What are your thoughts on the Brexit situation?

[StateOfMind]

Seems like a mess right now.
But who knows, maybe it will be in the UK's interest in the long run?
I don't know.
Do you have opinions on this subject?

 

[antigone_iris]

No offense, I think Brexit was a reaaaally bad idea.

 

[netrezven]

I'm sceptical about EU's not so long term existence.
EU's anti money laundering sh*t and other stupid directives like gdrp- they made that happen. But no one will ever tell. I play on all sides and for now I care about free trading zone, but it's going to be hard.

 

[botanormal]

I think it was a bad idea, and has been kind of a mess so far. Still hoping it turns out okay though.

 

[StateOfMind]

Cummings left office before end of the transition period lol
Apparently he is the "mastermind" of Brexit..

 

[VisionsOfHell]

Not much will change from it. They just let it happen to give people the illusion that theyre in control. What does it matter wether they are ruled by career politians and elite interest groups in brussels or in london?
Cheers

 

[Deleted member 1465]

Same as the US situation that saw trump elected.
A knee jerk reaction to a dis-empowered electorate who no longer trusted the system, so voted for a wild card under a series of comprehensive misunderstandings and over-simplifications propagated by irresponsible social media and propaganda.

 

[Deleted member 19276]

Sadly I would go as neutral, far from the UK.
I don't entirely understand it, to be honest.

 

[Futile]

Don't worry mate we haf the colonial empire









Right?

 

[eclipsee99]

i forgot about brexit after covid started if i'm honest lmao

 

[Ironweed]

I think the UK is better off out of the suffocating bureaucracy that is the EU, but as I'm American I'm not sure it is really my place to comment. Seems to me the country that has the best deal is Norway, they're not in the EU so Brussels can't iron fist them into compliance but they also have the ability to travel throughout the EU like EU citizens.

FWIW, I read somewhere that Biden's election has effectively killed Brexit; something to do with the Good Friday Accords and the Ireland/Northern Ireland border. Hope I'm wrong, for the sake of the UK.

 

[Dr Iron Arc]

Nostalgia's a hell of a drug.

 

[esse_est_percipi]

Biden's election has effectively killed Brexit; something to do with the Good Friday Accords and the Ireland/Northern Ireland border

Possibly.
The conservative party had 4 years to strike a trade deal with the US, but never did so, and now with a Biden administration it looks even less likely, as Biden is a globalist and identifies as of Irish origin, so not sympathetic to UK interests.
Without a comprehensive US-UK trade deal, the UK will be out on its own.

To be honest, with the new Covid World Order, Brexit is marginal issue now, at best. The current UK government is proving to be authoritarian, irrational and mildly tyrannical. But what's new.

What does it matter wether they are ruled by career politians and elite interest groups in brussels or in london?

Well, it's one more layer of bureaucracy, one more level of disconnect of ordinary citizens from the political and economic decision making which governs their lives.

But ultimately, it really doesn't make that much of a difference. One way or another, the world will become more and more uniform and integrated, with all the most important decisions delegated to international bodies and organizations.

 

[TotallyIsolated]

Brexit is a disaster. It will probably be ongoing for at least another 20 years, and will probably result in Britain rejoining the EU.

It will cost billions just to rewrite all the laws we got from the EU, not to mention the increased cost of trading with our closest neighbours, and loss of bargaining power we'll suffer in international relations. It is categorically, unambiguously a TERRIBLE idea and will go down in history as the biggest mistake in British political history.

Frankly I'm done with Britain. This shitty little island can burn for all I care. I would consider emigrating, but like most of my fellow Brits my language skills are poor! Plus I'm too depressed to go through moving to another country on my own.

IMO Angela Merkel was right when she said that Britain needs to leave to see just how bad it will actually be. Hopefully a dose of harsh reality will wake us up!

 

[greebo6]

I couldn't make my mind up in 2016 and I still can't now. I suspect many other people here in U.K feel the same.

 

[Mistry420]

Lol I'm like scrolling through threads crying tryna find ways to die right now and I see "what are your thoughts on brexit" :') made me chuckle aha

 

[Misfit72]

I couldn't make my mind up in 2016 and I still can't now. I suspect many other people here in U.K feel the same.

