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transLucyd

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Nov 5, 2024
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Hello everyone. It has been pointed out already that the results of the election are affecting many people in the US and beyond, specially trans people (like me) and other minorities
I felt extremly bad about it too, and along many other things in my head made me consider CTB way more seriously.
However I urge you to stop and consider some things. I don't want to argue over politics here and I don't really want to keep making replies to this post. Just want to share a couple of ideas that will hopefully help us understand and make better decisions about this.

0: some people here didn't seem to grasp the consequences of a Trump's second term. I really won't try to argue how it will be very bad for almost everyone in the US and abroad. But just so everyone gets this: Trump's more fervent supports are incredible transphobic and support policies that harm the trans community and other minorities. Lack of laws and a atmosphere of hate/fear is an extremly important factor in mental health problems for marginalized communities, like ours. So this is serious.
1: I think most people were expecting him to lose. Even if it was close. So right off the bat, we got our expectations completly twisted upside down. This radical change of perspective about the future is capable setting us in a state of panic. Also the lack of understanding of how this played out made me and many people become very uneasy, because we always want to make sense of things around us, speacially when it's this big in scale.

2: Now, our first instinct was to think that the country became much more alligned with his ideas and that of his base. However we should note that he actually lost (some) votes compared to the last election, and what happened is that democrats had less votes in total. So it is not so much that the country swung more right per se, but it lacked more oposition from the left. This doe make a difference in the great scheme of things because it doesn't mean that more people are against us or ''trying to get us'' in an active way*. I know that when we see those MAGA crowds out there it looks crazy and scary, but seriously watch some interview of randon people who voted for him...these people just look clueless to say the least.
If you want to understand more about what happened I recommend you check out Adam Something's community notes on youtube. I think his opinion makes sense and helped me calm down about the states of things in politics and society at large.

3: Sure, you might say. But that does not invalidate the fact that this is a big negative development for us. True. I'm not trying to fool any one here, this is bad news for our community. And I freaked out about this too. I live in Brazil, so I know what is being afraid of my future as a trans person, even though I kinda have some support to keep my life. But I know that many trans women and men in the US live in poverty, some are homeless, jobless, live with an abusive family. So it's no wonder the hotlines for LGBT people skyrocted these days.

4*: Now, if you look on social media and stuff, there are indeed some transphobes rejoicing and trying to scare us, and purposefully make us lose hope and our peace of mind. Do not give in to this kind of rhetoric. As I said, thing will be tough, but in the same way that we should not fantasize about things going too well for us, we should not fantasize about a total and imment dimise of us all. I think there is much that can happen in the following months and years: blue states and some swing states can offer us more protections, I think that he might lose support as some of his most radical policies are enacted, there maybe many twists of events that will actually makes things better, politics is very unpredictable. I don't want anyone thinking that during day one of his presidency we are all gona die or something; even the worse policies and their creators need a lot of work and time to be enacted. Who know what will happen in the meantime. And I know Vance would take his place, he is very old...so, you know, he might be gone soon, and that's cool.

5: There are things you can do to try to improve your situation. I reached out to my friends and said I was anxious, I talked to them and felt better, so try to do that too. If you do not have friends for that, and even if you do, try to reach for communities that try to help trans folks. Since I'm not from the US, my knowledge about this is limited but I think that this exist and I'm guessing more people are noticing this trend, we have time to organize and prepare for the worse. Also, I know that it might not be possible for most people here, but if you live in a deep red state, try to leave for a blue one; as I said, I don't think we are doomed, but we should try to get to safety, and this include not being surrended by the most radical people.

So in the end. I'm not here to tell you what to do. But I am so worried about other trans person in the US right now. We allready have one of the highest suicide rates of any segment in society. We should try to calm ourselves and not fall for their trap. We can survive this. We are a community and can do great things :) I LOVE YOU ALL BEAUTIFUL TRANS PEOPLE
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Nov 4, 2023
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Just to make a correction on your 2nd point, if you look historically at the number of votes won, democrats average 65 million. No one knows where the 15 extra million votes Biden received 4 years ago came from. Even Obama did not get that many votes. In addition you need to look at the points. Not only did Trump turn a county that has voted democrat blue for the last 135 year red, he won more points in historic blue strongholds like New York, Vermont, etc. this happened all over the country. Not only that California voted out not only the Da, but made certain crimes punishable again. There has not been a win like this since Ronald Reagan.

