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cohomology

cohomology

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Oct 5, 2024
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I have decided to kill myself.
The world is simply too cruel and pointless. I feel like by staying alive I am endorsing this world or being complacent with all the cruelty that is going on every day. There are people and sentient beings more generally right now all over the world who are experiencing extreme pain and suffering, a lot of it solely for the sadistic enjoyment of others.
I've experienced repeated loss of freedom and humiliation myself despite not doing anything wrong, although this doesn't even come close to the pain that some other people experience.
I know for a fact that there is no god, no afterlife or anything supernatural. My consciousness and mind are biological phenomena located in the brain. My brain keeps lying to me by inventing various fictions like the continuous self or the ideal rational argument. Were it not for the memories connecting me to my past self (themselves largely illusory and disconnected), I would probably not recognize the person as I was a child, nor the other way around.
It distresses me that almost everything people say about life or the world in general that used to make me feel good or filled me with purpose has turned out to be largely a fiction or an explicit lie. I do not see the point in continuing my existence. When I think of myself objectively from a wider view, I cannot help but imagine a dog chasing its own tail, consumed by its own self importance and blinded by the futility of what's actually going on.
I also recognize that my realizations and suicidality are simply memes that the self has been exposed to. Despite my own belief in my reasons I have for my actions and beliefs, it's ultimately a biological, subrational phenomenon. Sometimes I wonder what would it feel like were a different self to have developed in my body, with different beliefs and experiences, or no self at all, purely instinctual behavior. Still, my experience of the world is filtered by the self that currently resides in my body and I cannot help the fact.
I also think a lot about whether significant brain damage is scary (for example after a failed ctb attempt). An argument could be made that after such a significant change in the brain the self (which ultimately derives from the brain) could be so transformed as to obviously not be the same as the pre-damaged self. As such, it would be a different person living with a brain damage, not me.
Even so, a new person would be created with a most likely poor and miserable experience. By the basic antinatalist arguments, it would ultimately be an evil and an immoral thing, either against myself or a new person.
I resent the fact that the act is likely to bring a lot of pain to my relatives. It's hard to me to know what they will experience, because I personally would not be sad about them leaving, even though I love them very much. I would support whatever choices they made. I really hope the same kind of charity and understanding will be extended to me as well, as not to create much additional suffering in the world after my death. Hopefully a well written note will be helpful for that purpose.
I prefer not to have been born but that is not an option. Unfortunately the only way to leave on my own accord is a highly stigmatized and often traumatic act. I will try to minimize the impact as much as I'm able to but ultimately it's my choice. And I have made my decision.
 
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wayn

wayn

orange cats are so cute
Oct 3, 2024
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Hey man, I kinda understand you, sometimes I feel the same way, I have unstable sense of self, and when my manic episode is over and feeling empty, then I usally think in a way similiar like that. As I can see you didn't get much comments which I expected, because most people driven by their emotions and the truth might hurt their feelings, also I'm not sure about that people with average intelligence understand things in a way like that. So yeah, but my emotions goes and come very fast, and I kinda enjoying them so I'm not sure if I wanna leave this planet soon, but who knows..

Also I don't know you obviously, but you seems like very detached from your emotions, which is the main problem I think, so maybe try some mood boosters, or get an advice from a psychiater. I wish you well.
 
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killorbekilled

killorbekilled

manhwa reader, mentally unwell
Oct 3, 2024
65
I hope you find what you are looking for after death! Wish you peace.
 
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EgoBrained

EgoBrained

One day your suffering will end
Sep 25, 2024
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I do agree that in the case of severe brain damage as a result of a failed attempt, the old you would cease to exist and be reborn anew, with that person condemned to face the consequences of the actions that were committed in their previous life.
If that were to happen, I don't think that the old you would be the one responsible for their suffering, instead, the blame would lie within the people that made reliable methods unattainable, denying you from finding peace.
 
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wayn

wayn

orange cats are so cute
Oct 3, 2024
63
I hope you doing well
 
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cohomology

cohomology

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Oct 5, 2024
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I hope you doing well
Thanks for caring. I still feel the same way I did when I made the original post.
I initially thought about using N2 but acquiring the gas has proved more difficult than I thought given that I don't have a driver's license. After reading up more on hanging, I think I'm going to go with it as the simpler option. The rope should arrive tomorrow and hopefully I will be gone sometime this week.
I do agree that in the case of severe brain damage as a result of a failed attempt, the old you would cease to exist and be reborn anew, with that person condemned to face the consequences of the actions that were committed in their previous life.
If that were to happen, I don't think that the old you would be the one responsible for their suffering, instead, the blame would lie within the people that made reliable methods unattainable, denying you from finding peace.
You have a point.
Hey man, I kinda understand you, sometimes I feel the same way, I have unstable sense of self, and when my manic episode is over and feeling empty, then I usally think in a way similiar like that. As I can see you didn't get much comments which I expected, because most people driven by their emotions and the truth might hurt their feelings, also I'm not sure about that people with average intelligence understand things in a way like that. So yeah, but my emotions goes and come very fast, and I kinda enjoying them so I'm not sure if I wanna leave this planet soon, but who knows..

