Ways to reduce survival instinct

[catdaddy2601]

Any ideas on how to reduce survival instinct? Imagine being such a failure at everything that I even fail at suicide each time

 

[soggyweeetabix]

Survival Instinct won't go away, just like fear of dying (obviously the two are vastly different things). You have to overcome that - when I ctb I'll be in a completely unique mindset. Every past attempt, negative thought (s) and fear will be removed. I'll go with the encumbered thought of reaching my destination with no concept of when I'll get there.

 

[FuneralCry]

Of course it is difficult to ctb as we are programmed to survive. I think if I knew an answer I would already be gone. I do believe in my case, I will eventually reach a point of desperation where I cannot take anymore and then I think I will finally be able to leave this world. I hope you find the peace you are looking for.

 

[Incognito?]

Der Überlebensinstinkt ist wirklich sehr stark, das hat mich verwundert, als ich es selbst versucht habe. Selbst wenn der Geist, die Seele absolut nicht mehr will, stellt sich der Körper entgegen. Man sagt, manche Menschen sterben an gebrochenem Herzen; es gibt auch Fälle, bei denen ein Partner dem kürzlich verstorbenen Partner nachstirbt, einfach so, ganz ohne Suizid zu begehen. If man doch nur einfach aufhören könnte zu atmen oder seinem Herzen gut zusprechen könnte, dass es aufhörte zu schlagen.

 

[eternalmelancholy]

Survival Instinct won't go away, just like fear of dying (obviously the two are vastly different things). You have to overcome that - when I ctb I'll be in a completely unique mindset. Every past attempt, negative thought (s) and fear will be removed. I'll go with the encumbered thought of reaching my destination with no concept of when I'll get there.

I love this post. I think this is what I am missing. The final piece of the puzzle is accepting your fate and letting go. I am still holding onto bitter resentment and I think this is why I am finding it hard to overcome SI.

Each failed attempt and passing year makes me feel like I am that much closer to actually ctb'ing. But I am not so sure anymore if I can actually do this. The more times I fail the more doubt keeps creeping in.

 

[Incognito?]

Das Problem dabei ist für mich aber, dass man nicht zu vielen Versuchschancen hat, wenn man nicht in der geschlossenen Psychiatrie landen möchte. Worauf ich so gar keine Lust habe.

 

[Ch92921]

SI cant be reduced. It only can overcome by medical or psychological issues.

 

[Hateyouprolife]

Maybe if you trick yourself into thinking that this is only a test run or something good happens after death.

 

[Ch92921]

Maybe if you trick yourself into thinking that this is only a test run or something good happens after death.

Yeah

 

[Gustav Hartmann]

My survival instinct becomes the stronger the closer the time of my planned death comes. I think this is good, otherwise we could not live without fear of death, because we know, that we will die anyhow in a relatively near future. We are very good in suppressing. On the other hand, survival instinct is only helpful, if we have a chance to survive. When death is inevitable the fear of death seems to be mitigated. When I accompanied my parent´s dying, I felt that they wanted to go. They were very old, maybe survival instinct becomes weaker when we age.

Bringing yourself in a situation were your death is inevitable might help, but I don´t know how to manage it. Getting old would be the alternative.

 

[Butterflyfree]

The final piece of the puzzle, accepting your fate and letting go. (exactly this)

I love this post. I think this is what I am missing. The final piece of the puzzle is accepting your fate and letting go. I am still holding onto bitter resentment and I think this is why I am finding it hard to overcome SI.

Each failed attempt and passing year makes me feel like I am that much closer to actually ctb'ing. But I am not so sure anymore if I can actually do this. The more times I fail the more doubt keeps creeping in

 

[stellabelle]

Any ideas on how to reduce survival instinct? Imagine being such a failure at everything that I even fail at suicide each time

(Gentle smile and soft laugh)
I can definitely relate to that.

 

[Freedom Believer]

From my experience, survival instinct is weakest when you don't plan on CTB and something happens that's so bad that you want to CTB. The only thing that's needed is to have whatever you need to CTB with you when the time comes.

 

[_elliott]

from my experience : the times i have attempted, even ones i have failed, once i take the steps and am there, knowing i'll be at peace fights the urge to panic. realize you aren't a selfish person and are just seeking peace, accept that death isn't scary, he's your friend, in the weirdest steps of the word. think about it like this : if anything, with all the pain living causes, shouldn't you be more scared of that? whether you believe in hell, heaven, an afterlife--shouldn't you be more afraid of those things rather than actually dying? i think our fear of survival is going to a place we don't know--But if you create a belief, like mine is that there will be nothing, and i will not see or hear or feel anything anymore, it removes such a big element. i'm fine with being nothing. it means you feel nothing. aren't you?

 

[Sunset Limited]

When I don't sleep for a long time. I didn't sleep for 36 hours once. At that moment everything seemed so easy that I was surprised. I could do CTB with a smile. I'm thinking of using this.

 

[Gustav Hartmann]

Good

When I don't sleep for a long time. I didn't sleep for 36 hours once. At that moment everything seemed so easy that I was surprised. I could do CTB with a smile. I'm thinking of using this.

Good point, Greenland has the highest suicide rate in the world and it is highest during permanent daylight.

 

[Chockles]

I've already lost most things I enjoy bed ridden a year.
This week I'm deleting all memories on social media. FB, Ebay, PayPal, emails all closed. The less I have to cling onto the easier it will be to go through with CTB tomorrow I believe. I've got all my affairs in order for my family. Later today I leave SS. Then there's literally nothing to hang around for.

 

[Unicron]

I have more survival fear than survival instinct. It's the fear of failing or upsetting people around me that keeps me here. I'd be long gone if left to my own devices.

If you've got SI, you're probably not ready and should abort. When the time is right you'll know and you won't have it.

 

[Gray Wounds]

Way back in 2018, someone here advised me to get alcohol in my system first, since my method involved a lot of pain. I didn't listen to him and I ended up waking an hour after. Lucky, I didn't need to be admitted because the room temperature got too cold that the blood dried up around my wrist. I'll get it right this time, though.

 

[Ch92921]

Der Überlebensinstinkt ist wirklich sehr stark, das hat mich verwundert, als ich es selbst versucht habe. Selbst wenn der Geist, die Seele absolut nicht mehr will, stellt sich der Körper entgegen. Man sagt, manche Menschen sterben an gebrochenem Herzen; es gibt auch Fälle, bei denen ein Partner dem kürzlich verstorbenen Partner nachstirbt, einfach so, ganz ohne Suizid zu begehen. If man doch nur einfach aufhören könnte zu atmen oder seinem Herzen gut zusprechen könnte, dass es aufhörte zu schlagen.

Oder wegen Mobbing, oder aus Panik, oder wegen psychischen Druck.

I have more survival fear than survival instinct. It's the fear of failing or upsetting people around me that keeps me here. I'd be long gone if left to my own devices.

If you've got SI, you're probably not ready and should abort. When the time is right you'll know and you won't have it.

True

 

[Death is beautiful]

I've already lost most things I enjoy bed ridden a year.
This week I'm deleting all memories on social media. FB, Ebay, PayPal, emails all closed. The less I have to cling onto the easier it will be to go through with CTB tomorrow I believe. I've got all my affairs in order for my family. Later today I leave SS. Then there's literally nothing to hang around for.

have you already received your N?