enjoy with a livable wage
#2 -all debt forgiven
#3-a roof over my head I could afford
#4-food I could afford
#5-move to a place where I know no one
#6-health insurance I could afford

That's it...funny how simple it could be to change the direction of someone's life.

Getting my documents so that I can get the experience of Getting a job with a good reputation and decent money (I'll make my big money someone else it's fine) all the rest is easier after I just have to put the work in. But I can't even get onto that first step

 

[Unworthyhuman]

Getting my documents so that I can get the experience of Getting a job with a good reputation and decent money (I'll make my big money someone else it's fine) all the rest is easier after I just have to put the work in. But I can't even get onto that first step

are you American?

 

[PanaxMan]

are you American?

Correct and legitimately healthy and stuff and can speak fine. Parents blackmailed with my documents so I can't get a job :(

 

[Unworthyhuman]

Correct and legitimately healthy and stuff and can speak fine. Parents blackmailed with my documents so I can't get a job :(

If you are over 18 and in America getting your documents isn't a problem, might take a little time, but that's the easiest of all the problems.

 

[PanaxMan]

If you are over 18 and in America getting your documents isn't a problem, might take a little time, but that's the easiest of all the problems.

Of course I am. The problem is I'm not in my current home state right now. Finding a job isn't easy either. A little time (it's been 6 months for homeless helters to open up no response) matters to someone who's homeless. I've legitimately given up on shelters and I don't trust churches. I'm camping in a upper class community which has decent amenities but it is actually the hardest since I'm dead broke after buying my survival equipment

Of course I am. The problem is I'm not in my current home state right now. Finding a job isn't easy easier. A little time (it's been 6 months for homeless helters to open up no response) matters to someone who's homeless. I've legitimately given up on shelters and I don't trust churches. I'm camping in a upper class community which has decent amenities but it is actually the hardest since I'm dead broke after buying my survival equipment

I don't have access to my birth certificate ( a real copy ) nor a SSN (no idea of the numbers and the actual card) and I don't have any friends to cling onto

 

[Unworthyhuman]

You don't have to be in your home state and I pretty much take any resistance as an excuse. I've been homeless and without documents several times and not in my home state. You are standing in your own way if it's your documents you need. You can get arrested for petty theft and boom, suddenly you'll get all your documents.

 

[PanaxMan]

You don't have to be in your home state and I pretty much take any resistance as an excuse. I've been homeless and without documents several times and not in my home state. You are standing in your own way if it's your documents you need. You can get arrested for petty theft and boom, suddenly you'll get all your documents.

Explain more I don't want to commit a crime and I have been contacting shelters and stuff and I've been getting 0 responses back so it isn't like I'm not trying
And petty theft shows up on records for a job application so I don't think that'll help at all
I'm also losing a lot of stamina from doing water fasting since I'm broke as well so yeah been sleeping alot

 

[Unworthyhuman]

Depends on what city and state you are in currently.

 

[PanaxMan]

Depends on what city and state you are in currently.

I can realistically walk to it (it'll be a 12 hours plus) but even then I just would have 0 idea as I graduated in another state. I'm in the tri state area and close to nyc. I was born in NY so that's why I'm mentioning nyc
The state I'm currently in does suck a lot given their response to not pickup you or even a call back for the homeless so I wouldn't wanna stay here besides the amenities like free power and free water

 

[3spiral]

man idk I just want to feel like a real human

I want to not be embarassed of existing, I want to be able to live my life without feeling scared or overwhelmed by everything

 

[Unworthyhuman]

it doesn't matter where you graduated from, you get your birth certificate from the state to which you born. go to your social security office and apply for a social security card with hardship, it's free. depending on where you are born, Google where to get birth certificate if born in "xxxx" and they tell you how to apply with hardship. You have to be willing to help yourself and contact the right people. it's all free. and if you don't want to do it, have no fear, eventually you'll get arrested whether you want to commit a crime or not. it's fucking stupid that is the only thing blocking you.

 

[PanaxMan]

it doesn't matter where you graduated from, you get your birth certificate from the state to which you born. go to your social security office and apply for a social security card with hardship, it's free. depending on where you are born, Google where to get birth certificate if born in "xxxx" and they tell you how to apply with hardship. You have to be willing to help yourself and contact the right people. it's all free. and if you don't want to do it, have no fear, eventually you'll get arrested whether you want to commit a crime or not. it's fucking stupid that is the only thing blocking you.

