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Tired of people saying there is hope
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There is not hope for everyone! I had a bad life before and completely ruined the rest of it these past 2 years. My family wants me to stay and struggle but I know the rest of my life will be hell.
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artificial_ineptness, WhatDoesTheFoxSay?, KuriGohan&Kamehameha and 18 others
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Well obviously your family will want you to stick around, even if your quality of life is terrible. Ultimately it is up to you to decide. Living for others is a terrible existence.
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Many people are delusional, they live in denial of the fact that things can get that hopeless that someone would consider ctb. Sometimes there is nothing you can do to improve a situation and that is the reality of this life. Of course people who have not suffered in similar ways would be unable to comprehend what it is like. For me there is only hope in death. It is selfish for others to expect you to suffer for decades, after all, it is your life, your decision and nobody else has any say in it. I wish you the best, I hope you find peace.
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Hope. It is the quintessential human delusion, simultaneously the source of your greatest strength, and greatest weakness.
Mother Nature doesn't care what we believe. Nor do the laws of physics or the inevitability of biology and time.
our magical thinking allows us to believe in what we want to escape from reality, and not what is actually true
we live in fantasy.
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Pandora brought the box of ills and opened it. It was the gift of the gods to men, outwardly a beautiful and seductive gift, and called the Casket of Happiness. Out of it flew all the evils, living winged creatures, thence they now circulate and do men injury day and night. One single evil had not yet escaped from the box, and by the will of Zeus Pandora closed the lid and it remained within. Now for ever man has the casket of happiness in his house and thinks he holds a great treasure; it is at his disposal, he stretches out his hand for it whenever he desires; for he does not know the box which Pandora brought was the casket of evil, and he believes the ill which remains within to be the greatest blessing,āit is hope. Zeus did not wish man, however much he might be tormented by the other evils, to fling away his life, but to go on letting himself be tormented again and again. Therefore he gives Man hope,āin reality it is the worst of all evils, because it prolongs the torments of Man.
ā Friedrich Nietzsche, Human, All Too Human (1878)
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Pandora brought the box of ills and opened it. It was the gift of the gods to men, outwardly a beautiful and seductive gift, and called the Casket of Happiness. Out of it flew all the evils, living winged creatures, thence they now circulate and do men injury day and night. One single evil had not yet escaped from the box, and by the will of Zeus Pandora closed the lid and it remained within. Now for ever man has the casket of happiness in his house and thinks he holds a great treasure; it is at his disposal, he stretches out his hand for it whenever he desires; for he does not know the box which Pandora brought was the casket of evil, and he believes the ill which remains within to be the greatest blessing,āit is hope. Zeus did not wish man, however much he might be tormented by the other evils, to fling away his life, but to go on letting himself be tormented again and again. Therefore he gives Man hope,āin reality it is the worst of all evils, because it prolongs the torments of Man.
ā Friedrich Nietzsche, Human, All Too Human (1878)
Hope prolongs suffering, denies reality, and leads to procrastination. If your life keeps getting shittier and shittier even if you tried everything to improve it, chances are your life will never get better. As for me, the issue is I'm stuck living under one roof with people I don't like who also don't like me so the feeling is mutual. I'm convinced the only way for me to escape is either suicide or to become homeless and live in the wilderness far away from society. If I manage to do the former, great. If the latter, then dying from starvation or dehydration are not an issue for me compared to people bothering me and not leaving me the fuck alone.
There is not hope for everyone! I had a bad life before and completely ruined the rest of it these past 2 years. My family wants me to stay and struggle but I know the rest of my life will be hell.
From my point of view there is always hope. I think generally there is a chance something in life will improve, the question is if and when. There is a possibility it may not improve or before it improves you may have to endure a lot of suffering. Therefore, is it worth it? I don't think it is worth living for others and in my own experience 1 down day does not make up for 1000 good days. Your family will want you to stay, they probably love and care for you, they dont see things the way you do, but you need to ask yourself is it worth it?
When people tell me things will get better/there is hope, etc I ask them for evidence to back up that claim. Don't usually hear another peep after that, unless someone is purporting law of attraction nonsense.
I believe there is hope if I want to embrace it. But would require a tremendous amount of work to manifest. And I'm exhausted and I'm Jaded. So fuck it.
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