Having said all that there is no need to panic. The country is still split basically down the middle, it's just the people are rejecting extremism on both sides. It's time to return to more common sense and whether that will be accomplished is yet to be seen.
 
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FinalDawn

FinalDawn

Inherently Inferior
May 5, 2024
28
I don't really have the ability to leave the deep red state I live in-- One which has passed numerous anti-trans laws already which are extreme even for US standards. I'm not really in the right place financially to leave. I don't think things will ever get better, at least not for another 30-40 years, especially where I live.

Luckily I am fortunate enough to pass as a girl, but I'm afraid I'll lose access to HRT and that will change. So I think I'm just gonna do what the majority of people in the US clearly want me to do, which is get rid of myself (the other option is detransition-- I would literally rather gouge my eyes out and eat them)

That being said, I'm glad you're able to still feel okay about it, I guess.
 
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Luckily I am fortunate enough to pass as a girl, but I'm afraid I'll lose access to HRT and that will change. So I think I'm just gonna do what the majority of people in the US clearly want me to do, which is get rid of myself (the other option is detransition-- I would literally rather gouge my eyes out and eat them)
So that is what i wa trying to make people consider, i dont think most people want this. I think they made a bad decision that involves giving power to some people who do and some who don't care much about us. Some changes that come with HRT are permanent. Maybe it wont be so drasctic that you won't be able to pass.
I do advice people to keep a low profile for now though.
I'm sorry you might lose your acess to HRT. I hope you'll find some way to makes things work out. This is going to be hard for everyone, but I really hold our community dearly in my heart and hope we can go on even in difficult times <3 <3 <3
 
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Oct 19, 2024
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I recommend you check out Adam Something's community notes on youtube
YES, I love Adam something. Totally worth checking out. It's hard to explain, but he has this fantastic, passively angry german commentary, while he at the same time drafts logical and factual arguments. Tbh you just have to see it for yourself, because it's hard putting it into words. Even if I don't agree with ALL his viewpoints, he presents himself in a way that I'm still willing to hear him out, and he's one of those who just want the world to be a slightly better place.

Also, the solution to everything is trains.
 
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Daymondog

Daymondog

Born to jest, forced to joust.
Oct 10, 2023
18
I'm not american, but i feel terrified for the people there. If there will be indeed anti-lgbt/trans bills this year, i'm afraid that might end up happening on my country too (with so many lgbtphobic USA bootlickers)
 
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I won't be on as much as usual. Less alone time
Oct 21, 2024
416
Anyone that wants to leave this shithole instead of sitting around and waiting to die can check out equaldex. It lists the safest countries in the world for LGBT+ people, and can offer advice about refugee status in those places
Hello everyone. It has been pointed out already that the results of the election are affecting many people in the US and beyond, specially trans people (like me) and other minorities
I felt extremly bad about it too, and along many other things in my head made me consider CTB way more seriously.
However I urge you to stop and consider some things. I don't want to argue over politics here and I don't really want to keep making replies to this post. Just want to share a couple of ideas that will hopefully help us understand and make better decisions about this.

0: some people here didn't seem to grasp the consequences of a Trump's second term. I really won't try to argue how it will be very bad for almost everyone in the US and abroad. But just so everyone gets this: Trump's more fervent supports are incredible transphobic and support policies that harm the trans community and other minorities. Lack of laws and a atmosphere of hate/fear is an extremly important factor in mental health problems for marginalized communities, like ours. So this is serious.
1: I think most people were expecting him to lose. Even if it was close. So right off the bat, we got our expectations completly twisted upside down. This radical change of perspective about the future is capable setting us in a state of panic. Also the lack of understanding of how this played out made me and many people become very uneasy, because we always want to make sense of things around us, speacially when it's this big in scale.