With hardship??? Don't you need certain documents? How do you get those documents. It's the infinite loop of the documents situation. Don't you need your birth certificate (which you have to pay for) to get -> which you need a mailing address a charity (0 response) a shelter (0 response) and a church (I don't trust) all I have is my diploma which was the only thing I was able to get but it doesn't help since I don't have a address. I don't have a id as my parents neglected to do that because I was at home before they started the blackmail. I can't prove myself unless I get arrested I guess and give their phone number as a emergency contact but I won't be. It's the infinite loop of documents. And I don't even have the documents to begin with

it doesn't matter where you graduated from, you get your birth certificate from the state to which you born. go to your social security office and apply for a social security card with hardship, it's free. depending on where you are born, Google where to get birth certificate if born in "xxxx" and they tell you how to apply with hardship. You have to be willing to help yourself and contact the right people. it's all free. and if you don't want to do it, have no fear, eventually you'll get arrested whether you want to commit a crime or not. it's fucking stupid that is the only thing blocking you.

I am taking the advice from here and trying to see if there is a bright light but if you have anymore advice I would like some

 

[Unworthyhuman]

my advice is to stop your sob story about whatever this thing is with your parents. stop your excuses and stories with shelters and churches. lose your pride, you are an adult. All it takes is. "I'm homeless, I have no documents, I want to work, but need to prove my identity, will you help?" Then follow the rules and the process they set and you will have your documents within 30 days.

 

[PanaxMan]

my advice is to stop your sob story about whatever this thing is with your parents. stop your excuses and stories with shelters and churches. lose your pride, you are an adult. All it takes is. "I'm homeless, I have no documents, I want to work, but need to prove my identity, will you help?" Then follow the rules and the process they set and you will have your documents within 30 days.

I've already lost my pride thank you a long time ago. But none of it makes any sense with the documents loop. To get a SSN you need a legitimate copy of a birth certificate which requires money (which I don't have). I could get access to a copy (not the real thing) of my birth certificate. I'm not a fan of the police here as I've had unfortunately some conflict with them. But the main problem is the lack of a response from a shelter. Not like being in a shelter is any fun whatsoever. Do you have a certain personal example from your experience or is this just internet slop. Because from all the research shows the infinite loop of the documents situation especially if you have 0 documents on you

my advice is to stop your sob story about whatever this thing is with your parents. stop your excuses and stories with shelters and churches. lose your pride, you are an adult. All it takes is. "I'm homeless, I have no documents, I want to work, but need to prove my identity, will you help?" Then follow the rules and the process they set and you will have your documents within 30 days.

I guess I'll be attempting within a couple of days and trying to do more research

 

[User8]

I've already lost my pride thank you a long time ago. But none of it makes any sense with the documents loop. To get a SSN you need a legitimate copy of a birth certificate which requires money (which I don't have). I could get access to a copy (not the real thing) of my birth certificate. I'm not a fan of the police here as I've had unfortunately some conflict with them. But the main problem is the lack of a response from a shelter. Not like being in a shelter is any fun whatsoever. Do you have a certain personal example from your experience or is this just internet slop. Because from all the research shows the infinite loop of the documents situation especially if you have 0 documents on you

I guess I'll be attempting within a couple of days and trying to do more research

You got this man.
Using chatgpt might come very handy as it can provide detailed and specific information about your area and all everything else. Good luck with that mate.

 

[They call me Death.]

Honestly I just don't feel like I belong in this world. It's an ugly world for sure but more importantly than that; it's a world in which I just don't fit in.. It's too quick, too much pain, too much of everything tbh. I used to think it was because of (childhood) trauma, but I've come to the realisation that it's me. I'm the problem.

 

[Unworthyhuman]

I've already lost my pride thank you a long time ago. But none of it makes any sense with the documents loop. To get a SSN you need a legitimate copy of a birth certificate which requires money (which I don't have). I could get access to a copy (not the real thing) of my birth certificate. I'm not a fan of the police here as I've had unfortunately some conflict with them. But the main problem is the lack of a response from a shelter. Not like being in a shelter is any fun whatsoever. Do you have a certain personal example from your experience or is this just internet slop. Because from all the research shows the infinite loop of the documents situation especially if you have 0 documents on you

I guess I'll be attempting within a couple of days and trying to do more research

you are absolutely wrong in your statement. you are full of excuses. you are the main problem. you clearly have not gotten rid of your pride. You do not need money, you need to run out of excuses. every program has a hardship program to apply for. you do not need a birth certificate to get a social security card. what you do need is to actually go to the office and stop expecting everyone to do things for you. it ain't hard buddy. a simple Google search will tell you what to do.

Honestly I just don't feel like I belong in this world. It's an ugly world for sure but more importantly than that; it's a world in which I just don't fit in.. It's too quick, too much pain, too much of everything tbh. I used to think it was because of (childhood) trauma, but I've come to the realisation that it's me. I'm the problem.

I relate! I am the problem too! yeaaaa