Nor could I - my heart said leave but my head said remain, and I ended up voting for both, meaning that my ballot paper was spoilt. But even if I had voted remain, the result would have been the same. I came close enough to suicide nine months earlier for the police to get involved, and not long before the vote, I spoke to the Samaritans, as well as looking for a tree to hang myself from. I even looked at going to Ireland and jumping off the Cliffs of Moher.

 

[greebo6]

Nor could I - my heart said leave but my head said remain, and I ended up voting for both, meaning that my ballot paper was spoilt. But even if I had voted remain, the result would have been the same. I came close enough to suicide nine months earlier for the police to get involved, and not long before the vote, I spoke to the Samaritans, as well as looking for a tree to hang myself from. I even looked at going to Ireland and jumping off the Cliffs of Moher.

I'm sorry your struggling and its got so bad for you too.

 

[Misfit72]

I'm sorry your struggling and its got so bad for you too.

At least five years ago, it felt like I was the only one under a dark cloud. Now it feels like everyone in the country is, and that was before this bloody COVID. Leaving aside the political and economic uncertainty, it feels like I'm constantly have to explain and justify myself to other people, even though I'm no less appreciative of other European countries, their cultures and their languages than I was before.

Ironically, earlier in the year I got pains in my stomach, called for an ambulance and got taken to hospital, where I was told I had pancreatitis and had to have an operation to remove my gallbladder. While I was in physical pain, at least that was something that could be treated, which it was, successfully, thanks to the NHS, whereas with mental health, I haven't been treated with the respect I expect, which isn't that much.

Obviously I don't want to suggest that people who are physically ill, and terminally ill, are better off or have it easy, but if I were terminally ill, I'd try to spend as much time with family and friends as possible, even though there's nothing much in the way of a bucket list for me.

 

[greebo6]

Often a visual reaction triggers the empathy and understanding switch within people who are 'normal' ,'well' , 'happy' etc.. They see someone with broken bones in plaster or bandages where someone is cut that triggers the switch. You see -You react.
Physical illness is something easy to understand and relate to.
But mental health is within ,there are no bandages , its not obvious ,its mysterious and its complicated. It can scare people.
So the urge is to avoid ,run away and hide rather than approach and help.
This often doesn't help in encouraging respect.
And of course there are always those who think mental illness is nothing and people should simply 'pull themselves together' and get on with it.
This is the most disrespectful thing.
Sadly it happens.

I don't have a bucket list.

 

[NumbItAll]

This is still going on? What a shit show, lol.

 

[Sherri]

The UK made a big mistake, they're trying to be the new Switzerland,but no one will invest there as taxes are so high. I wanna see who will do the dirty work for them now, Immigration from the EU was the win factor, but Britts are also immigrants in many places including mine.

 

[Deleted member 1465]

Brexit: omnishambles.

 

[KuriGohan&Kamehameha]

Brexit makes no sense from a financial standpoint, I have already been seeing news reports that we may be expecting food shortages of certain items in January because the lorries will have difficulty crossing borders under the new rules.

Joe Biden isn't going to agree to some game changing US-UK trade deal either because he has Irish Catholic ancestry and a vetted interest in Ireland. It seems like we will end up with a no deal Brexit when it comes to the EU as well, which will cripple imports and exports.

Funny how people complained about immigrants and how EU migrants were the cause of job loss/overpopulation in the UK, motivating them to vote leave. If they care about overpopulation so much, why don't they tell the NHS to stop funding IVF and fertility treatments, spending millions of pounds on repeated fertility treatments when a lot of these efforts are futile, and tell people to adopt or foster one of the thousands of children stuck in the system? Instead, they want to punish immigrants, many of whom are the only ones willing to do the hard, dirty jobs that British natives don't want to partake in.

 

[Deleted member 1465]

So, people are ordering stuff off Amazon in the UK from Europe, then they are surprised when they get stung for over £100 in customs & Excise duty now that Brexit is done. LOL WTF did you expect? Did you really think what would happen was what you were told?

 

[Makko]

It was a nice gig for the benefit of very few at the expense of very many.

 

[Amumu]

I used to be pro-EU but now I'm more balanced. It was a democratic choice which showed the British were willing to foster their sovereignty.

 

[TotallyIsolated]

I used to be pro-EU but now I'm more balanced. It was a democratic choice which showed the British were willing to foster their sovereignty.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA sovereignty - good one