Also I don't know you obviously, but you seems like very detached from your emotions, which is the main problem I think, so maybe try some mood boosters, or get an advice from a psychiater. I wish you well.
Thanks for the kind words. I do not have manic episodes and I don't think I have an unstable sense of self. I've always had a hard time understanding what other people mean when they say they don't know who they are. That said, I am interested in deconstructing the concept of self.
I do agree that most people are driven by emotions. I think that I'm driven a lot by emotions as well, it's just sometimes harder to recognize the emotions that are driving people.
 
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CTB Dream

CTB Dream

Injury damage disabl hard talk no argu make fun et
Sep 17, 2022
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V sry life all nonsns cncpt all psin sffr , ya me injury damage me no me
 
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cohomology

cohomology

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Oct 5, 2024
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More venting.
In scientific culture people are wary when someone says how long it took them to come up with their theory or a proof as a point of pride. It's a huge red flag that there's probably nothing there, and the person is likely to be delusional and incompetent. I don't think any value is attached to how long it took someone to come up with a theory. It should stand on its own merits. A related principle is seen is economics. Things are not worth more money because the producer spent more time on it. The time and effort spent in producing the thing are attempted to be minimized. Yet in daily life the attitude seems a bit different. People love talking about how much they enjoy a challenge, and regularly talk about how long it took them to achieve something. Personally if something took me a lot of effort or time I do not feel proud of it but rather find it embarrassing. Someone else can do the same thing much faster and better than me, why did I waste my time? I could have spent something that is much easier and which I'm better at doing.
It's especially bothersome when it's other people who try to impose their own challenges onto you without your consent, like being conscripted to the military. And when I fail those challenges, I am judged by society as a failure of a man, when I never consented to any of it.
I'm bothered by the constant expectation to act a certain way. If I simply try to lay down and do nothing, eventually people will come to me and use force to make me do things I do not want to do. If I express my opinion about life to someone in real life, people will come and lock me up in a mental hospital. They won't just use force but will say cruel things and demean me because I do not conform to their worldview. I don't like that people feel the right to use force to modify my behavior. I'm worried that if a war breaks out, I'll be forced again to do things I do not want to do, except this time even more cruel.
I'm bothered by the constant expectation to act a certain way. If I simply try to lay down and do nothing, eventually people will come to me and use force to make me do things I do not want to do. If I express my opinion about life to someone in real life, people will come and lock me up in a mental hospital. They won't just use force but will say cruel things and demean me because I do not conform to their worldview. I don't like that people feel the right to use force to modify my behavior. I'm worried that if a war breaks out, I'll be forced again to do things I do not want to do, except this time even more cruel.
I wish solipsism was true. I wish this was all in my mind and the world disappeared after I go. I wouldn't have to worry about how my relatives will react to my death, no pain over writing a note. I would just go and hang myself right now. However, I believe that when I disappear, other people will have do deal with my death. That causes me a lot of worry.
 
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cohomology

cohomology

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Oct 5, 2024
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I really wish I didn't have a family or anyone who cares about me. I hate the idea that people will suffer if I die. I don't want to cause anyone pain. There is already enough pain in the world. If only there was a way to make people stop caring about me or forget me.
I watched a lot of interview of people who lost their loved ones to suicide, expecting to take away something that could make it better. Unfortunately it seemed like the close ones are devastated no matter what you do. Even if the death is not by suicide, they are devastated.
I didn't ask for any of it. I did not ask to be born and I did not ask for people to create bonds with me. It was all imposed on me and I feel trapped because of them. I just want to leave this world peacefully.
It's been a month since my first post and even more time since I started to want to leave. I gave myself a lot of time to reconsider, to possibly change my mind. On none of the days did I change my mind.
I don't know why I wait. I don't see any possible way anything could change. Yet maybe deep down I wish they would change somehow.
In a lot of ways I already feel like I should be dead. Like I'm living on borrowed time. When I talk to people I feel like a fake person pretending to be someone else, a person who shouldn't be there. It's really an unpleasant feeling.
 
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