2: Now, our first instinct was to think that the country became much more alligned with his ideas and that of his base. However we should note that he actually lost (some) votes compared to the last election, and what happened is that democrats had less votes in total. So it is not so much that the country swung more right per se, but it lacked more oposition from the left. This doe make a difference in the great scheme of things because it doesn't mean that more people are against us or ''trying to get us'' in an active way*. I know that when we see those MAGA crowds out there it looks crazy and scary, but seriously watch some interview of randon people who voted for him...these people just look clueless to say the least.
If you want to understand more about what happened I recommend you check out Adam Something's community notes on youtube. I think his opinion makes sense and helped me calm down about the states of things in politics and society at large.

3: Sure, you might say. But that does not invalidate the fact that this is a big negative development for us. True. I'm not trying to fool any one here, this is bad news for our community. And I freaked out about this too. I live in Brazil, so I know what is being afraid of my future as a trans person, even though I kinda have some support to keep my life. But I know that many trans women and men in the US live in poverty, some are homeless, jobless, live with an abusive family. So it's no wonder the hotlines for LGBT people skyrocted these days.

4*: Now, if you look on social media and stuff, there are indeed some transphobes rejoicing and trying to scare us, and purposefully make us lose hope and our peace of mind. Do not give in to this kind of rhetoric. As I said, thing will be tough, but in the same way that we should not fantasize about things going too well for us, we should not fantasize about a total and imment dimise of us all. I think there is much that can happen in the following months and years: blue states and some swing states can offer us more protections, I think that he might lose support as some of his most radical policies are enacted, there maybe many twists of events that will actually makes things better, politics is very unpredictable. I don't want anyone thinking that during day one of his presidency we are all gona die or something; even the worse policies and their creators need a lot of work and time to be enacted. Who know what will happen in the meantime. And I know Vance would take his place, he is very old...so, you know, he might be gone soon, and that's cool.

5: There are things you can do to try to improve your situation. I reached out to my friends and said I was anxious, I talked to them and felt better, so try to do that too. If you do not have friends for that, and even if you do, try to reach for communities that try to help trans folks. Since I'm not from the US, my knowledge about this is limited but I think that this exist and I'm guessing more people are noticing this trend, we have time to organize and prepare for the worse. Also, I know that it might not be possible for most people here, but if you live in a deep red state, try to leave for a blue one; as I said, I don't think we are doomed, but we should try to get to safety, and this include not being surrended by the most radical people.

So in the end. I'm not here to tell you what to do. But I am so worried about other trans person in the US right now. We allready have one of the highest suicide rates of any segment in society. We should try to calm ourselves and not fall for their trap. We can survive this. We are a community and can do great things :) I LOVE YOU ALL BEAUTIFUL TRANS PEOPLE
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He didn't lose support when he admitted to sexually assaulting children so thinking he's gonna lose any cultists over the shit they literally voted for is VERY far fetched
 
Ijustcantanymore

Ijustcantanymore

Student
Nov 22, 2024
113
These kinds of "people". And yes. I use people loosely when referring to fascists or bigots because they hardly qualify as humans anymore. But they always fail. They succeed for a bit but are eventually done away with.

Eventually, though we here now may not live to see it, they will fall and a future generation will get rid of them. I try to take comfort in that.

These creatures don't ever get their happy ending.
 
Gustav Hartmann

Gustav Hartmann

Enlightened
Aug 28, 2021
1,063
LBTQ people think they are the hub of the world. They should be as quiet as the BDSM community which is probably larger.
 
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Dot

Info abt typng styl on prfle.
Sep 26, 2021
3,313
LBTQ people think they are the hub of the world. They should be as quiet as the BDSM community which is probably larger.

Yh bcse = nt as tho thy r stond t/ deth in sme cntries or tht gy-bashng ws nt an actul thng or tht thy hd 2 fght v hrd fr rghts 2 publcly xist & mrry etc

& nw ppl wn2 tke mre of thr rghts awy & also normlse outwrdly abusng thm s/ persnlly am nt surprsed tht th/ cmmunty kps thmslves vocl

Also ths thred ws mde fr trns membrs t/ reassre ech-othr whch u hve dcided t/ insert ursfl in2
 
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